ENOUGH! Instead of the 12 traitors, here are the 34 AMERICANS

[WildEyedLiberal]

There's been more than enough talk on DU of the 12 traitors who voted for torture, so I thought I'd highlight the 34 who did NOT. It is sad that we live in a world where we must celebrate a Senator for opposing TORTURE, but I for one think that their conscience should be recognized.

Here they are:

NAYs ---34

Akaka (D-HI)
Baucus (D-MT)
Bayh (D-IN)
Biden (D-DE)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Boxer (D-CA)
Byrd (D-WV)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Chafee (R-RI)
Clinton (D-NY)
Conrad (D-ND)
Dayton (D-MN)
Dodd (D-CT)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Durbin (D-IL)
Feingold (D-WI)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Harkin (D-IA)
Inouye (D-HI)
Jeffords (I-VT)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Kerry (D-MA)
Kohl (D-WI)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)
Lincoln (D-AR)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Murray (D-WA)
Obama (D-IL)
Reed (D-RI)
Reid (D-NV)
Sarbanes (D-MD)
Schumer (D-NY)
Wyden (D-OR)

Edit: If any of these are your Senators, please call them or send them a letter to let them know that you appreciate their stand against torture and for the Constitution. You KNOW they're going to be inundated with sewage from freepers accusing them of being un-American and pro-terrorist, so PLEASE call/fax/write/email them and let them know that you think they did the right thing.

[KyndCulture]

1. Minnesota and America thanks Senator Dayton.

[jwirr]

21. Indeed we do.

[Monkeyman]

2. My Two From IL. I stand and say HooYa

[greatauntoftriplets]

4. And kudos to my Congressman....

Danny Davis.

[peacemon]

14. my Texas HooYAa where it will do some good,

[Tatiana]

22. Illinoisans should be proud.

We've elected two very good Senators. Hopefully, the other states will follow.

[terrya]

51. Exactly right. I'm very proud of our two Senators.

[valerief]

3. Thanks for the list. These are the only Senators who don't hate

America, because they voted FOR the Constitution.

[RobertSeattle]

5. OT - but amusing...

I wanted to get a list of all the nays and yeas so I typed into my browser www.senate.gov. What's on their current home page?

"We the People"
Celebrating the Constitution
http://www.senate.gov/

[WildEyedLiberal]

7. Oh, the irony....

[hootinholler]

12. I was groovin to the irony that

Neither Senator from the "Live Free or Die" state voted NAY.

Unless I misread he list.

Then there was that bit. That's nearly as good as the Colbert backwash comment and teh survey about him being 32% unfavorable.

-Hoot

[WildEyedLiberal]

15. Nope, you didn't misread, NH has a couple of pukes

So they voted yes to torture and dismantling the Constitution. Live free or die, indeed.

[Tesha]

48. Neither did either Congressman.

(Our slogan is just a slogan, and remember, The Old Man
of the Mountain fell off of his cliff early in the Bush
Presidency. Out of shame, I suppose.)

Tesha

[kentuck]

6. Yes, let's talk about the planes that landed...

not the ones that crashed. :)

[NCarolinawoman]

8. I wish Chaffee had become a Democrat.

He's a heck of a lot better than Joe-traitor Loserman.

[peacemon]

9. I would shorten to only the 28 who....

Voted No on cloture which was the only chance to beat something like this. Only 13 more true patriots needed.


NAYs ---28
Akaka (D-HI)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Boxer (D-CA)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Carper (D-DE)
Chafee (R-RI)
Clinton (D-NY)
Dodd (D-CT)
Durbin (D-IL)
Feingold (D-WI)
Harkin (D-IA)
Inouye (D-HI)
Jeffords (I-VT)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Kerry (D-MA)
Kohl (D-WI)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)
Lieberman (D-CT)
Menendez (D-NJ)
Murray (D-WA)
Obama (D-IL)
Reed (D-RI)
Reid (D-NV)
Salazar (D-CO)
Sarbanes (D-MD)
Schumer (D-NY)

Not Voting - 1
Snowe (R-ME)

[peacemon]

13. ..The delta representing the WeasleCrat Caucus

[ProudDad]

19. F*CK YOU FEINSTEIN!!!!

You don't get Sh*t from me!!!

(Of course, that repuke light wasn't gonna get sh*t from me anyway!)

[WildEyedLiberal]

26. She voted NO to this bill!

What the fuck else do you want? Jesus Christ. Why don't you focus your hate on the 12 who DID vote for torture? Or better yet, THE REPUBLICANS!

[snowbear]

28. OMG.... I sure hope Proud Dad see's your response WideEyed!

Wow..

[ProudDad]

30. She didn't vote against Cloture

THAT was the important vote!


