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Mobius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 10:02 AM
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Poll question: Who REALLY has the best chance of beating Bush in the GE?
Edited on Sat Feb-07-04 10:04 AM by Mobius
Who REALLY has the best chance of beating Bush in the GE?


Let's clear this up. I was not disrespecting anyone.
*on edit, spelling correction of Lieberman*
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tinanator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 10:04 AM
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1. the clear winner, with 100% of the vote
Edited on Sat Feb-07-04 10:04 AM by tinanator
Dennis "The Menace" Kucinich!!!!!!!
-whoops, shoulda typed faster...
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Mobius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 10:05 AM
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3. nice try though
:7
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Duder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 10:04 AM
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2. Other...
Bush will beat Bush.
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diamondsoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 10:09 AM
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4. Thank you, it's very much appreciated.
Also I apologize for insulting you. I just wanted to point out that when you exclude the candidates you don't think will win the nomination, you're not going to get an accurate answer to the question as you posed it.
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 10:19 AM
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5. Where's Carol Mosely Braun? Where's Dick Gephardt?
Edited on Sat Feb-07-04 10:23 AM by arwalden
They have withdrawn just as Lieberman has... and they get relegated to the lowly "other" option?? Well, I never!

This is an outrage! A personal insult! How dare you disrespect me by disrespecting my favorite candidates?!

:hi:

-- Allen

(It just wouldn't be a GD04 poll unless SOMEONE got angry... so I figured it might as well be me. :-))
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Mobius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 10:22 AM
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6. You can please some of the people some...
of the time.....:evilfrown:
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 10:24 AM
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7. LOL... Yep... that's pretty much it.
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 10:31 AM
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8. This guy:
We need someone who votes like Kucinich, talks and looks like Edwards, has the combat experience of Kerry, the cojones of Dean, the intellect of Clark, and the ability to brainwash hordes of college kids like Larouche :)
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Mobius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 10:57 AM
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11. Larouche?
this is a DEMOCRATIC primary . I know you can;t be serious. You aren't serious are you?
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Ruby Romaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 11:11 AM
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18. and we need someone with the...
financial resources & media backing of *!!!!!!
:)
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SadEagle Donating Member (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 10:39 AM
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9. Other: we don't have a clue.
Too much time before the election, many things can happen yet.
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arewethereyet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 10:54 AM
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10. Edwards is the only one left the right is worried about
but vote however you want.
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 10:57 AM
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12. "Worried About" How?
"Worried" because on the off-chance that he wins, he's the most antithetical candidate to the conservative views that they hold so dear... or "worried" because they see him as a real contender who puts their candidate in danger?

-- Allen
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arewethereyet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 11:01 AM
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13. as a real contender who puts their candidate in danger
he is far more difficult to disect than the rest IMO and apparantly theirs.
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dogman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 11:01 AM
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14. He gives good stump
speech. All the pundits say so. You know this terrifies the enemy.
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arewethereyet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 12:03 PM
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25. I'm glad I was not drinking milk
that expression just kills me
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Mobius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 11:04 AM
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15. Not really, I'm sure Rove can dig up plenty of dirt
Edited on Sat Feb-07-04 11:12 AM by Mobius
on a lawyer. I feel Clark is the most feared candidate by the Republicans. It's precisely because they don't have Congressional voting records to spin, or patriotism to try to insult (try being a very important word here). Yet Clark's records on the MANY command decisions he had to make is quite scary to the Republicans.He was right and no one would listen about Iraq. Now they are listening. Finally. And now they will listen to Clark's stand on the issues , and get absolutely terrified.
http://www.clark04.com/issues

*edited to include that Edwards did not know who Rabin was. That will really be blasted at him in an election during a time of war, when foreign policy will be inevitably drawn to the forefront. This is due in part to the fact we are at war, of course, and the fact that Bush's foreign policy/family handouts will, I feel, be a strong if not key issue with which to hang Bush out to dry.*
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arewethereyet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 11:09 AM
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17. the Pentagon vs Clark
who do you think the people are going to believe ?

