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AwakeAtLast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 10:45 AM Original message |
Rangel on Face the Nation "I will introduce a bill for the draft" |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 10:46 AM Response to Original message |
1. Draft never works. The high and mighty always get out of it somehow. |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 10:48 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Exactly! The Dan Quayles and George Bushes will join champagne outfits |
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AwakeAtLast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 10:49 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. That may be true, |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 11:34 AM Response to Reply #1 |
24. If I recall correctly from the last time Rep. Rangel proposed this... |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 11:37 AM Response to Reply #24 |
26. I don't want difficult. I want impossible. |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 11:45 AM Response to Reply #26 |
27. I want to travel at the speed of light. |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 11:49 AM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Oh, I knew you were agreeing. :^) Just saying I want to see |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 11:51 AM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Don't we all? |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 11:55 AM Response to Reply #30 |
31. This isn't about perfection for perfection's sake, for me. It's a selfish thing because |
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flordehinojos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 10:50 AM Response to Original message |
4. i wish rangel would not. |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 10:53 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. I am scared of the draft, myself. I have 2 kids, young now, but who could |
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flordehinojos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:28 PM Response to Reply #5 |
39. war is horrible ... |
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springhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:41 PM Response to Reply #5 |
45. I have a 15-year old, |
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LiberalArkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 10:53 AM Response to Original message |
6. It could be written as 2 years national service. The important thing |
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MichiganVote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 10:56 AM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Yeah sure. And service with the Nation. Guard=weekends and two wks a year |
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tritsofme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 10:54 AM Response to Original message |
7. Bad politics, I can see the ads now |
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1monster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 10:59 AM Response to Reply #7 |
11. The reason it gets lost in the background is that our children are too |
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hughee99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 11:01 AM Response to Reply #7 |
14. Exactly, IMHO, this is idiotic... |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 10:55 AM Response to Original message |
8. He's right -- if you support the war, send YOUR kids! Or go yourself, if |
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bullimiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 10:58 AM Response to Original message |
10. my problem with it is WE DO NOT SUPPORT THE WAR so why would we want |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 11:00 AM Response to Original message |
12. I like Rangel, but... |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 11:01 AM Response to Original message |
13. I see this as getting people to take to the streets to protest the war. |
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Greeby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 11:10 AM Response to Original message |
15. Last time Rangel brought such a bill up in 2004 |
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Virginia Dare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 11:11 AM Response to Original message |
16. It is the quickest way to end the war...n/t |
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A Simple Game (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 12:51 PM Response to Reply #16 |
32. Exactly! |
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loyalsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:57 PM Response to Reply #16 |
49. I agree |
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tsuki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 11:11 AM Response to Original message |
17. Rangel is correct. Right now, the war only touches a small |
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MichiganVote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 11:17 AM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Actually the war in Iraq is a very personal thing in small towns |
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tsuki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:40 PM Response to Reply #18 |
44. Maybe in small town America, but not here. The people here (and |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:57 PM Response to Reply #44 |
48. So true. "Why should I pay school taxes when I don't have any kids in |
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tsuki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 09:04 PM Response to Reply #48 |
52. Exactly. My husband is Canadian. In the 1960s, he went to trade |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 11:29 AM Response to Reply #17 |
22. bullshit, the rich or those with influence still would get out |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 11:23 AM Response to Original message |
19. this is wrong-- the draft is military slavery, involuntary servitude... |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 11:26 AM Response to Original message |
20. Fuck Charlie Rangle |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 11:28 AM Response to Original message |
21. Draft spawn of Bush supporters first. |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 11:31 AM Response to Original message |
23. He is trying to make a point, BUT THE POINT IS WE SHOULD NOT BE THERE |
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beth9999 (138 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:21 PM Response to Reply #23 |
37. If that's the case... |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 06:30 PM Response to Reply #37 |
51. you and I are on the same page my friend |
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MichiganVote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 09:22 PM Response to Reply #37 |
53. Welcome Beth and IMO, you are right! |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 11:36 AM Response to Original message |
25. I really dislike rangel. |
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Larkspur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
28. Draft Joe Lieberman's kids!!! |
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DianeG5385 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 01:51 PM Response to Original message |
33. My son is 17 and it chills my blood to think of him drafted |
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Finder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:05 PM Response to Original message |
34. A draft would prevent wars of choice like the one in Iraq... |
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MichiganVote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:17 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. Standing armies guarantee standing wars |
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Finder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:35 PM Response to Reply #35 |
42. Even without a draft we always have a standing army. n/t |
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MichiganVote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:38 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. And we average a war every 8-10 years. |
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Larkspur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:20 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. I don't know if it would prevent them entirely because Bush wasn't |
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Finder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:34 PM Response to Reply #36 |
41. Exactly, scrutiny is what would have prevented the debacle...n/t |
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Fleshdancer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:28 PM Response to Original message |
38. I'm really torn up over this one |
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MichiganVote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:33 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. The only argument is when and where to begin a withdrawl. |
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Fleshdancer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:50 PM Response to Reply #40 |
47. You're absolutely right |
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gulliver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:48 PM Response to Original message |
46. That's going to scare the hell out of lot of people. |
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Larkspur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 03:13 PM Response to Original message |
50. Maybe Rangel's Draft bill is a way to counter McCain's Send-in-more-troops |
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Az_lefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 10:28 PM Response to Original message |
54. If we had the draft right after 911 we wouldn't be Iraq today. |
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