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elperromagico (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 02:46 AM Original message |
Boy oh boy, that botched Kerry joke hurt us like hell, didn't it? |
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The Count (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 02:47 AM Response to Original message |
1. Tweety actually asked Mccaskill that. Winner mccaskill! |
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pacalo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 02:49 AM Response to Original message |
2. There's no doubt in my mind that Kerry won the presidency. |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 02:50 AM Response to Original message |
3. It was very close to hurting us, and that is the truth |
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elperromagico (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 02:53 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. It's been about as close to a perfect shitstorm for the GOP this year |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 02:54 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. That was my point. Kerry took himself out of the picture by appologizing |
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politicasista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 03:37 AM Response to Reply #7 |
33. He hasn't even talked about 08 |
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churchofreality (545 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 09:20 AM Response to Reply #33 |
54. Lets hope it stays that way |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 09:43 AM Response to Reply #54 |
65. You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but this is all it is: your opinion. |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 09:19 AM Response to Reply #7 |
53. He was going to take himself out of the picture even if he |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 03:00 AM Response to Reply #3 |
9. Right on both counts |
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WildEyedLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 03:24 AM Response to Reply #9 |
18. He had to step back because he was stabbed in the back |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 03:28 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. what is the point, Kerry wasn't up for re-election |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 08:58 AM Response to Reply #20 |
48. The reason for fighting the RW interpretation - which Kerry did |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 03:06 AM Response to Reply #3 |
12. I dunno. I found it kinda motivational myself |
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Hieronymus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 03:19 AM Response to Reply #3 |
15. I agree .. |
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politicasista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 03:22 AM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Yes, keep the most outspoken dem locked up n/t |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 03:28 AM Response to Reply #17 |
22. have you seen how close the election is? |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 09:21 AM Response to Reply #17 |
55. Yeah, he could of been out there driving home the mess in Iraq. n/t |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 03:28 AM Response to Reply #15 |
21. But not his money, eh? |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 09:23 AM Response to Reply #21 |
56. Absolutely. n/t |
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Sensitivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 03:33 AM Response to Reply #3 |
28. Dem were cowardly -- too scared to face-off Bush as they well could. |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 09:24 AM Response to Reply #28 |
57. yeah, Kerry took them on and took a risk- that is true leadership. n/t |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 09:17 AM Response to Reply #3 |
52. No, it wasn't ever going to hurt us. The Dem's overreacted when |
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TheDonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 02:52 AM Response to Original message |
4. oh yea, Kerry just lost the Democrats chances in 06, 08, 10, 12, even 14 with that joke |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 02:53 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Kerry destroyed his chances for 2008 for sure |
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politicasista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 02:57 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Let's just give the man credit for his work in 06 |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 03:01 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. no argument from me on that |
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WildEyedLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 03:22 AM Response to Reply #6 |
16. Oh good GOD why? |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 03:30 AM Response to Reply #16 |
25. you want to know why, because he opens his mouth before he thinks |
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politicasista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 03:36 AM Response to Reply #25 |
32. Name one candidate that is free of mispeak |
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WildEyedLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 03:42 AM Response to Reply #25 |
34. Oh please. Do you know who our current president is? |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 09:01 AM Response to Reply #25 |
49. He actually had relatively few mistatements in 2004 |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 09:27 AM Response to Reply #16 |
61. I couldn't put it better myself. n/t |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 09:26 AM Response to Reply #6 |
60. NOPE! |
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Sensitivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 09:59 AM Response to Reply #6 |
66. jThat is his prob. He certainly did not hurt the Party. Some Dem just acted |
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TayTay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 10:37 AM Response to Reply #6 |
67. Really? Tell NH voters that. |
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txindy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 10:48 AM Response to Reply #6 |
68. Okay. |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 09:25 AM Response to Reply #4 |
58. ROFL N/T |
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twilight_sailing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 03:06 AM Response to Original message |
11. Jesus, |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 03:07 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Remember how Hannity was grinning like a moose |
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MGD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 03:33 AM Response to Reply #13 |
30. I think it just pissed off Americans. It was insulting their intelliegnce |
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Sensitivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 03:16 AM Response to Original message |
14. Kerry truly served the Party selflessly. It was shameful what some did |
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Trajan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 03:26 AM Response to Original message |
19. This is a Non Causa Pro Causa Fallacy .... |
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WildEyedLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 03:30 AM Response to Reply #19 |
24. If you really think anyone who would vote BASED ON |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 03:34 AM Response to Reply #24 |
31. There were vets who were pissed |
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WildEyedLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 03:43 AM Response to Reply #31 |
35. There were vets pissed about the Swift Boat lies too. |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 09:14 AM Response to Reply #31 |
51. Now YOU'RE denigrating the intelligence of our troops! |
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Trajan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 03:59 AM Response to Reply #24 |
37. All small things ..... |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 04:23 AM Response to Reply #37 |
39. You know what's mindbogglingly dense: |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 03:32 AM Response to Reply #19 |
26. Can you guarantee it didn't gain us some votes? |
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elperromagico (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 03:32 AM Response to Reply #19 |
27. No, it's called a joke. |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 07:37 AM Response to Reply #19 |
43. He probably costs us and won us some seats. |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 09:14 AM Response to Reply #19 |
50. It's impossible to prove either way |
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MGD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 03:30 AM Response to Original message |
23. God Bless Haggerd!!! |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 03:33 AM Response to Reply #23 |
29. Yep, knocked Kerry right off the front page |
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Kahuna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 05:59 AM Response to Reply #23 |
41. Right. I saw Haggard as a counter affect to Kerry's speech. So |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 09:29 AM Response to Reply #23 |
62. People didn't vote their morals this time- it was Iraq and corruption. |
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Sensitivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 03:59 AM Response to Original message |
36. Bush attacking Kerry on Network TV was a GIFT to Dems. It nationalized the race |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 09:32 AM Response to Reply #36 |
63. Absolutely. They had better start standing together now and |
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Raine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 04:03 AM Response to Original message |
38. Yeah it sure did |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 04:25 AM Response to Original message |
40. It hurt us... |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 07:35 AM Response to Original message |
42. The GOP blew their hand by overreacting. The vast majority of the country took it for what it was: |
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Apollo11 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 07:39 AM Response to Original message |
44. Ask Tammy Duckworth |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 07:48 AM Response to Reply #44 |
45. I dont know if he will , but I would be happy to see him do that, |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 08:09 AM Response to Reply #44 |
47. Bullshit! |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 09:25 AM Response to Reply #44 |
59. This was never a joke in terms of what the Iraq war was |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 09:37 AM Response to Reply #44 |
64. Oh please, you find one person who lost a race and you blame it on |
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wishlist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 07:49 AM Response to Original message |
46. Common wisdom: A lot worse for Bush to botch a war than Kerry to botch a joke n/t |
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