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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 10:39 PM
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Colin Powell
An utter disgrace.




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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 10:43 PM
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1. Ya know shred, I was thinking about this the other day...the gall.
The nerve, the freaking nerve of these people.
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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 10:55 PM
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5. And his BS "pottery barn" "warning"...
Oh the scenario was true.
Problem is that it was Powell who held the damn door open with all the rest of the PNAC criminals.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 10:46 PM
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2. You know what Harry Belafonte said about the Blacks
in W's administration.

I hope at least Colin Powell will eventually tell the truth about the W administration.
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clmbohdem Donating Member (296 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 10:54 PM
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4. Me too.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 10:48 PM
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3. Yes. Good God, yes. We thought he was honorable, didn't we?
Fooled us, didn't he? And now trying to weasel out of his perfidy.

Respect? I wouldn't piss on him if he was on fire.

Redstone
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 11:11 PM
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7. do not ever forget that he was instrumental in the attempted
cover-up of MyLai. He has NEVER been honourable.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 11:30 PM
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9. Keep repeating that until people understand it. It's important.
Redstone
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windbreeze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 12:37 AM
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12. He was the officer charged with investigating the incident..
but he formed an opinion without so much as interviewing the soldier who originally filed the report...instead Powell told his CO, that there was no basis for the charge...
Colin Powell had a very blah military career, with little to recommend him, or cause him to stand out..and his complicity in the invasion of Iraq...made him all the less deserving of respect..
windbreeze
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 11:50 PM
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11. Amen!
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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 10:58 PM
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6. A lifetime of brave, loyal, service to his country....
...down the sewer for Buxh, Cheney, and the Neo-Con agenda.
Then they plugged the drain after him in an attempt to insulate themselves from the stench he helped create, leaving him looking incompetent.

He sold himself at a bargain basement price and I'm not sure redemption will be possible. A lot to think about for an old soldier.
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 11:11 PM
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8. see my post #7. honour is NOT a word I associate with him.
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 11:40 PM
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10. Covering up genocide and murder is not honor.
his U.N. presentation:

"My colleagues, every statement I make today is backed up by sources, solid sources. These are not assertions. What we're giving you are facts and conclusions based on solid intelligence."

http://www.counterpunch.org/stephens11072005.html
the man that brought My lai to the attention of the military and the world specialist fourth class Tom Glen


,Glen's letter contended that many Vietnamese were fleeing from Americans who "for mere pleasure, fire indiscriminately into Vietnamese homes and without provocation or justification shoot at the people themselves." Gratuitous cruelty was also being inflicted on Viet Cong suspects, Glen reported.

"Fired with an emotionalism that belies unconscionable hatred, and armed with a vocabulary consisting of 'You VC,' soldiers commonly 'interrogate' by means of torture that has been presented as the particular habit of the enemy. Severe beatings and torture at knife point are usual means of questioning captives or of convincing a suspect that he is, indeed, a Viet Cong...

"It would indeed be terrible to find it necessary to believe that an American soldier that harbors such racial intolerance and disregard for justice and human feeling is a prototype of all American national character; yet the frequency of such soldiers lends credulity to such beliefs. ... What has been outlined here I have seen not only in my own unit, but also in others we have worked with, and I fear it is universal. If this is indeed the case, it is a problem which cannot be overlooked, but can through a more firm implementation of the codes of MACV (Military Assistance Command Vietnam) and the Geneva Conventions, perhaps be eradicated."

Glen's letter echoed some of the complaints voiced by early advisers, such as Col. John Paul Vann, who protested the self-defeating strategy of treating Vietnamese civilians as the enemy. In 1995, when we questioned Glen about his letter, he said he had heard second-hand about the My Lai massacre, though he did not mention it specifically. The massacre was just one part of the abusive pattern that had become routine in the division, he said.

Maj. Powell's Response

The letter's troubling allegations were not well received at Americal headquarters. Maj. Powell undertook the assignment to review Glen's letter, but did so without questioning Glen or assigning anyone else to talk with him. Powell simply accepted a claim from Glen's superior officer that Glen was not close enough to the front lines to know what he was writing about, an assertion Glen denies.

After that cursory investigation, Powell drafted a response on Dec. 13, 1968. He admitted to no pattern of wrongdoing. Powell claimed that U.S. soldiers in Vietnam were taught to treat Vietnamese courteously and respectfully. The Americal troops also had gone through an hour-long course on how to treat prisoners of war under the Geneva Conventions, Powell noted.

"There may be isolated cases of mistreatment of civilians and POWs," Powell wrote in 1968. But "this by no means reflects the general attitude throughout the Division." Indeed, Powell's memo faulted Glen for not complaining earlier and for failing to be more specific in his letter.

Powell reported back exactly what his superiors wanted to hear. "In direct refutation of this portrayal," Powell concluded, "is the fact that relations between Americal soldiers and the Vietnamese people are excellent."

Powell's findings, of course, were false. But it would take another Americal hero, an infantryman named Ron Ridenhour, to piece together the truth about the atrocity at My Lai. After returning to the United States, Ridenhour interviewed Americal comrades who had participated in the massacre.

On his own, Ridenhour compiled this shocking information into a report and forwarded it to the Army inspector general. The IG's office conducted an aggressive official investigation and the Army finally faced the horrible truth. Courts martial were held against officers and enlisted men implicated in the murder of the My Lai civilians.

But Powell's peripheral role in the My Lai cover-up did not slow his climb up the Army's ladder. Powell pleaded ignorance about the actual My Lai massacre, which pre-dated his arrival at the Americal. Glen's letter disappeared into the National Archives -- to be unearthed only years later by British journalists Michael Bilton and Kevin Sims for their book Four Hours in My Lai. In his best-selling memoirs, Powell did not mention his brush-off of Tom Glen's complaint.
http://www.consortiumnews.com/archive/colin3.html
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