Rice says Clinton left no plan

[Uben]

I guess she figures if she doesn't read it, it doesn't exist. That's the kind of convoluted thinking cowards use.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

1. Aparrently, PBS put out a doc that at least one viewer found

to be damning to miss Rice.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/campaign/talk/
Tragically, the Clinton-Clarke plan--which, as one high Bush Administration official conceded, included "everything we've done since 9/11"--sat on the back-burner for 8 months as it was nibbled to death by a low-level Bush Administration policy review. Thus, for 8 months--from January through September 11, 2001--the Bush Administration team, lead by Dick Cheney (in charge of the Administration's task force on terrorism) and Condoleezza Rice dawdled, giving al-Quaeda, fully funded and completely secure at their bases in Afghanistan, ample time to prepare their devastating "suck punch" against the United States. No wonder Condoleezza Rice wants to prevent the American people from learning about the Clinton Administration's Clarke Plan! For the sake of readers and viewers who heard nothing about any of this in the Frontline report, here is a summary of the Clarke Plan, as presented to incoming Bush Administration officials, including C. Rice, in January 2001, quoted from the August 12, 2002 issue of *Time Magazine*:

"Clarke's proposals called for the 'breakup' of al-Qaeda cells and the arrest of their personnel. The financial support for its terrorist activities would be systematically attacked, its assets frozen, its funding from fake charities stopped. Nations where al-Quaeda was causing trouble . . . would be given aid to fight the terrorists. Most important, Clarke wanted to see a dramatic increase in covert action in Afghanistan to 'eliminate the sanctuary' where al-Qaeda had its terrorist training camps and bin Laden was being protected by the radical Islamic Taliban regime. . . . Clarke supported a substantial increase in American support for the Northern Alliance, the last remaining resistance to the Taliban. . . . At the same time, the U.S. military would start planning for air strikes on the camps and for the introduction of special-operations forces into Afghanistan. . . . In the words of a senior Bush Administration official, the proposals amounted to 'everything we've done since 9/11.'"

So when Condoleezza Rice and other Administrative spokespeople try to create the false impression that there was no previously existing American plan to take on the Taliban--and that they had to plan the war in Afghanistan from scratch--they are simply engaging in the typical obfuscatory tactics of bureaucrats who have screwed-up "big time": more specifically, they are trying to protect themselves and their bosses (Bush and Cheney) from the American people's outrage at their 8 fateful months of appalling negligence and incompetence--culminating in the national tragedy of 9/11. It is obvious why Rice, et al, would want to perpetuate this cover-up of the Clarke plan and of the Bush Administrations 8 months of disasterous inaction--but why in the world would FRONTLINE want to implicate itself in this Bush Administration obfuscation of the historical record?

I strongly urge FRONTLINE to post this message and invite the producers of this report to respond.

[NVMojo]

3. 6 years of power and control and Rice still wants to point fingers

outward and backward?? Loser.

[TheFarseer]

13. I'm asking this in complete sincerity

and hoping to hear a legit answer: Why didn't they do all of that while Clinton was still in office?

[Justice]

14. I think the information was being accumulated in 1998-2000, and then

Cole was bombed in what Sept of 2000 - and when they confirmed that Bin Laden was behind Cole it was close to the election/in the recount period, and Clinton didn't think he should start something that the next president would be saddled with given the short time frame. So, the plan was laid out to give Bush a jumpstart, but he brushed it aside.

On edit:

President Clinton said law enforcement and intelligence agencies couldn't agree that al Qaeda was responsible for the bombing of the USS Cole until December, 2000 (after the 2000 election and during the recount). The 9/11 report states this also.

[rrasile]

20. Front line

is the only TV show that lays it out. I never miss front line and you can visit PBS on the web and watch any front line show. Watch the making of a President shows and see for yourself.
Rice either lies or contends that she doesn't remember. Fuck, ask Richard Clarke.

[deminks]

2. The gap in her teeth must be extra wide today.

from the force of all the lies.

[Skittles]

4. Skittles says Rice is a lying bush whore

yes INDEED

[Disturbed]

5. She is a blatant liar.

That's one of the qualifiers of any RW lackey in the Busholini Regime.

[wakeme2008]

6. Wakeme2008 hates rice more the dickie

She sat with her thumb up her ass and 9-11 happened because she did not want to listen to Richard Clarke. :grr:

[rock]

7. Even assuming that were true

He would have been the EX-president.

[xchrom]

8. if it falls outa her lips -- must be a lie.

[sandrakae]

9. Does anyone have a copy of the plan.

This would be great to send to the media outlets.

[cboy4]

10. All I know is she was part of the Bush Administration when those

planes hit us on 9/11.

Bush and the Republicans were in office on that day and they failed to protect us.

The bottom line is simple:

IT WAS THEIR RESPONSIBILITY....NOT CLINTON'S!!

THEY FAILED MISERABLY TO PROTECT THE COUNTRY!

[Champion Jack]

11. Isn't this kinda like the dog ate my homework defence?

[Justice]

12. no she is right, she said there was no

document entitled "Battle Plan to Go After Bin Laden Because He Was Responsible for the Bombing of the US Cole" -- and gosh golly, she cannot have expected to appreciate the meaning of all his documents that Richard Clark kept trying to get her to read, and all those statements by Clinton's appointees -- urgently describing Bin Laden as the most important issue she would deal with -

Condi's denials are that there was no "battleplan" not that there was no plan. She is about as dumb as toast - no wait, toast is smarter.

[underpants]

15. She's right they didn't tell them what flight and what seat number

because you know if they had then THEY would have moved heaven and earth....or some dripping sack of wet bullshit like that.

[Riddler]

16. How would Betty Boop know there was no plan

if Bubble Boy never even had any terrorism meetings to go over the info left to them?

[underpants]

19. I don't know that is some riddle there Riddler

Maybe there was a plan AS FAR AS SHE KNEW because they never showed her one.

:shrug:

Oh that's right looks like Condi didn't read this report either

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x2224098

[Joe Bacon]

17. Kindasleazy had more important things to do

That's what happens when your top priority is working out to Led Zepplin with Katie KKKouric!

[Supersedeas]

21. shopping piano playing brushing up on her Russian reviewing 'historical'

PDB's

[npincus]

18. Condi will do for Clarke's book sales what Chavez did for Chomsky's

STUPID GOP... it's all there in black and white. It'a all there in Condi's 9-11 Commission testimony.

Big, big strategic f*ck-up for them, to give new life to this lie.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=2223480&mesg_id=2223480

[windbreeze]

22. I just have to ask....anyone have a clue

as to why the R's are attacking Clinton??? Why do I feel as though I see an ulterior motive here? Could it be to get us on track to nominate Hillary, if only out of sympathy for their attacks on Bill??? hmmmmmm...It will be interesting to see IF the attacks keep up....Gotta remember this...THEY want Hillary to be our nominee, and they realize the majority of us really do NOT..I bet they have people monitoring all Democratic sites, so that they know what step to take next..considering that BC has been spending a lot of time with the *s lately, something is not right about all this....perhaps they are simply hoping we will get sidetracked from the midterms, but I suspect it goes much further than that...call me crazy...but these people make their plans way ahead of time...and they do NOT get sidetracked...
wb

[AtomicKitten]

23. At the time, their declared policy was ABC.

Anything But Clinton.

And we see how nicely that has worked out ...

[Imagevision]

24. 9-11 states Clinton did more - "Bush terror rsponse was scant" it's in

the 9-11 commision book

[gulliver]

25. Condi vs. Clinton and Clarke

:popcorn: