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dtotire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 07:51 AM
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N-WORD ACCUSER OF THE DAY:
From the NEW REPUBLIC
The latest acquaintance of George Allen with a specific and on the record account of Allen using the N-word is Ellen G. Hawkins of Manquin, Virginia. The New York Times has the story:


Mrs. Hawkins, who described herself as a rural Virginia housewife and an active Democrat, said in an interview Tuesday that she heard Mr. Allen use the slur repeatedly at a party on election night in 1976. She said Mr. Allen used the term while deprecating the intelligence of the black players on the Washington Redskins football team, which Mr. Allen's father coached. Recalling remarks about its star running back, Larry Brown, Mrs. Hawkins said that Mr. Allen "started in effect bad-mouthing him, saying what a shiftless you-know-what" he was.

She said she remembered the conversation because she was a big fan of the team and was shocked. She said Mr. Allen's statement on Monday was "just plain a lie."

On Tuesday afternoon, I obtained an email sent by Hawkins in which she discussed the incident and noted a few additional details:


I have a very specific memory of a conversation I had with George Allen when he was in law school at UVA, in which he used similar language -- much to my shock at the time. In my case, I can give time and place, as it occurred at a Ford-Carter election night party at the home of a mutual friend. I might add that I have told some people about this throughout the years -- most recently I talked to Tyler Whitley of the Richmond Times Dispatch about it a few weeks ago when he asked me why I was supporting Jim Webb in this campaign.

What was the response of Allen campaign manager Dick Wadhams, the guy formerly known as the next Karl Rove, to the latest N-word charge? He told the Times it was "another false accusation."

I truly don't mean to pile on, but it's worth summarizing what we now know about Allen's history on matters of race:


-He wore or displayed Confederate memorabilia from high school (late 1960s) until 1993, including on himself, his car, in his living room, and in a campaign ad.

-In high school he allegedly sprayed racist graffiti on his school's walls.

-In college he allegedly stuffed the head of a deer in a black family's mailbox.

-According to the accounts of three independent, on the record sources and two anonymous sources, in college and law school in the 1970s and as an attorney starting a political career in the early 1980s, Allen regularly and casually used the word "nigger" to describe African Americans.

There are two possibilities: Allen is the victim of a massive conspiracy to paint him as a racist, a plot that involves numerous high school and college classmates, a Virginia housewife, an Alabama anthropologist, and a North Carolina radiologist. Or, George Allen was a racist.

--Ryan Lizza

posted 11:06 p.m
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mohinoaklawnillinois Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 07:54 AM
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1. Um, Mr. LIzza, you should change your opinion of Senator Macaca
from "Or, George Allen was a racist." to "Or, George Allen is a racist."
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Joe Bacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 07:59 AM
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3. This is from THE NEW REPUBLICAN
The same magazine that treats all Nazi Republicans with kid gloves. You can bet the farm if a Democrat used the same word, all hell would break loose!
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 08:08 AM
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5. The dragged some swiftboater out...
to claim that Webb had used it 30 years ago in college out in L.A. before he transferred to West Point. The guy (Republi-con of course) claimed Webb had told him the story during an interview, however, funnily enough it wasn't in the transcript and it never made it into the article.

So there you have it, we have one unsubstantiated story about Webb against dozens about Allen, many of which have been substantiated, coupled with his acknowledged fascination with Confederate symbolism, and his derogatory use of the word "macaca".
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Joe Bacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 12:14 AM
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9. And who is the media fawning over?
Of course, it's the Swiftboater lying about Webb that they are all a-ga-ga over!
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 12:21 AM
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10. I saw that on the crawl on MSNBC... and you're right..
It evidently wasn't substantiated enough to make it off the crawl and onto the news.

According to Tweety > > there will be others stepping forward with allegations against Allen.

The idiot Matthews also said Allen will still win no matter what.

What the *^$@ does he know?!?!?! :mad:
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 07:57 AM
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2. Allen is a throwback, Jim Crow 'Bama style racist....
:scared:
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 07:59 AM
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4. Did you know he was from a football family? Really, it's true.
Every time he appears on the sunday talk shows he brings that up. Who cares, George?

Maybe they'll start asking him about his racist past for a change.

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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 08:18 AM
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6. What we need to do is find the black family who found a deer's head
in their mailbox. However, I could certainly understand their wanting to remain anonymous.

:headbang:
rocknation
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waiting for hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 08:22 AM
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7. Did you see Franken on The Daily Show
Edited on Thu Sep-28-06 08:22 AM by waiting for hope
last night - basically (before Stewart started to crack him up) he was saying that even his mother thinks he's a racist based on her comment:

"What they put my father through. I always was fearful," Etty Allen said in a telephone interview. "I didn't want my children to have to go through that fear all the time. When I told Georgie, I said, 'Now you don't love me anymore.' He said, 'Mom, I respect you more than ever.' "

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/20/AR2006092001965.html?nav=rss_metro

It's over Georgie....pack it up and take it home. Bye-Bye.
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zonkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 08:27 AM
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8. George Allen needs therapy. He is a sick, self hating man who could still
be of service to the communtiy, maybe not as Senator or President but as a reformed racist.
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