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ihelpu2see Donating Member (935 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 07:06 AM
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Zogby has Lamont and Lieberman in dead heat while
the Q poll released yesterday has Lieberman up by 10%??? I do think it is closer than the 10%.

Go Ned.

http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Zogby_poll_Lieberman_leads_Lamont_by_0928.html
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 07:25 AM
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1. polling and campaigning
What the insurgence of Democratic polling actually means is that the broad understanding of the voters IS turning our way. It also means something so obvious that it is largely forgotten. The turning voters need to be reached by our side and as that happens they move into our column. What you are seeing is the effect of campaigning and voter decision making hardening against the GOP. How much due to campaigning? The critical amount needed for solid wins.

There is a harvest out there that is not a mystical shift in opinion but simple groundwork in presenting the voter with a great alternative in the flesh. The party COULD take bold national, new-making stands that would inflame and move the populace. We know the real state of affairs there. The ACTUAL deciding factor however is the simple "all politics is local" ground campaign in a Congressional year.

Are we falling short or going slow there? Is the clock running on simply collecting vastly winnable votes?

Are we not putting enough volunteers and efforts into this great opportunity, this ripe harvest? I know mys district needs more even as the polls draw dead even. Votes are falling as the phones ring and the doors knock and the TV presents Eric Massa over the disliked Kuhl.

Grassroots efforts and money translates into votes almost automatically to break through the habitual or ignorant GOP or independent voter- at least in NY-29. Since the GOP are largely vote clones and soulless parrots trapped by Cheney money this is likely true in most districts. We can hurt them everywhere and win a majority of seats. But it takes an effort that deserves more real help.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 07:29 AM
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2. when was the latest Zogby poll taken?
The Q poll was taken just a few days ago.

I'd like to think that the Q poll is wrong and Zogby is right. 10 points is a pretty big margin. I just hope Ned can become more visible because people know Lieberman so much better after all these years. I wish people would pay attention better...

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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 11:02 AM
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10. The latest Zogby poll was conducted 9/19 to 9/25
This has been called a 'dead heat' result because it was so close, but it was not a tie. Lieberman was ahead 46% to 44%.

A Quinnipiac survey conducted 9/21 to 9/25 gave Lieberman a lead of 49% to 39%.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2006/senate/ct/connecticut_senate_race-21.html#polls

Using the last day of the actual survey as the poll date, and not the day it was released, seems to be the most common convention. That's the way I play it anyway. I always cite the latest poll when putting together summaries of where we stand.

But with these 2 polls on the same date I pick the one that is most favorable to the Democratic candidate. Hey, I'm a Democrat. What else do you suspect?

So Lamont's currently down by 2, with trending apparently in his favor.
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stuartrida Donating Member (326 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 07:40 AM
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3. I hope you aren't referencing those Zogby interactive polls
those seem sketchy to me. Lamont needs to debate Schlesinger and leave Lieberman out of it. Increased awareness of Schlesinger is going to help Lamont.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 07:48 AM
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4. I wish it were so but don't get your hopes up
Here in CT Schlesinger is as good as dead. I know some good folks cling to the fantasy that by driving up votes for Schlesinger we can drive votes away from Lieberman. I don't see any real contest, tho. It's a great theory but it is just not valid in this race. We simply must sweep all Dems and get a good portion of independents and that doesn't look like it's happening. We keep trying, tho...
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ihelpu2see Donating Member (935 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 10:02 PM
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8. My republican wife is voting for Lamont as well as 2 other Republicans I
know. I still think if you are a small government type, you would see that the republican party is NOT that..... Not that the dem. party is but at least the dem. party does not want to see your 401k or IRA holdings or listen into your phone calls and the especially don't seem to mind if consenting adults are..... well doing what consenting adults can and often ( well I'm married so often could be a stretch) will do.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 10:24 AM
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9. Yep, even my Republican neighbor
who calls himself a Libertarian (fibber!)is prolly going to vote for Lamont. But he and people like your wife are CT Republicans and that makes a difference. My boss's husband, a lifelong Republican, was also for Lamont and would have voted for him had he not died unexpectedly a week ago.

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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 08:12 AM
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5. The Zogby Interactive polls are not reliable at all.
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kybob Donating Member (111 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 09:41 AM
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6. only poll that counts.........
is the poll taken on voting day...most times anyway.
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lonehalf Donating Member (273 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 10:05 AM
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7. I listened to Hannity because Zogby was going to be on.
Zogby said that Lieberman was ahead by 4% but was gaining.

Then he said that his interactive showed a dead heat.

Then Rasmussen said that LaMont was gaining but not not very much. He had it Lieberman by 8%.
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