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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 12:07 PM Original message |
The Donkey In The Room: Wes Clark 2008 |
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pstans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 12:09 PM Response to Original message |
1. With Feingold out, Clark is one that I am seriously looking at |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 12:13 PM Response to Original message |
2. Kerry/Clark '04 would've won |
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The Count (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 12:45 PM Response to Reply #2 |
12. Dem ticket WON in 2004 but didn't have the guts to fight for it |
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indepat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 09:44 PM Response to Reply #2 |
56. If not on ticket, Clark for Secretary of Defense, but Dems must first win and Clark |
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BlueIris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 03:28 AM Response to Reply #2 |
65. I'm now pulling for a Kerry/Clark '08 ticket. |
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notadmblnd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 12:17 PM Response to Original message |
3. Clark would be my pick |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 12:23 PM Response to Original message |
4. Gore/Clark |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 12:40 PM Response to Reply #4 |
10. True, but it would keep him out of the oval office for a long while |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 02:53 AM Response to Reply #4 |
64. oh how you know what I feel... |
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OKNancy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 12:24 PM Response to Original message |
5. Tom, I don't think Clark could have a better |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 12:25 PM Response to Original message |
6. So true, Tom! |
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notadmblnd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 12:34 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Oh yeah, his background alone tells us he's a strong leader |
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renate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 09:57 PM Response to Reply #6 |
57. Clark's learning curve was practically vertical, he picked things up so fast |
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democrank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
8. Somehow Clark and netroots supporters |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 01:08 PM Response to Reply #8 |
18. He also heroically tried to save passengers from a fiery wreck in Yugoslavia. |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 12:39 PM Response to Original message |
9. Shh, let them keep ignoring him. It's way too early and there is nothing to win yet. |
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The Count (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 12:43 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. But they keep building clunkers like Warner, Obama, Biden etc |
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dmosh42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 12:53 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Depends on the internt'l situation in '08 |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 01:13 PM Response to Reply #14 |
19. I know it is a detriment here on DU, but he does have a great deal |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 01:19 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. That will help Clark get elected as the next Democratic President |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 01:22 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Oh definitely, his biggest challenge will be to get through the Democratic |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 01:44 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. Pelosi and Reid like him. That's a start n/t |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 01:57 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. That's good, they have both shown their willingness to buck the authority |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 08:14 PM Response to Reply #14 |
47. Can you imagine GOP not making nat'l security an issue....EVER? |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 04:21 AM Response to Reply #47 |
66. Hi! |
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guruoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 11:22 PM Response to Reply #11 |
59. One of my favorite quotes.... |
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Pithy Cherub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 12:46 PM Response to Original message |
13. CW is changed by the obvious, |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 07:22 PM Response to Reply #13 |
39. This is a darn good read on how CW functions here, Pithy |
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The Count (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 08:06 PM Response to Reply #13 |
43. Dec 2003- he outdid Dean & all in fund raising - they stopped reporting it |
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Dinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-22-06 12:56 PM Response to Reply #43 |
97. I Remember That! |
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Gregorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 12:57 PM Response to Original message |
15. Clark's lack of electoral experience is his advantage. |
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Auntie Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 04:23 PM Response to Reply #15 |
32. I hope your aching head and body are feeling better now. |
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Gregorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 05:10 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. Thanks, Auntie! |
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Auntie Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 09:09 PM Response to Reply #36 |
55. I'm sorry to hear about your migrains...I'm lucky I never had one. However, |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 12:57 PM Response to Original message |
16. I would love to see Clark as our nominee. (eom) |
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understandinglife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 01:02 PM Response to Original message |
17. Superb analysis, cogent presentation. |
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wilt the stilt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
22. Go Duncan Hunter |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 01:43 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. LOL n/t |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:17 PM Response to Original message |
