I'm a Wisconsin resident, and I need convincing

[Archae]

What do I need convincing on?
Who do I vote for in the upcoming primary.

So WITHOUT slamming the other guys, convince me of who I should vote for, and why.

[lcordero]

1. what are the issues that most concern you?

[Archae]

2. Iraq, church/state separation, tax cuts to the rich

In other words, just anything Smirk keeps screwing up.

[LiberalBushFan]

3. Assuming you're choosing between the top 4

Iraq eliminates Edwards, maybe Kerry.

So if you want someone who can actually stop Kerry, I'd choose between Clark and Dean. Clearly both would keep church/state separate even if it requires a fight, and both would repeat tax cuts to the rich. I personally think Clark is the strongest leader and the most attractive candidate.

[goodhue]

6. DK will be in top 4 in WI

Will likely beat Edwards and Clark there just as he did in WA & ME.
Also, note that former WI gubenatorial candidate Ed Garvey has endorsed and supports Kucinich.

[robbedvoter]

4. On separation of church ans state Clark is passionate, firm

kerry seems to think it's only for the afterlife:

Later, at a black church, Kerry said there should be a separation of church and state in America "but not in our lives."
http://www.nynewsday.com/news/sns-ap-kerry,0,3356964.story?coll=nyc-topnews-short-navigation
On IWR, kerry, Edwards voted for, Dean - biden Lugar, Clark -was advising congress BEFORE vote to keep checks & balances


Kerry + W vs Constitution, Clark, Byrd, Welstone, Kennedy (IWR)
http://robbedvoter.forclark.com/story/2004/2/1/84318/48694

I can dig something on separation of church and state - re Clark - but I am hoping you remember the thunderous applause he got at the last debate when he spoke on it.

[robbedvoter]

8. Article from wingnuts - Clark back in Septemver?

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=34733



Wesley Clark on church and state

Posted: September 23, 2003
1:00 a.m. Eastern

© 2003 WorldNetDaily.com

Wesley Clark is clearly the man to watch in the
Democratic
presidential primary.

Two days after he announced his candidacy, a
Newsweek poll
had him leading the pack of 10 Democrats seeking
the White
House.

While the nation has been engulfed in a debate
about
church-state relations this summer, Clark was
sounding off in a
radio interview about the subject.

Here's what he said on WGCU 90.1, a public radio
station in
southwest Florida:

Well, I am concerned like many people
are. I grew
up believing that the whole ... one of
the basic
principles in our country is that we
would keep
church and state separate. And this is
because
everyone is entitled to freedom of
religion, and that
is why people came to America in the
first place. ...
And we learned that in order to have
freedom of
religion, you've got to protect the state
from the
church. You don't want an established
church that
we're all being taxed to support, or at
least that's
the way it was put then. But it's a
little more
complicated than that. I think that it is
a wonderful
thing for people to have values and
religious, their
religious faith, and I certainly have
mine. But I
think that it is better for our democracy
and better
for our religion if we keep the two
separate.

Wingnuts rebuttal follows.

[cheezus]

7. If you're voting opposition to BUSH

Dennis Kucinich offers the strongest contrast and sends this message to the Democrats that be: We are the opposition party. Start acting like it.

[lcordero]

9. Kucinich/Iraq

The following is the only detailed plan from any candidate for President that will quickly bring all U.S. troops home from Iraq.


The United States must ask the United Nations to manage the oil assets of Iraq until the Iraqi people are self-governing.

The United Nations must handle all the contracts: No more Halliburton sweetheart deals, No contracts to Bush Administration insiders, No contracts to campaign contributors. All contracts must be awarded under transparent conditions.

The United States must renounce any plans to privatize Iraq. It is illegal under both the Geneva and the Hague Conventions for any nation to invade another nation, seize its assets, and sell those assets. The Iraqi people, and the Iraqi people alone must have the right to determine the future of their country's resources.
The United States must ask the United Nations to handle the transition to Iraqi self-governance. The U.N. must be asked to help the Iraqi people develop a Constitution. The U.N. must assist in developing free and fair elections.
The United States must agree to pay for what we blew up.
The United States must pay reparations to the families of innocent Iraqi civilian noncombatants killed and injured in the conflict.
The United States must contribute financially to the U.N. peacekeeping mission.
The United Nations, through its member nations, will commit 130,000 peacekeepers to Iraq on a temporary basis until the Iraqi people can maintain their own security.
U.N. troops will rotate into Iraq, and all U.S. troops will come home.
The United States will abandon policies of "preemption" and unilateralism and commit to strengthening the U.N.