On Edit: She's been a devastating disappointment from the time we had to suffer her as Mayor to the present. From ANY other state, she'd BE a repuke...

[pnwmom]

35. Cloture wasn't the important vote.

We didn't have enough votes, period.

[ProudDad]

37. Au Contraire mon Frer

We only needed 41 votes for cloture, we needed 51 to defeat it -- no chance.

We were only 13 votes short of cutting that obscenity off at the knees.

If all of the dems had voted against cloture that piece of sh*t would have died!

[Mass]

45. THIS IS NOT CLOTURE ON THE DETAINEE ACT!!!

There was no cloture vote.

[ProudDad]

62. I wonder why

anyone is so hot to defend feinstein?

[fujiyama]

38. This list is misleading

because a few of them still voted for the "compromise bill", notably Lautenberg and Menendez, who both voted for the bill.

[Mass]

44. This is cloture on the Fence Bill, not the Detainee Bill. Lieberman,

Lautenrg and Menendez voted YES on torture, as did Salazar and Carper.

[peacemon]

58. Apologies for sending this list, it is wrong...There was no Cloture Vote

[Botany]

10. Way to go 34!

But Joe Lieberman was not one of them

Surprise Surprise Surprise

http://blogmeisterusa.mu.nu/archives/GomerPyle.bmp


BTW the more I see and read about Sen. Dorgan the more I like him.

[WildEyedLiberal]

16. Dorgan's new book looks good

I will have to pick it up sometime soon.

[cascadiance]

18. So why did Lieberman vote to fillibuster and not no on the bill itself?

That is puzzling? What's that bum's game?

[ProudDad]

33. It's so he can

tell one audience he voted against it and the OTHER audience he voted for it.

He always wants it both ways -- the slime-ball.

[cascadiance]

50. You'd think if he was a corporate tool he'd reverse how he voted...

To try and guarantee that he'd pass the thing and still have a way to say he was "against" it.

I guess in this case he wasn't trying to serve the corporations, but to serve himself. The way he voted, he had an opportunity to be on "the winning side" at least oncd (where it counted) on each side.

This is why it's hard to know if all of these guys votes aren't just theater IF a fillibuster never happens. If they know that there is going to be no fillibuster because they don't have to count the votes, they know that there is no REAL cost of what happens in the fillibuster if tacitly they are "supposed" to allow this to pass. So if they know that not enough votes are going to be had to do an actual fillibuster and yet they feel they need to do it to get votes from their constituency, then they can all be posturing, except for the few that feel that not fillibustering in their constituency won't be costly to them and in their cases vote against the fillibuster.

What it gets down to, is that we need to have Democrats in EVERY area demand a fillibuster of certain bills like this one, so that no Democrat feels safe in not voting to fillibuster bills such as these. Nebraska and Louisiana Dems, could you help communicate that message to Nelson and Landrieu?

Then it will be hard for the DLC or other "corporate influenced" Dems to make this tradeoff to suit the special interests that control them. They either have to lose votes in their constituencies or have the vote go against these bribing lobbyists' wishes.

[ddeclue]

11. Thank you Senator Kerry....

I knew I did all that work for you in 2004 for a reason...

You have done right today sir...

Doug D.

[TayTay]

43. Thank you Massachusetts delegation to the Congress

We have 10 Representatives to the House. 9 of them voted against the the idea that the government can torture anyone it wants and hold them indefinitely without a trial and even without telling them what the charge against them is. (One Rep didn't show for the vote, sigh!)

Thank you to my whole Congressional delegation, Sens Kennedy & Kerry included, for doing the right thing. The patriots who started the American Revolution and stood up to a tyrant would be proud of you today.

[ddeclue]

49. We need to open an S&M theme park in Orlando...

Considering BOTH of our Senators voted for torture (1 Dem, 1 Republican)

[Name removed]

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[hootinholler]

20. Irrelevant.

In that case you choose to violate the law or not, and take your chances with a jury, or get pardoned.

It's doubtful that you would actually get enough info soon enough to stop it if it was actually ticking.

-Hoot

[Imagevision]

24. Irrelevant? - yeah well, if your son's or daughters life was on the line

and you had poessesion of said terrorist, there is the possibility it would become quite relevant...

[hootinholler]

29. Like I said, the argument to legalize torture because of this scenario is

Irrelevant. You would make the choice I outlined. I would make that choice, and no I don't know which I would choose.

That's no reason to legalize torture, suspend Habeus, and all the other evil in this bill.

I reject your premis that such a scenario is in any possible way justification for a free pass for war criminals who indiscriminately tortured people.

There are other forums for people who think like that.