26. Now why would Democrats go against the corporate Pundits' described |
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loyalsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 04:50 AM Response to Reply #26 |
67. Why can't Democrats let go of |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 01:58 PM Response to Reply #67 |
73. Actually, wearing a uniform and winning hasn't been a CW since |
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loyalsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 05:36 PM Response to Reply #73 |
83. Not so unfamiliar.... |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 06:11 PM Response to Reply #83 |
85. I believe that wearing a uniform and going into combat DOES make |
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loyalsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 02:57 AM Response to Reply #85 |
91. Sorry you thought I overgeneralized, but |
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Jai4WKC08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-22-06 05:13 PM Response to Reply #91 |
102. What blatant bigotry |
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smoothdaddyk (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:54 PM Response to Original message |
27. My first post ever... |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:57 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. This is an honor then! Welcome to DU |
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NMDemDist2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 03:04 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. welcome to DU stevie!!! |
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Auntie Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 04:36 PM Response to Reply #27 |
33. WELCOME! WELCOME! WELCOME! to DU! |
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demokitty (83 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 05:16 PM Response to Reply #27 |
37. Excellent points, Tom. Clark is my choice. n/t |
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youthere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 10:54 PM Response to Reply #27 |
93. Welcome to DU Smoothdaddyk. |
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NMDemDist2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 03:03 PM Response to Original message |
29. i like Clark and i think he's our only hope against McCain |
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rocktivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 03:56 PM Response to Original message |
31. Works for me. |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 04:48 PM Response to Original message |
34. Gore, Clark and Edwards are my top picks. Any of those three would make me happy. (nt) |
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The Count (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 08:08 PM Response to Reply #34 |
44. Edwards would have invaded Iraq. Only anti-war candidates for me, than you |
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jen4clark (812 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 04:51 PM Response to Original message |
35. Great piece, Tom! |
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PatrioticOhioLiberal (456 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 05:28 PM Response to Original message |
38. Wes Clark has my vote |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 07:26 PM Response to Original message |
40. I have no interest in discussing his prospects. |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 07:28 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. Why are you in this thread? |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 08:31 PM Response to Reply #41 |
49. See # 48. n/t |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 12:06 PM Response to Reply #49 |
72. No disrespect intended, LWolf |
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PatrioticOhioLiberal (456 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 07:39 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. So you came to this thread, why? |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 08:30 PM Response to Reply #42 |
48. I am just another DUer. |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 08:11 PM Response to Reply #40 |
45. Then wait until it's voting time. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 08:33 PM Response to Reply #45 |
50. Wait for what? |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 08:34 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. You are correct, and so therefore, I disagree with you. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 08:43 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. Heh. |
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fuzzyball (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-23-06 10:27 PM Response to Reply #50 |
109. You are correct and therefore I agree with you...eom |
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Auntie Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 02:53 PM Response to Reply #40 |
76. Well some people here are new and they might be interested in discussing and learning |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 03:21 PM Response to Reply #76 |
80. Right. Democratic Underground is not for group think, |
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Auntie Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 04:51 PM Response to Reply #80 |
81. Funny how different people are. Most people post in a thread |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 06:22 PM Response to Reply #81 |
87. I'll try to explain this one last time: |
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Auntie Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 10:48 PM Response to Reply #87 |
90. Very impressive writing! |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 06:18 PM Response to Reply #90 |
92. That's the place to start |
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fuzzyball (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-23-06 10:32 PM Response to Reply #87 |
110. Does Clark belong to the mormon faith? If he does then |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 08:13 PM Response to Original message |
46. And the media doesn't like to mention him because he's for restoring |
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wiley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 08:34 PM Response to Original message |
51. Wes Clark is currently the only one I trust |
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dae (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 06:43 PM Response to Reply #51 |
89. I agree with what you say about Clark. I am not as |
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Babel_17 (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 08:54 PM Response to Original message |
54. Clark won't fumble the ball |