Please remember that Iraq isn't just a "war issue", it is a corruption, cronyism, corporatism, racism, lying, stealing, ethnic cleansing, crime, poverty, and injustice issue.


http://www.kucinich.us/issues/iraq.php

[lcordero]

12. Kucinich/taxes

http://www.kucinich.us/issues/taxes.php

On Dec. 8, 2003, Dennis Kucinich introduced in Congress the Progressive Tax Act of 2003, a bill that reforms the tax system to provide needed relief to workers and families.

The 2001, 2002, and 2003 Bush tax cuts have created a tax system that favors the wealthy over the working class. These tax cuts have complicated the tax code with more loopholes and have saddled the federal treasury with record deficits.

In response, Kucinich has introduced a bill that creates a more fair, simple, and adequate tax system. The Progressive Tax Act of 2003 gives $87 billion per year to people with modest income and families in the middle class. The bill collects an additional $107 billion per year from the Bush tax cuts, corporate tax loopholes, and other tax giveaways. The bill therefore raises a sum total of $20 billion per year that remains available for deficit reduction or new spending.

[pezcore64]

13. here ya go

Here is some stuff for Howard Dean! (Im just going to provide links, that way you can look at anything specific you want)


IRAQ:

http://www.deanforamerica.com/site/cg/index.html?type=page&pagename=policy_statement_foreign_iraq


ECONOMY/TAXES

http://www.deanforamerica.com/site/cg/index.html?type=page&pagename=policy_statement_economy



Also, check out the other issues. You can find that on the left hand menu on the deanforamerican.com website.

Goodluck choosing! there are some great people in the race!

[cheezus]

5. A vote for Dennis Kucinich is a vote that makes the nominee better

Dennis Kucinich has a proven record of doing the right thing. He has consistantly stood up for progressive values, especially when it wasn't popular. He was the only one who voted against the Iraq war. Dennis grew up in poverty and worked hard to win the respect of his neighbors, turning a mostly republican district into a democratic stronghold. Champion of the people, Dennis fights against the monied interests.

Major Campaign Points

Not for profit, single payer health coverage for ALL Americans
Withdrawl from unfair trade agreements
Guaranteed Quality Education, Pre-K through College
Environmental Renewal and Clean Energy

for more info see: http://www.kucinich.us/issues/

Dennis Kucinich is the candidate that offers the clearest contrast to the current administration, and thus is OUR BEST CHANCE TO BEAT BUSH

I will admit that his chances of winning the nomination look slim at this point, so why should you vote for him? Your vote won't be wasted. Unlike other candidates who will drop out or scamble to garner the VP slot, Dennis is in this for the long haul. He has a very solid strategy of collecting delegates all the way up to the convention. The more delegates Dennis gets, the more the democratic nominee will look like Dennis Kucinich (and will hopefully BE Dennis Kucinich). This will help the democrats be a real opposition party, and not just Bush-lite.

[LiberalBushFan]

11. Getting a different nominee makes the nominee better

Even if Kucinich gets 49.9% of voters to agree with his views, Kerry won't adopt those views until he reaches 51.1%. We need someone who can stop Kerry (and who's sufficiently different from Kerry to make stopping Kerry worth the trouble).

[cheezus]

15. No, Kerry will just flipflop to the right side

And what, you're saying Clark can stop Kerry but DK can't. Yeah, right.

[Duder]

10. Go see the doctor...

http://www.deanforamerica.com/

[Warpy]

14. Vote for the guy

...who best represents your own views, not the guy you think will win against Bush. The primaries are the only arena we still have where we can express our own views and preferences. Use it.

After all, there will always be plenty of morons out there who will vote based on looks, charisma, hair, or "winnability."

[cheezus]

16. Use this website to help!

Minnesota public radio's Select-A-Candidate
http://news.mpr.org/features/2004/01/01_newsroom_selectapres/

has you answer some questions on your views and matches you up with a candidate.