Edwards - strongest Democratic candidate vs. GOP front runners.

[nickshepDEM]

While Clinton and Obama have been cast as the Goliaths of the Democratic field, "when you look at the numbers, they're not the strongest in the general election," said Lee Miringoff, director of the Marist Institute for Public Opinion.

The poll of 951 adults for IBD by TIPP, a unit of TechnoMetrica Market Intelligence, was conducted Jan. 2-4.

"After six weeks of Hillary-Obama, Hillary-Obama, what you have is just further confirmation that Edwards is a major player in all this," said

http://www.investors.com/editorial/IBDArticles.asp?artsec=16&issue=20070105

[Roxy66]

1. He's my only candidate....go Edwards!

[Hieronymus]

2. Great news....

[snowbear]

3. Kewl !

It's good to see other candidates (besides the media's favorite pick in Hillary Clinton.. ) doing well in early polls.

[wanpete]

4. This is great news. I love Edwards and would have loved if he had been at the top of the 04 ticket!

he's definitely got my vote!

[Ninja Jordan]

5. Of the big three (Edwards, Obama, Hillary), he would be the most formidable in a general election.

He is eloquent, quick on his feet, from middle america, great family, no scandals, good record, a great speaker and a populist message.

[BluegrassDem]

8. Edwards would spend the whole fall of 2008 explaining

why he voted for it, before coming out against it. We need a candidate that is voted against IWR or was on record against...i.e. Obama, Gore, or Clark.

[Catchawave]

14. No he wouldn't....

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/11/AR2005111101623.html

[venable]

16. he'd only have to explain to people who are negatively obsessed with him

and want to ignore the realities then and now.

smart democrats will regret, like he does, the vote, will understand the circumstances and thought processes of the vote, and scrutinize his current positions, which are strongly anti-war.

[citizen snips]

24. wait a second

none of those potential candidates held an office during the IWR to vote on it.

[snowbear]

6. Someone over on Gen/Discussion said if U click on Edwards08, you get Hillary's site!

WTF! http://eliteleague.co.uk/forum/images/smilies/duh!.gif

They said if you click on edwards08.com. it now comes up to Hillary's site!

Try it from here -----> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/01/06/click-on-edwards08com-an_n_37997.html

What the hell is that Hillary crew up to?

One week they're dissing Obama... the next week, they're heisting Edward sites??


What on earth are they up to ???

[thatsrightimirish]

7. Welcome to modern political warfare.

Enjoy it!

[jcrew2001]

20. site

I don't really think anyone cares about going to edwads08.com , they just go to johnedwards.com

I think the websites are over-rated. However, I was dissapointed that the KerryEdwards.com guy never sold his site in 2004 - what a stab in the back

WesleyClark.com is sold to some other dude named Wes Clark, but GeneralClark.com is available, who wants to buy it and forward it to Hillary sites, now that would be funny.

[IndianaGreen]

38. Carville sleeps with Cheney's henchwoman

Some of that Dark Force of hers has seep into Carville and infected the rest of Team Hillary.

[greenman3610]

9. I'm not pro or con yet, but Edwards is dynamite on the stump

saw him up close in 04, and he is a rockstar, no doubt.

I could live with him as America's new face to the world.

[Mass]

10. Way too early to be meaningful in any way!

[ngant17]

11. Isn't North Carolina vehemently anti-union?

And how does Edwards get away with being a popular candidate in a state which has one of the worst records for union busting and anti-union activity?

[Catchawave]

12. Go Romney !

:evilgrin:

[ChiciB1]

26. Gotcha.... Jump In Already! n/t

[Catchawave]

30. He already has :))))))

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6737005&ft=1&f=1003

[ChiciB1]

32. Okey-Dokey! My Bad! Part Of My Radar Was Down... n/t

[Inspired]

36. Saw my first Romney for pres

bumper sticker in Des Moines, Iowa the other day. It was the first sticker I've seen for a republican so far.

[citizen snips]

13. K&R

[MindMatter]

15. Where did the "Clinton the frontrunner" myth ever come from?

I have never seen her poll any better than 44% against a GOP challenger. And in her case, she has 100% name recognition. She cannot possibly go up more than a couple of points from there unless pitted against an exceptionally weak GOP candidate. You cannot win an election with 46% of the vote unless Perot will run again.

Forget Hillary. All that talk is being promoted by the GOP-controlled MSM because she is the person they would most like to run against.

[venable]

17. your last sentence nails it

exactly.

the msm wants a paper tiger, and hrc is just that.

[Bjorn Against]

18. I have a really hard time believing Giuliani polls that high...

I don't believe any Republican could poll that high now, and certainly not one who was married to his cousin. What exactly did Giuliani do besides just happening to be in office on 9/11 and standing on the rubble with his bullhorn, scoring political points and failing to tell the people about the toxic debris in the air?

Anyways these early polls are meaningless anyways, the campaign has barely even begun and we don't even fully know who is running yet aside from Edwards and Kucinich.

[Auntie Bush]

19. Summing it up from what I see.....

All Dems against McCain.....All Dems lose....Not good.
All Dems against Romney.....All Dems win.....Very good!
All Dems against Giulani....All Dems lose....Not good.
Edwards has the best chance to beat Giulani..Good.
Edwards comes closest to beating all Republicans.