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Rowdyboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 10:23 PM Response to Original message |
58. Very good piece.....I intend to be in the earliest wave of new volunteers |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 11:49 PM Response to Original message |
60. We probably can't get a real non-corporate, non-imperial candidate |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 11:58 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. Clark wouldn't exactly describe his position that way, lol, but... |
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stillrockin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 11:53 PM Response to Original message |
61. He's my pick, too-- |
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vikegirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 12:59 AM Response to Original message |
63. !!!! |
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StClone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 06:45 AM Response to Original message |
68. The General |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 08:18 AM Response to Original message |
69. This thread is largely about electability. To his credit, Clark speaks about climate protection |
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conning (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 08:22 AM Response to Original message |
70. He has the courage |
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caseycoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 10:18 AM Response to Original message |
71. Thanks to all |
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Infinite Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 02:18 PM Response to Original message |
74. He will be a very strong candidate... |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 02:44 PM Response to Reply #74 |
75. Each and every post dealing with Clark go on to say......Clark and |
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Auntie Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 03:09 PM Response to Reply #74 |
78. What an asset for our country, our world prestige and our piece |
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Dinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 03:01 PM Response to Original message |
77. I Will Be Proud To Vote For Wes Again In 2008! |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 03:12 PM Response to Original message |
79. Great post as usual Tom! |
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Vorta (704 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 04:55 PM Response to Original message |
82. Talk about Christmas decorations before Hallowe'en |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 06:18 PM Response to Reply #82 |
86. Just counted 13 front page threads w/ 9 of the first 20 here about 2008 race |
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Vorta (704 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 06:34 PM Response to Reply #86 |
88. Yeah, this is just the one I landed on eom |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 05:50 PM Response to Original message |
84. You are one of the DU's best writers, Tom. |
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youthere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 10:56 PM Response to Original message |
94. Couldn't agree more... |
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Donna Zen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-22-06 12:25 PM Response to Original message |
95. Did you miss it? |
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annarbor (543 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-22-06 12:32 PM Response to Original message |
96. I'm hoping for a.... |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-22-06 01:03 PM Response to Original message |
98. Clark would polarize the gun issue... |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-22-06 01:38 PM Response to Reply #98 |
99. Clark owns guns, and knows darn well how to use them..... |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-22-06 01:59 PM Response to Reply #99 |
100. I'm aware of that... |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-22-06 03:40 PM Response to Reply #100 |
101. Well, it's never too late for him to "Bone" up..... |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-22-06 08:43 PM Response to Reply #101 |
103. Thank you... |
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KT2000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-22-06 09:38 PM Response to Original message |
104. Clark at the top of the ticket!! |
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Julien Sorel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-22-06 10:27 PM Response to Original message |
105. Clark has a few problems. |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-22-06 10:36 PM Response to Reply #105 |
106. All good points, but I think that Clark can build a network of support |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-23-06 04:49 AM Response to Reply #105 |
107. And also keep in mind that Wes Clark really did help an awful lot |
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PBass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-23-06 09:55 PM Response to Reply #107 |
108. I am strongly favoring Clark at the moment... |
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Dinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-23-06 10:36 PM Response to Reply #107 |
111. I Gave Clark A Mention On Wash. Journal This Morning |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-23-06 11:00 PM Response to Original message |
112. Clark says keep the troops in Iraq. |
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Jai4WKC08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-24-06 07:16 PM Response to Reply #112 |
115. That is of course completely false |
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DeIndoctrinator (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-24-06 01:17 AM Response to Original message |
113. Hey Tom, Opednews.com wants to publish |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-24-06 06:58 PM Response to Reply #113 |
114. Thank you for taking that initiative. |
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DeIndoctrinator (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-24-06 09:55 PM Response to Reply #114 |
116. Cool |
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DeIndoctrinator (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-25-06 10:23 PM Response to Reply #114 |
117. Tom, OpEdNews has published... |
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NV1962 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-25-06 11:29 PM Response to Original message |
118. Good job, Tom. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-26-06 03:13 AM Response to Original message |
119. Yes....very cool! |
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