will the people see the video that the right can play showing Clark's support for Bush et al and take the time to listen to some refutation ?

the lies about White House calls, the flip flops, Michael Moore...

after that, nothing else matters. Credibility shot.
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Mobius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 11:17 AM
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19. the lies about White House calls, the flip flops, Michael Moore...
Edited on Sat Feb-07-04 11:38 AM by Mobius
I will address this in a new thread.
*edited to include this link, where all of your Clark misinterpretaions will be dispelled :) http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=286476 *
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arewethereyet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 11:20 AM
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21. have fun
but the GOP will vaporaize him with these.

they killed Ducakis with a picture of him in a tank, think thay can't make hay with all they've been given ?
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MAlibdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 11:07 AM
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16. Real question being answered:
Who do you want to be the Democratic Nominee
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One Taste Donating Member (636 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 11:18 AM
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20. mhmm that's what I was thinking
:)
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 11:31 AM
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22. I don't think so.
Not for me at least.

My vote would go to Kucinich if I had one, but I think Dean and Clark would be Bush's strongest opponents.
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Bertha Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 12:14 PM
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28. Actually, No. I voted who I think has the best shot to beat Twig.
Senator Kerry.
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LiberalTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 11:38 AM
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23. hmmmmm If Kerry can't even win at DU
How is he going to mobilize the base?
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MessiahRp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 01:33 PM
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30. Mobilizing DU is NOT the Democratic Base
He'll mobilize the base when Dean and Clark get their butts kicked to the point where they have to drop out of the race. Once that happens DUers will realize that the pipedream is over and that they will have to go with Kerry if they want Bush gone.

DU seems to be full of the last people in the world to realize that Dean has no prayer oncesoever and it's all because of his own actions, not the media's.

(Dean was the one who flip flopped on his greatest issue: the war, he came off too angry, he is actually conservative while fooling liberals that he was more left than he was, and he had too many Washington insiders near his campaign when it was all about being an outsider... that and the scream, were all his own doing).

Rp
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magnolia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 12:03 PM
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24. I say Edwards...because:
He's like Clinton without the baggage. His wife is like Hillary without the personal ambition. He's charming while he kicks ass.
(BTW...I love the Clintons.)

Who better to run against a gang of bottom feeders, than a former trial lawyer.

He can win the south.

If he's on the ticket, top or bottom, with a former military candidate, we've got a winner.

We Democrats are a very diversified group. We are not going to agree 100% on any one of the candidates. The only thing we can all agree on is that we want Bush out. Let's use are votes for Congress and Senate to effect issues and our vote for president to get rid of Bush.
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Mobius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 12:12 PM
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27. A President of the United States NEEDS to know who Rabin was...
:argh:
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corporatewhore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 12:09 PM
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26. Kucinich really he got elected to office from OHIO not liberal havens like
mass.He can actually use his record against bush.Old school conservatives like him because he is anti patriot act we can really capitalize on this if we run an anti patriot act cannidate. free trade is hated by the left and right (nobody likes their job going to india!) he really has broad appeal in my kucinich 4 pres group there are liberal democrats old school conservatives libertarians socialists and greens!
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MessiahRp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 01:17 PM
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29. LOL yeah right... Dean...
Dean would be "dead by dawn" to steal a phrase from Evil Dead 2. The people here never cease to amaze me with how loyal they are to the internet fluke.

Rp
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corporatewhore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 01:35 PM
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31. while i dont like dean i think it is wrong to mock his great grassroots
network grassroots is key for ordinary people to propel change
Look at how the anti taco bell campaign took off started in floridia and is now adopted by activists all over the country
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MessiahRp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 01:55 PM
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32. Great Grassroots... um, what grassroots?
I think it remains to be seen if Dean really has anything other than a few internet supporters and Meetup signups to really credit his Campaign for. None of these grassroots people have gotten to the polls and you can have all the people online in the world rooting for you but if they're not voting then they aren't legit.

That's my opinion.

Until he gets these people to the polls for him, the grassroots movement is an empty one.

Rp
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