-Hoot

[kster]

25. Will this give other countries the same right? With our guys/gals

If they have them in custody and think they have done something wrong? WARNING

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeDGIqVvaLY

[lumberjack_jeff]

31. Yeah! I saw that on TV once! I bet it happens all the time!

But I'm sure there's a maverick fbi agent out there who'll open some whoop-ass on those swarthy types just in time to save the Sandra Bullock character with just a couple of seconds on the 'ol bomb timer.

:eyes:

I don't think much of your ability to compare relative threats.

[ProudDad]

34. You are mouthing

a totally discredited straw man argument.

[young_at_heart]

23. I wish my senators had made the list....Burr and Dole

The like torture I guess!

[Jo March]

61. Yep, they are my senators as well

Sucks, doesn't it?

[ralps]

27. Thank You to My Sen. Feingold & Sen. Kohl!!!

:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:

[Cascadian]

32. Once again, thanks to Senators Murray and Cantwell.

You have chosen wisely and for that I applaud you despite this loss.


John

[niyad]

36. unfortunately, neither of my two idiots is on the list--and one of them

is SUPPOSED to be a dem (although he passed DINO a long time ago)

giving serious consideration to picketing his regional office tomorrow.

[Seabiscuit]

39. * has his 34% and so do we! Whoopee!

Unfortunately for us, his 34% controls absolutely everything!

Our 34% make speeches and almost no one listens.

[mhatrw]

40. Hooray! Less than 35% of our Senators voted for habeas corpus!

Sorry, but this was the darkest political day of my lifetime, by far.

[GetTheRightVote]

41. So Bill Nelson (D-FL) voted with the Repubs ? I don't know what to say

I can not abide by anyone voting for torture.
I though he was a better person then that, this is a very, very bad day for Florida. We need better representatives so badly here in the sunshine state, you just do not know. :(

:kick:

[progressoid]

42. I called mine before the vote - good idea to call after as well.

[madinmaryland]

46. Every Maryland Senator and Rep voted against this abomination!

[Le Taz Hot]

47. As a frequent critic of Feinstein

I have to give credit where credit is due. Yeah, she voted for cloture but we didn't have enough to sustain a filibuster anyway, and she did do the right thing and voted AGAINST torturing human beings (the thought still makes me sick to my stomach). And, as always, a huge thanks to Barbara Boxer as well. The Senators from California did us proud.

[cascadiance]

52. She's too old to be winning beauty pageants...

and that's what the second vote was. She should have voted NO on both of them. If enough folks did that, we'd have not lost our Democracy yesterday. When I saw the top of the page, I felt as you did, but seeing her voting for cloture, I got reminded why I probably will be voting for Todd Chretien instead in November. Had it not been for Cindy Sheehan threatening to run against her in the primary, she probably would have voted the same way in the Alito vote too (voting for cloture). Had she been like Lieberman and flipped us off anyway, we might have had Cindy Sheehan join the ranks of Ned Lamont in November.

[LynneSin]

53. Some of those great Americans - I want to give them Committee Control

Some of them will do some great things to help turn this country around. So if I have to vote for Tom Carper (clearly not on the list nor doesn't realize that when someone loses a democratic primary you support the winner) because I want to give these 34 Senators who held their ground the chance to turn this country around.

It's not about floor votes, it's about committees. And it would be nice for 2 years to have Leahy running the Judicary because the last time he had the chair he kept 10 Activist Judges from ever getting a floor vote. And you can be assured that none of the Gang of 14 will get a seat on that committee

[New Earth]

54. NEITHER NJ senators are on this list

WTF???????????????

can someone please post a list of those who voted to pass it? i know it would be whoever isn't listed here but i don't know them all by heart. thank you.

i still can't believe this shit. i have been crying today because of it. :(

[LynneSin]

55. That was a shocker to me, they are both pretty liberal democrats

and Menendez voted both against the IWR and the Patriot Act.

But still, Menendez is a better option than Kean Jr.

[New Earth]

56. i'm very very very disappointed in Lautenberg

he has always voted very liberally. such a fucking disappointment, i'm almost ready to write to him. x(

[LynneSin]

57. I'm writing to mine

I was proud that Joe Biden did the right thing but sorely disapointed with what Carper has been doing. But we're stuck with Carper in Delaware and I'm not putting a republican in office.

The one bright side with Menendez, Lautenberg and also Sherrod Brown is that all three of them give me hope for trying to end this war altogether. I think if we could get control - all 3 will be a major bonus to helping that get done. I was impressed with Menendez's creditials from his work in the House.

[opihimoimoi]

59. HAWAII has 2 on the List....Yeah baby....2 for Sanity and Reason...

[AbbyR]

60. I just called Blanche Lincoln and thanked her

And I also called Pryor's office and told them that I will be actively seeking a Democrat to run against him in the next election. If any of you in Arkansas have any ideas, let's get together and work on it. If I had money and a name, I'd do it myself. I am SO furious at Pryor, and so proud of Blanche.