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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 10:11 AM
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Who is listening to Hostettler on the House floor?
Edited on Tue Sep-26-06 10:12 AM by acmejack
Anybody? He is on C-span talking about the Constitution thewy are debating the "Public Expression of Religion Act".
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 10:14 AM
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1. Hostettler is a jackass borderline fascist
Let me guess, he's probably pining away about the "oppression" of Christians in our society and blah blah blah. In the end, he'll mumble about abortion and keeping the gays from marrying.
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cspanlovr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 10:14 AM
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2. I didn't see your thread, but yes I'm listening. Can you believe it?
Well, yes, I guess I can believe it.
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 10:17 AM
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3. So they would have no problems with Rastafarians
"expressing" their religion in public, right?

Or Wiccans, liberal Christians, etc.
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 10:22 AM
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4. Hostettler is a real piece of work.
Using the date of the year to claim it was where Madison implicitly recognized the birth of Christ was breathtaking! Franks is masterful though, he is quite impressive (again)!
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 10:28 AM
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5. Chet Edwards just hit the nail on the head!
"Having this important debate about the First Amendment with 6 members out of 435 in 60 minutes."
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WePurrsevere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 11:07 AM
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6. Wording of this RW "Act". It's NOT as it seems from the name, anti-lawsuit
What a load of CRAP!

Info from here: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d109:HR02679:@@@L&summ2=m&

Title: To amend the Revised Statutes of the United States to eliminate the chilling effect on the constitutionally protected expression of religion by State and local officials that results from the threat that potential litigants may seek damages and attorney's fees.
Sponsor: Rep Hostettler, John N. (introduced 5/26/2005)

SUMMARY AS OF:
5/26/2005--Introduced.

Public Expression of Religion Act of 2005 - Amends the Revised Statutes of the United States to limit the remedy to injunctive relief and deny attorneys' fees in a civil action against a state or local official for deprivation of rights where the deprivation consists of a violation of a prohibition in the Constitution against the establishment of religion.

There are 66 co-sponsers (all RepubliCons?):

ALPHABETICAL : (Sort: by date)

Rep Akin, W. Todd - 6/26/2006
Rep Alexander, Rodney - 5/26/2005
Rep Bachus, Spencer - 5/26/2005
Rep Barrett, J. Gresham - 5/26/2005
Rep Bartlett, Roscoe G. - 5/26/2005
Rep Bass, Charles F. - 7/17/2006
Rep Beauprez, Bob - 11/18/2005
Rep Blunt, Roy - 6/26/2006
Rep Bonner, Jo - 7/26/2006
Rep Bradley, Jeb - 4/5/2006
Rep Calvert, Ken - 7/17/2006
Rep Chabot, Steve - 7/17/2006
Rep Cubin, Barbara - 4/5/2006
Rep Deal, Nathan - 11/18/2005
Rep Doolittle, John T. - 5/26/2005
Rep Duncan, John J., Jr. - 5/26/2005
Rep Emerson, Jo Ann - 4/5/2006
Rep Feeney, Tom - 7/26/2006
Rep Fortenberry, Jeff - 9/12/2006
Rep Fortuno, Luis G. - 9/12/2006
Rep Foxx, Virginia - 7/17/2006
Rep Franks, Trent - 11/18/2005
Rep Garrett, Scott - 7/26/2006
Rep Gingrey, Phil - 6/30/2005
Rep Goode, Virgil H., Jr. - 9/8/2005
Rep Harris, Katherine - 9/7/2006
Rep Hayes, Robin - 9/7/2006
Rep Hefley, Joel - 9/12/2006
Rep Herger, Wally - 6/8/2005
Rep Hunter, Duncan - 6/26/2006
Rep Inglis, Bob - 5/26/2005
Rep Jenkins, William L. - 5/26/2005
Rep Jindal, Bobby - 10/20/2005
Rep Jones, Walter B., Jr. - 5/26/2005
Rep Kennedy, Mark R. - 9/7/2006
Rep King, Steve - 7/29/2005
Rep Kingston, Jack - 5/26/2005
Rep Kline, John - 11/18/2005
Rep Marchant, Kenny - 9/15/2005
Rep McCaul, Michael T. - 11/18/2005
Rep McCotter, Thaddeus G. - 9/15/2005
Rep Miller, Jeff - 4/5/2006
Rep Moran, Jerry - 2/28/2006
Rep Musgrave, Marilyn N. - 9/15/2005
Rep Norwood, Charlie - 5/26/2005
Rep Otter, C. L. (Butch) - 5/26/2005
Rep Paul, Ron - 5/26/2005
Rep Pence, Mike - 12/6/2005
Rep Pickering, Charles W. (Chip) - 6/26/2006
Rep Pitts, Joseph R. - 5/26/2005
Rep Platts, Todd Russell - 2/28/2006
Rep Poe, Ted - 5/26/2005
Rep Radanovich, George - 2/28/2006
Rep Rahall, Nick J., II - 4/5/2006
Rep Ramstad, Jim - 6/17/2005
Rep Ryun, Jim - 2/28/2006
Rep Saxton, Jim - 4/5/2006
Rep Schmidt, Jean - 9/12/2006
Rep Smith, Lamar - 5/26/2005
Rep Sodrel, Michael E. - 5/26/2005
Rep Souder, Mark E. - 7/17/2006
Rep Tancredo, Thomas G. - 2/28/2006
Rep Tiahrt, Todd - 7/17/2006
Rep Wamp, Zach - 5/26/2005
Rep Weldon, Dave - 5/26/2005
Rep Wilson, Joe - 11/18/2005



Although it's late please consider taking action at Americans United For Separation of Church and State: http://capwiz.com/au/issues/alert/?alertid=9007716

If by some chance this nonsense passes Congress we'll need to take it to the Senate where they will hopefully smack it down.
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