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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 02:36 PM
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Rumsfeld: No one anticipated insurgency's strength
CNN is trying to sell Rummy's lies again:

Rumsfeld: No one anticipated insurgency's strength

POSTED: 9:35 p.m. EDT, September 28, 2006
Who is Donald Rumsfeld? This weekend CNN goes inside his tough exterior to find out why he's so untouchable. "Rumsfeld, Man of War, " Saturday and Sunday at 8 p.m. ET

(CNN) -- Donald Rumsfeld's Iraqi war plan worked beautifully for three weeks. U.S. troops quickly deposed Saddam Hussein and captured Baghdad with a relatively small force and with lightning speed.

(CNN) -- Donald Rumsfeld's Iraqi war plan worked beautifully for three weeks. U.S. troops quickly deposed Saddam Hussein and captured Baghdad with a relatively small force and with lightning speed.

But with Iraq on the verge of civil war three years later, the secretary of defense now admits that no one was well-prepared for what would happen after major combat ended.

"Well, I think that anyone who looks at it with the benefit of 20/20 hindsight has to say that there was not an anticipation that the level of insurgency would be anything approximating what it is," Rumsfeld told CNN for the documentary, "CNN Presents Rumsfeld -- Man of War," which debuts Saturday at 8 p.m. ET.

In a rare one-on-one television interview, Rumsfeld talked with CNN special correspondent Frank Sesno about the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, the transformation of the U.S. military and his approach to management.

more...

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/09/28/rumsfeld.profile


Check out Rummy's "brilliant" plan here


Article from 2004:

Prewar intelligence predicted Iraqi insurgency


By John Diamond, USA TODAY

The moment when U.S. troops realized they had badly underestimated the resistance they would encounter from Iraqi guerrilla fighters can be pinpointed to the minute.

At precisely 9 a.m. on March 22, 2003, the third day of the war in Iraq, GIs riding armored vehicles through the southern town of Samawah waved at a group of civilians gathered near a bridge. Instead of a friendly reply, they got automatic weapons fire. The men charged the armored column in waves, attacking with AK-47 rifles and rocket-propelled grenades.

With their superior firepower, the Americans cut down the attackers by the score. But the incident stunned U.S. soldiers and commanders, according to an account by Staff Sgt. Dillard Johnson, who helped beat back the attack that day. Lt. Col. Terry Ferrell, one of Johnson's superior officers, had half-jokingly told his troops to "expect a parade."

The searing experience, recounted in "On Point," an official Army report on the conflict, has since become daily fare for the 138,000 U.S. troops deployed to Iraq. "For the first but not the last time, well-armed paramilitary forces — indistinguishable, except for their weapons, from civilians — attacked the squadron," the account notes. The difference now is that the Iraqis have become wilier fighters, increasingly adept at using remote bombs and hit-and-run tactics while avoiding counterattack.

As the insurgency has intensified, so has the scrutiny of the White House over warnings it received before the war that predicted the instability. An examination of prewar intelligence on the possibility of postwar violence and of the administration's response shows:

• Military and civilian intelligence agencies repeatedly warned prior to the invasion that Iraqi insurgent forces were preparing to fight and that their ranks would grow as other Iraqis came to resent the U.S. occupation and organize guerrilla attacks.

• The war plan put together by Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and Army Gen. Tommy Franks discounted these warnings. Rumsfeld and Franks anticipated surrender by Iraqi ground forces and a warm welcome from civilians.

• The insurgency began not after the end of major combat in May 2003 but at the beginning of the war, yet Pentagon officials were slow to identify the enemy and to grasp how serious a threat the guerrilla attacks posed.

more...

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2004-10-24-insurgence-intel_x.htm?csp=15



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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 02:37 PM
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1. No one anticipated anything, asshole
This bunch couldn't predict Christmas on Christmas Eve.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 02:38 PM
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2. We've been down this road before, but thanks, ProSense, for
proving the lie. Why don't these guys realize that it's easy to retrieve info to show what a bunch of b.s.ers they are. From taped programs to printed media, there's not much wiggle room (except when no one calls them on it).
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NoAmericanTaliban Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 02:39 PM
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3. Call them 'The Gang that couldn't Shot Straight' N/T
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MissMarple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 02:43 PM
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4. A lot like Rice's comments just after 9/11.
She said no one could have imagined airplanes would be flown into buildings. At the time I thought she was either incompetent or lying...now we know it is both.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 02:46 PM
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5. Rumsfeld documentary this weekend (CNN) another war criminal
total incompetance while Bush gives him a pat on the back, (heckofajob Rummy)
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democrat_patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 02:56 PM
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6. WHY NOT!?!?!?!?!?! No seriously Don, why not?

Because you.are.incompetent.
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 03:11 PM
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7. So we agree. You're an idiot, Don.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 03:27 PM
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8. Bush keeping Rummy makes it better for 11/07/06 change of power
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Marnieworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 03:29 PM
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9. That's funny
SInce it was all anyone talked about at a Veterans Protest I went to the first weekend of the war. I guess he should have hung out with us cause we knew.

LIARS! I wish that there was a hell for them.
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