I called Hagel's office and Ben Nelson's. I also threw a UPS

[acmavm]

cretin out of the office because he was in here when I was talking to Nelson's office and he said he was 'for' torture.

His justification: 'They' (whoever that is) aren't American citizens and don't have the same rights as we do. And we won't torture anyway.

I told him he was in the wrong uniform, get his ass in army fatigues. And then I told him if he didn't get out of here I'd call his supervisor.

He told me he wasn't trying to make me mad. I told him too late.

This administration is tearing this country apart.

[jean]

1. ignoramus UPS guy. Maybe his thought processes will kick in after this

encounter.

[TygrBright]

2. Obviously the UPS idiot had never READ the US Constitution...

...because NOWHERE in the Constitution does it say that any rights except voting or holding office are reserved for US Citizens. Those rights apply to anyone under US jurisdiction.

I'm having a hard time not crying today.

sorrowfully,
Bright

[jean]

5. Please watch this - you'll feel a little better - - -

http://youtube.com/watch?v=vr3x_RRJdd4

It's from this thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x2244144

[liberalmuse]

3. What an ASS.

American rights ARE Human Rights. God, the stupidity. Make it stop!

[Nite Owl]

4. And by that reasoning

our soldiers aren't citizens of whatever country decided now that torture is ok and they too don't have to abide by any old conventions signed long ago. That reasoning works both ways. The UPS guy doesn't support the troops.

[ms liberty]

6. My husband the FedEx guy would agree with you! n/t

[Divine Discontent]

14. unable to get him to see

that advocating what they're doing today is breaking not only the geneva conventions but encourages other people to harm our troops with full vindication because the USA does it? We are to be above doing the same things they do to people. Even if it feels like we're doing all we can, there are some boundaries we can't cross. Otherwise we're just a more wealthy "them".

Of course, you've probably tried saying this to him. lol.. sorry.

[ms liberty]

16. Sorry - I think you misunderstood me!

My husband is a FedEx guy, and he agrees with us, and would agree with the OP. He would have joined the OP in screaming about this mess, and the OP wouldn't have had to kick him out of her office!

[Divine Discontent]

17. I did, obviously. Thank you! :) n/t

[OrangeCountyDemocrat]

7. MORONS!!!

Come on, the guy is paid to carry boxes and Next-Day Letters around. I'm guessing he has some nice muscles, and would come in handy for lifting the Sparklett's bottle onto the cooler.

Don't be too harsh on him because he probably is doing all he can to get by on his high school education, while spending his free time watching O'Leilly and listening to rush while driving his truck.

[acmavm]

8. Little asshole had a shaved head, probably 30 years old or

so, and I swear I could take him now that I've put on weight since I quit smoking.

But I KNOW FOR A FACT that I can out-think the squirrelly little bastid even in a coma.

[Greyhound]

9. An ignorant sheep that typifies our most pressing problem.

As a people, we are willfully ignorant and criminally negligent, they truly have no understanding of, nor interest in anything of substance any longer. We have become so poorly educated that the simple task of connecting the dots is beyond the capabilities of a majority.

[wicket]

10. Does the UPS guy deliver or pick-up at your office a lot?

If so, why not have enlistment papers printed for him the next time he shows up? :evilgrin:

[acmavm]

12. Good idea. I'll do that. He's not here often, but the next time

he is...

[chat_noir]

20. here's the enlistment form

http://usmilitary.about.com/library/pdf/enlistment.pdf

[raccoon]

11. I'm glad you threw his ass out. nt

[GreenTea]

13. Man, I love your STYLE!

And your in a red state...You can teach a lot to the do nothing and timid in the blue states...

[Totally Committed]

15. How can ANYONE in their right mind be "for torture"?????

I weep for this country, I really do. Ugh.

Just a note: Calling his supervisor probably won't get him reprimanded, but promoted. UPS is a VERY "red" company.

TC

[acmavm]

18. Who knows, but it got his ass out of there.

[Totally Committed]

19. That's what counts, I guess!

I wonder if he'll keep the route after this?

You did the right thing.

TC

[Jade Fox]

23. Sheer ignorance.....

he hasn't got a clue as to what he is talking about.

[redacted]

21. Boy, does THAT reflect poorly on the UPS brand. Don't use them.

We use FedEx for just about everything.

[leesa]

22. You should have corrected him about them having the same rights

Our Constitution says everyone has those rights.