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Nimrod2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 03:33 PM
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Could we possibly win the Senate but not the House?
Would that be better? I can't decide/know...Help!
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 03:35 PM
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1. We could stop all of his nominees for anything from being confirmed.
The Senate is known for it's "elitism" meaning that there are not "down and dirty" debates. The house would allow us this.
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Nimrod2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 03:39 PM
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2. I just hope we win something...anything!!!
Or we can possibly win both...
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 03:39 PM
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3. It is looking more likely with each passing day that we will take both...
chambers. It also looks like we will have 28-31 Governorships too.
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kentjay Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 03:47 PM
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13. i wish i shared your optimism dear.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 03:48 PM
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14. Don't be optimistic. Be realistic.
See post #8 below.
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Pushed To The Left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 10:19 PM
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29. That would be great!
There might be some more Supreme Court retirements in the next couple of years. We can't let Bush put another far right justice there!
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 03:40 PM
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4. Both would be best....
But one would be good.

The House is great....cause Senators have to keep entire states happy, not just possible partisan districts...so it is easier to "shame" Senators into doing the right thing. Plus, they have certain powers, even when in the minority.

The House can conduct investigations that might "accidently" end up giving us an Impeachment.

The Senate controls confirmations.

Either would be more useful than what we have now, which is Zilch, Nada, Zero!
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 03:40 PM
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5. House is better for just one reason: impeachment
Sorry, I had to say the "i" word ...
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Nimrod2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 03:43 PM
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7. Not too worried about being able to "I"mpeach, I really want us/them
newly elected Dem majority to work hard to turn this sinking ship around...
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 03:46 PM
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11. Same here.
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INdemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 03:57 PM
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18. As much as we all would like to see impeachment proceedings its not
practical..The process would consume most of the time congress needs to pass critical legislation that Republicans have ignored.By the time the process played out *'s term would be nearly over.Assuming Repukes would use strategies to delay most actions by the Democrats who wouldn't take control until January 2007. The Presidential primary campaigns will be off and running by then..
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 03:45 PM
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10. We don't need House to impeach if I understand from other posts
States can also forward impeachment
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 03:56 PM
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17. The House has the sole power of impeachment
Article I Section II

"The House of Representatives shall...have the sole Power of Impeachment."

Some think that a state can ask the House to impeach, but the House has no obligation to act.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 03:41 PM
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6. No filibuster in the House
So, if it ends up 218-217 Dems, then we control all the committee chairs, what comes to the floor, etc.

The minority party still has a decent amount of power in the Senate, as evidenced by Harry Reid.

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Nimrod2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 03:45 PM
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9. Very good point.......
You answered my question.

Thanks
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 03:46 PM
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12. Remember Dole when he was Minority Leader?
Did a fine job of blocking legislation.
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Ignacio Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 06:07 PM
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24. I'd rather have the House than Senate if I had to choose
Edited on Wed Sep-27-06 06:07 PM by Ignacio Upton
Also if we gain 3-4 seats in the Senate, the Republicans won't have the votes for the Nuclear Option. So if Bush nominates another Supreme Court Justice, then we will be able to block him/her.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 03:43 PM
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8. At the current time, we won't win any chamber of congress
If the election where held now, that's what it looks like. Who knows what it will look like in November?

http://www.electoral-vote.com/
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kentjay Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 03:52 PM
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16. that was a great site.to bad we can`t
turn the house to 218 dem 217 rethug.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 04:15 PM
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19. There's still a little over a month left; the numbers will change
Just reference the site to keep track of trends and multiple races.

I predict it will get slightly harder for Democrats as the anger over gas prices is being deflated by falling gas prices.
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kentjay Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 05:36 PM
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20. how ironic,i live in
oxford.ms
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 05:43 PM
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21. You base that on one set of predictions?
If we just hold NJ under that model we win the Senate and many more Republican House seats are vulnerable than most models indicate so I think we would win both chambers if the election were held today.
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 05:49 PM
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22. the problem with the predictions on that site
especially with the House predictions - is that too many of them are not based on current polling - they're based on the 2004 election.
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rep the dems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 10:23 PM
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30. Still, 50-50 would be much better than what we have now.
And New Jersey could still go for Menendez.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 10:59 PM
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31. I wouldn't be too sure about their Webb-Allen prediction.
Allen has been getting savaged in the press lately (and rightly so). Give it another couple of weeks. By their own data, Webb was ahead a very short time ago.
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beaconess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 03:51 PM
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15. ANYTHING's possible!
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 06:00 PM
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23. I've donated to the DSCC and to Democratic Senate candidates, but...
...winning the Senate in 2006 is unlikely.

If we make gains in November, then taking the Senate in 2008 will be likely.

Donate to get Democrats elected to the Senate
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Ignacio Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 06:08 PM
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25. We also only have two vulnerable seats in 2008
Tim Johnson and Mary Landrieu. Of course, that's assuming we don't have anyone retiring.
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Awsi Dooger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 06:08 PM
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26. I've been considering that possibility the past few days
Seemed impossible a month or two ago. Now I think it's very feasible. The Bush approval upward trend and lack of a clear Democratic message is more likely to impact our House chances than senate, IMO. Less seats in play. But in the vital senate races the dynamics of the races have not changed, our opponents are generally very vulnerable, and it's a matter of picking them all off.

I always respect Ed Rollins' analysis, if not his politics, and he just said on Lou Dobb's program that he thinks the GOP will retain the House but have a much more difficult time keeping the senate.

I think we'll hear more and more about this as a possibility. On the betting sites the relationship has narrowed. Our House chances have dropped from 55% to 43% on Tradesports while the Senate chances have remained the same at roughly 17%. So this is not considered the favorite but IMO it's now in play. Remember, in 2000 the conventional wisdom was Gore could win the electoral college while losing the popular vote but of course it turned out the other way, via the garbage in Florida.
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Nimrod2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 07:00 PM
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27. NY TIMES BREAKING...DEMS CHANCES IMPROVE
Re winning the Senate...Thursday's paper!!!
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 07:03 PM
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28. I would consider the other way around more likely.
Winning the House, but not the Senate. In the Senate we're limited by the number of races that are up this year (only about a third) and how many of those are relatively noncompetitive. But the entire house is up every two years, of course, so every seat is potentially in play. And with the spike in anti-incumbant sentiment, combined with Bush's low approval and the extent to which the Republican congress has been a rubber stamp for him, the odds are pretty good for the House.
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Nye Bevan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 08:21 AM
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32. Very unlikely

If we win the senate then things have gone so well for us that we will almost certainly also win the house.

Much more likely that we will win the house but not the senate.
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