DEAN supporters and well-wishers only

[Skinner]

This is the official thread for Dean supporters and well-wishers to discuss his performance in the Maine caucus, free of disruption.

If you are not a Dean supporter or a well-wisher, please do not post in this thread. The purpose of this thread is for disruption-free discussion among Dean supporters. Any negative posts by opponents will be deleted by the moderators. We will open up separate threads where supporters of the other candidates can interact without disruption from opponents.

[redsoxliberal]

1. What is a victory tonight?

I'd say anything over 30%.

Thoughts?

[Anwen]

2. I will definitely celebrate 30%+

:)

[bigwillq]

3. I would take 30%

Good luck to Dean and a thank you to all the fellow supporters of the good doctor.

[batman]

68. I was hoping for a win myself.

:(

[not systems]

4. I am feeling optimistic.

Another 2nd or a 1st and the media will have to say the D word again.

The D word being delegates for Dean!!!

Go Dean!!!

[GodHelpUsAll2]

5. I will celebrate 30%

I would prefer to bury Kerry though. He's a tree ent!

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[Anwen]

6. I feel optimistic too!

I know he isn't going to win (even though I've been praying for miracles lately), but I will be thrilled if he makes a good strong 2nd place showing.

GO DEAN!!!!! :D

[redsoxliberal]

7. A precinct in Portland

Just got a report from Portland. Our precinct went 88 for Dean - 88 for Kerry - 54 Kucinich (these are actual votes) that equals 9 delegates for D. and K. and a coin toss gave Dean an extra one!!

No other numbers have come in yet.

GO DR. DEAN!! GO DEAN TEAM!!! GO MAINE!!

Posted by KevinDinME at February 8, 2004 09:15 PM


Dean for America blog

[Anwen]

11. Right on!

Luck must be on Dean's side tonight ;-)

[pezcore64]

9. heck yeah

ill take a strong second!

[MuseRider]

8. Good luck! n/t

[EXE619K]

10. Go get'em Governator!

Draw sabres!

CHARGE!

YEEAAGGGGHHHHH!

:bounce:

[BootinUp]

12. Good Luck to Dean

and Dean supporters...get a win!

[slinkerwink]

13. go Dean!!!!!

[mzmolly]

16. Is there a place we can get the results?

:shrug:

[janx]

24. I don't have the AP link.

Wish I did, though.

[newyawker99]

14. Good luck Dean supporters!!

:bounce:

[GodHelpUsAll2]

17. fingers crossed

and praying. Go Dean Go!

btw it's noce to not have to see all the mean nasty Dean posts in here. It's a virtual Dean Haven! Good Evening all.

[Clark4Prez]

15. Good luck Dean and to all his supporters

I hope Dean does very well, who knows, maybe he'll win it, that will show the know nothing pundits.

Edited to change subject that was the same as the one above it.

[GodHelpUsAll2]

18. Results are on CNN

only 25% reporting so far
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/primaries/pages/states/ME/

[NashVegas]

19. And tonight they even match AP

at least, so far.

[janx]

28. Do you have the AP link?

?

[NashVegas]

30. Here

http://customwire.ap.org/dynamic/files/elections/2004/primaries/by_state/ME_Page.html?SITE=YAHOOELN&SECTION=POLITICS#TOP

[janx]

31. Thanks Crisco!

It's more fun this way.

[Skip Intro]

21. Little off-topic, but did I miss Neel's "surprise" today?

I've been checking my email all day, still haven't seen anything from Neel. Does anyone know what the big surprise today was/is?

Danke.

[NashVegas]

22. Vote

for which of the Switch-to-Dean commercials to use. Kind of overstated, as surprises go, but then I don't see any other candidates offering to let their peeps pick one like that.

[Clark4Prez]

25. Which one did you vote for?

I voted for the first one, with the guy from Mass. I thought it was the strongest.

[Anwen]

27. I voted for Max.

I was torn between the first one and last one, but decided to go for the last one. :)

[DebJ]

29. I voted for that one too. The lady said she was in insurance, and I used

to be in insurance, and I know the looks I got from people when I introduced myself and told them that was my industry, ha! Not good.

[Skip Intro]

32. Thanks

I saw that email, and was thinking that wasn't the surprise. I had read some pretty earthshaking rumours, so I guess I was expecting something really big. That's why they call them rumours, eh?

But hey, the commercial vote is something you don't see any other campaign doing. I like it.

:D

GO DEAN!!!

[Redneck Socialist]

38. I thought they were all pretty lame.

I voted for the lady as being the least crappy of the bunch.

[redsoxliberal]

23. We won Portland big

and Kennebunkport (smiles all around :P)

from a Mainer on the Dean for america blog.

[Anwen]

26. That's terrific!!!

Thanks for the info! :)

GO DEAN!!!! :bounce:

[KaraokeKarlton]

33. If Dean took Portland in a big way combined with the other wins I've heard

if Kerry is declared the winner there HAS to be some kind of fix/tampering. Portland is the biggest city in Maine. Dean also won Camden and a coupld of other places I'm sure of. I also heard that another of the larger towns was leaning heavily towards Dean. Even in the places Kerry won that I heard first hand reports from were extremely close. We need to be watching things closely. I counted up just the delegates Dean won from the caucuses DUer's attended and it was 8 delegates. That's NOT including Portland or Kennebunkport.

