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cobaindrain (731 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:16 PM Original message |
Rangel needs to back off of this or he's out of the party |
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bowens43 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:18 PM Response to Original message |
1. I agree. This guys a dangerous ass hole. |
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BTG (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 06:09 PM Response to Reply #1 |
38. I guess you'll be voting Green in '08 |
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digno dave (992 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 06:53 PM Response to Reply #1 |
47. asshole, fucking idiot... |
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Ninja Jordan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:18 PM Response to Original message |
2. He means well, but it is foolish politically. (nm) |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 06:42 PM Response to Reply #2 |
40. Sending the message that it's okay to fight this ILLEGAL war is "meaning well"? |
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Ninja Jordan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 07:57 PM Response to Reply #40 |
51. He believes reinstating the draft will result in an end to the Iraq War (nm) |
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BrokenBeyondRepair (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 07:58 PM Response to Reply #51 |
74. what if it doesn't? what if it just provides more troops? more war... |
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Eurobabe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:23 PM Response to Original message |
3. I understand why he has proposed it, but I am not happy with this |
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rocktivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:25 PM Response to Original message |
4. Here's another thread on the subject |
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Hepburn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:27 PM Response to Original message |
5. His draft bill... |
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rocktivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 03:31 PM Response to Reply #5 |
26. The draft bill Rangel proposed PREVIOUSLY had no exemption provisions |
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Kagemusha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 05:23 PM Response to Reply #26 |
33. So indentured service for two years as an alternative to frontline duty. |
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Karatist Preacher (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:27 PM Response to Original message |
6. I totally agree with what he says... |
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Gregorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:29 PM Response to Original message |
7. My guess is he wants to end the war. |
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speedoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:37 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. I think you're right. |
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William Seger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:48 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. Conscription to change opinions? |
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speedoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:58 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Are you intentionally misrepresenting my opinion? |
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William Seger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 03:04 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. National Guard, '69 to '75 |
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speedoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 03:08 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. Then what ARE you advocating? |
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Dhalgren (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:59 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. We are past worrying about ethics vis a vis this country and |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 06:45 PM Response to Reply #19 |
43. A majority of Americans already don't support the war WITHOUT a draft. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 10:32 PM Response to Reply #43 |
61. Exactly. We just overwhelmingly voted against the Iraq war. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 03:05 PM Response to Reply #11 |
21. We lost 30,000 US lives in Vietnam AFTER we began a draft. |
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Gregorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 03:33 PM Response to Reply #21 |
27. Very good point. |
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NoPasaran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 06:30 PM Response to Reply #21 |
39. Points of information |
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speedoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 07:29 PM Response to Reply #39 |
49. Thankyou. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 09:11 PM Response to Reply #49 |
56. I lived through it too |
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speedoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 01:52 AM Response to Reply #56 |
65. I was referring to the incorrect statements you made re. the draft. |
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Dhalgren (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 08:38 PM Response to Reply #21 |
52. The draft was not started during the Vietnam war. It had been in effect since |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 10:27 PM Response to Reply #52 |
59. I should have said |
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Telly Savalas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 04:11 PM Response to Reply #7 |
29. The country is already against the war. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 06:43 PM Response to Reply #7 |
42. Alternatively, it could send the message that DEMS want to kill your kids. |
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ButterflyBlood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 12:44 AM Response to Reply #7 |
64. THE COUNTRY'S ALREADY AGAINST THE WAR |
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indygrl (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
8. He's been saying this for some time now |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 03:06 PM Response to Reply #8 |
22. If the war mongers kids will be subject to the draft, so will MINE. |
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Don_1967 (231 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:32 PM Response to Original message |
9. Republican in sweep in 2008 |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 05:38 PM Response to Reply #9 |
34. do you think repubs are going to vote against reinstating the draft? |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 06:49 PM Response to Reply #34 |
44. Maybe. It'd be a political coup to do so. |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 01:57 PM Response to Reply #44 |
66. but a majority of repubs are supporters of the war |
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lcordero2 (832 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:34 PM Response to Original message |
10. it doesn't pan |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:37 PM Response to Original message |
12. there are much better and more direct ways to end the war.... |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 06:51 PM Response to Reply #12 |
45. No more additional funding. DONE. |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 07:54 PM Response to Reply #45 |
71. Cut funding? THAT will never happen - the dems are afraid of looking like they don't "support the |
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joemurphy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:40 PM Response to Original message |
13. I personally think he's right. But it'll never happen. Relax. |
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ret5hd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:42 PM Response to Original message |
14. He's been saying it for a long time, and NO, he's not out of the party... |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:51 PM Response to Original message |
16. If everybody in the US knows THEIR kids will be drafted, they'll demand an |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 07:55 PM Response to Reply #16 |
72. and don't forget the mercenaries that are getting paid HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS per year to "fight" |
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sallyseven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:53 PM Response to Original message |
17. His aim is to bring the war to an end. |
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rocktivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 03:11 PM Response to Reply #17 |
25. You'd be right if his draft really WAS a draft |
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Gregorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 03:37 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. Yes. Thanks for the update. |
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oasis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 03:08 PM Response to Original message |
23. Rangel was re-elected with over 90% of the vote. He's here to stay. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 04:21 PM Response to Original message |
30. Not that my feelings mean a bucket of spit, but... |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 04:52 PM Response to Original message |
31. I think Charlie looks at the "draft" as a works program... |
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sillyparty (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 05:13 PM Response to Original message |
32. Let's Throw All The Dems Out |
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Cascadian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 10:30 PM Response to Reply #32 |
60. This draft proposal itself will undo the Democratic Party |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 05:47 PM Response to Original message |
35. I'm curious...how do you propose to throw Rangel out of the party |
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salin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 03:26 PM Response to Reply #35 |
68. this sorta caught my attention... |
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lynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 05:55 PM Response to Original message |
36. Why a sequel when his first bill on this was whipped so soundly? |
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fuzzyball (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 06:02 PM Response to Original message |
37. Just imagine all the Freepers in their Army Fatigues and all the Duers as |
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Meeker Morgan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 06:43 PM Response to Original message |
41. As for 'no exemptions' ... |
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Cessna Invesco Palin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 06:51 PM Response to Original message |
46. There isn't going to be a fucking draft. |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 02:10 PM Response to Reply #46 |
67. No shit, Mr Brilliant One. However, it's the spoken word taken at face value |
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Beacho (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 06:55 PM Response to Original message |
48. This is about equity in sharing the burden of war |
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k_jerome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 07:47 PM Response to Original message |
50. what does it mean: he's out of the party? nt. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 08:43 PM Response to Reply #50 |
54. it obviously means the OP believes he/she can summon the power to remove Rangel |
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k_jerome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 10:57 PM Response to Reply #54 |
63. impressive. most impressive. nt. |
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election_2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 08:41 PM Response to Original message |
53. The power is really in Pelosi's hands here... |
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wiley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 08:58 PM Response to Original message |
55. Calm down already. It's been in the news for years already. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 10:34 PM Response to Reply #55 |
62. We don't need a high profile Democrat taking a position like this. |
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Cascadian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 09:51 PM Response to Original message |
57. Well, guys. I hope another Democrat takes Mr. Rangel on in'08. |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 07:58 PM Response to Reply #57 |
73. Sorry - you couldn't be more wrong - I'm all for this one... |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 10:05 PM Response to Original message |
58. The Jets suck. Rangel has a good point |
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Raiden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 03:59 PM Response to Original message |
69. I agree...We don't need this now! |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
70. Chill out - it's BRILLIANT political strategy. |
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