[NashVegas]

34. If It Turns Out

That 90% of the precincts are reported and it stays there for 24 hours, I'll just scream.

[Anwen]

44. I know what you mean...

:(

Did they EVER finish reporting the last precincts in Washington??

[SadEagle]

45. That's what I want to know. AP still has like 50 precincts outstanding.

I mean, WTH is up w/that?

[Anwen]

48. Yes, but we mustn't bring it up...

you know, sour grapes and all. :eyes:

God, this is infuriating! :(

[slinkerwink]

52. I know!

[joshcryer]

53. Yeah! Apathy about vote counting is really crap!

How can anyone in a democracy disregard votes like is done?

[slinkerwink]

55. we need total confidence in our votes, and I frankly don't have

much confidence in our votes this election year.

[Anwen]

56. Neither do I.

:scared:

Is there nothing we can do? I just feel helpless.

[milkyway]

35. AP just projected Kerry the winner. CNN has not projected yet. nt

[janx]

36. With 259 of 649 precincts reporting ?

I'm sure this boils down to basic math, but on the surface it doesn't seem to make sense.

[milkyway]

37. Yes, and CNN just projected it for Kerry also. If they have exit polls,

it's pretty easy to make a projection. They just first have to make sure the actual vote totals coming in are close to what their exit polls show. Once they verify the accuracy of the exit polls, they can make the call.

[janx]

40. So they just stop counting now?

Also, AP has not posted the exit polls. There's a place for them, but nothing is there.

[Guaranteed]

39. Dean got 26%- that's another solid second place.

Three solid second places in a row, plus second in delegates. At this point, Dean is Kerry's strongest opponent.

[slinkerwink]

50. that's true.....

[milkyway]

41. Once again, Kerry can not get the majority of votes in his own party...

The media has anointed Kerry and told the voters he's the guy to vote for, but the anti-Kerry vote wins again. Kerry ran almost unopposed in Michigan, and still could only get half of the Dem voters to vote for him (Dean made a few campaign stops, but had zero ads; Edwards and Clark didn't even bother to compete in Michigan). Kerry's support is very weak. He is yet to be seriously vetted by the media or public, and this may not happen until after he wins the nomination. Repugs/media are holding back on him until he wins. The repugs ran anti-Dean ads in Iowa to stop him--why no anti-Kerry ads?

[NoPasaran]

42. Well, another second place

I want a win dammit.

I'm starting to feel like this I'm in training to be an Astros fan again this year.

[Anwen]

43. Deja Vu

Ok, so 50% are reporting. Have they counted the big cities yet? Or are we doomed for an exact repeat of Washington? :(

[janx]

46. It sounds the same to me.

Honestly, why don't they just tally the votes and report them when they're all in?

[Anwen]

51. I wish they would do that

because the constant changing of percentages is annoying and the "projected winner" with only 7% of the votes is beyond frustrating.

[joshcryer]

54. The worst part is how the delegates are swayed by this.

To the point that they don't care about accurately counting the votes. At first I thought "early returns" were okay as long as they occured after the polls closed, but Washington has shown us that this is not the case, and that we should wait until after the votes themselves are tallied (at least in the case of subjective caucuses), otherwise people may be swayed unnecessarily.

[RetroLounge]

47. So half the Democrats voting want someone else

other than Kerry. Hardly the mandate the media wants us to believe.

Go Dean!

I hope he doesn't quit after Wisconsin, but stays on Kerry's back all the way until he passes him in Delegates.

I think it's making the Dems stronger candidates.

[slinkerwink]

49. exactly!

[Skip Intro]

57. Its almost 1am (ET), why are we still at only 50% reporting?

I seem to be asking this a bit lately, but am I missing something?

:shrug:

[janx]

58. I've been wondering the same thing.

So have people on the DFA blog.

[slinkerwink]

59. we still haven't heard the FULL results of WA, and now Maine?!

What IS going on? How come only 50% have reported, and that's been the report for the past four hours??!?!

[janx]

60. There must be some kind of problem.

322 precincts have reported. 327 have not. And it has been hours.

[Skip Intro]

61. Power lines down? What could be the problem?

Computer malfunction? That's scary.

Seriously, what could be the problem? Are they still counting?

Nothing I can imagine makes sense for the halt in reporting results. Well, nothing above board, anyway.

And, as slinkerwink said, all of WA hasn't been reported yet.

This in an age where pictures from Mars can be placed on the net within minutes.

Something smells.

[janx]

63. I have no idea what's going on, but it has been hours.

It would be nice not to have to rely on CNN and AP for information at this point.

[LosinIt]

62. Pretty laid back in Maine, maybe they went to bed

will count the rest in the morning next to the woodstove over coffee? What gives?

[janx]

64. I'm feeling pretty laid back myself and am probably going to

go to bed.

Nobody seems to know what's going on.

[janx]

66. They DID go to bed! Look at this!

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/04040/271039.stm

""Party officials noted the major city of Portland, where Dean was expected make a strong showing, had not yet reported its results when the count ended for the evening. The state party said it would resume the count this morning."

[WonderGrunion]

69. I'm from Maine

They have two staffers and 4 volunteers doing all the work of counting over 17,000 caucus votes. They decided to go to bed and hit it again in the morning. We take it slow in Maine. :hippie:

[LosinIt]

67. Gee, I was only kidding. Better that they give an accurate count though

Fingers crossed here.

[janx]

65. Check out the latest posts at the blog. They're funny!