But, I's like to see this poll repeated a month or two after Clark jumps in and people have a chance to learn about him. I really think we'll see him jump ahead of everyone...including the Republicans!

[jcrew2001]

21. clark

I'm still not convinced Clark will enter the race - maybe Edwards and obama are sucking up a lot of air, but has Clark visited NH and Iowa.

I think BC and Hill will talk him out of running.

It'll be interesting to have him in it, but I'll support the guys who are serious about running.

I think Edwards might be weak against McCain - he'll be attacked for a lack of experience, but McCain may falter.

A Edwards/Clinton or Edwards/Clark ticket might be very powerful.

[Jai4WKC08]

22. Clark has been to both NH and Iowa

Not since the November election, and not near as many times as Edwards has. But he has been there, and has attracted big crowds.

Clark is finalizing his plans now. If he thinks he can win, he'll run. If he doesn't, he won't. It's still on Jan 07, over a year to the first primary, so he has plenty of time.

[Auntie Bush]

28. "Edwards/Clark ticket might be very powerful."

Agreed...it might be more powerful because Edwards may be considered to have more executive experience. People would overlook his lack of military experience with Clark on the ticket.........However, I don't think Clark and Edwards are very "friendly". They both have serious grievances against each other. Who knows though...maybe they can work them out for the good of the country. But, if they did...I'd still prefer Clark as president. He'd make a perfect Commander-in-Chief. His opinion of how to get us out of this ME quagmire would be greatly respected...especially among the military and the rest of the world leaders...whom he knows personally! My problem with Edwards is he isn't enough of an attack dog against this criminal gang in the WH. He's more interested in his agenda for the poor and middle class...which I am too. But, first we have to get out of the quagmire we're in up to our waists. Then we'll be ready for Edwards and Obama to run in 2016. They are both young enough and would be better, wiser and more experienced. They couldn't be beat...if we ever have world peace!

Clark/? is perfect for what we need now! IMHO

I personally think a Clark/Hillery ticket could be good for our country (but not the most likely to win) because Bill would be in the background and the Clintons could travel the world to help regain the world respect we've lost under the bush* idiotic administration. However, I'm not a fan of Hillery, the Southerners don't like her and she could take away votes from the Southern states).

I think a Clark/Richardson ticket would have a great chance of winning a national election because BR has diplomatic experience and is Hispanic...however he isn't very charismatic and maybe he could be made to have some questionable ethical problems. I'm beginning to wonder if a Clark/Obama ticket would be best and then Obama would be in a perfect position to take over the Presidency and the whole country would be used to having a black in high position and even the South would be ready and willing to vote for him in 2016. If Obama runs in 2016 his chances would be iffy and his Presidency/legacy would be less than if he runs in 2016 after being VP for eight years.

Anyway...that is my take on things as we stand now.
I forgot to mention I think Clark is the only one who can beat McCain.

[jcrew2001]

31. Mcain and clark

Yeah i do think McCain has a serious chance to falter in 2 years. Clark may do well in a national election, but he's facing a very crowded Dem primary. I don't think he can win the primary. He really needs to get out there more. Thats why I think the other candidates have a stronger foothold, is that they have held elective office and worked in the govt, so they have a platform to speak from, Sen./Gov. etc.

I just think as a Democrat, the idea of a General doesn't do that much for me. And the fact that he doesn't want to serve as a VP, even if offered the position shows that Clark may not be as committed to winnig the WH at all costs, I surely think that Dems will win the WH with him as VP.

As a general only, Clark has never worked in government, and he'll probably be great as president, but who really knows - he may get frustrated with everything. i also think he should buy www.generalclark.com as his website.

[ChiciB1]

27. I Actually think McCain Is Going To SCREW UP Big-Time....

he's already made some very "flip-floppy" positions and I think this WAR stuff is going to hurt him too!

Plus, he's looking more and more haggard if you ask me. I don't trust him, and I'm not sure the GOP is that "crazy" about him either. They have done for McCain, what THEY have done for Hillary!

We have two years yet!

[Auntie Bush]

29. Good point! n/t

[fuzzyball]

35. The very best Clark can hope for is the VP slot

No elected political office ever, way behind in
fund raising, poor name recgnition, are not the
characteristics of a presidential sweepstakes winner.

[jcrew2001]

37. i agree

I agree - he needs to be a team player and accept the VP spot if offered, for the good of the country.

Generals usually get elected in peacetime - I feel it'll be very weird/police state having a general as president.

[tblue37]

23. Clark/Edwards '08 (eom)

[Auntie Bush]

33. Excellent suggestion ! but,

only the two of them could determine if they could get along and respect one another or if there is too much bad blood between them.
Who knows...maybe the Clarkies and Edwardites are more upset with each other than the two candidates and if they united...we would too...just like everyone united to support Kerry/Edwards. I would be satisfied and happy with almost Clark/anyone...some just a little more than others.

[ChiciB1]

25. I'm Liking this a Lot!! Been Getting Emails From Edwards To Join

up right now. I AM a supporter of his, but will wait just a bit longer before getting rid of money! I'm pretty tapped right now after Christmas, even though I didn't spend much! I gave to other candidates in other states for the last election AND we still have the "thing" going on down here in District 13!

[fuzzyball]

34. I thought it was Barack Obama....until last week

Barack is more dynamic, does not have a loser label
such as Kerry, Gore, Edwards, Lieberman. And Barack
can bring in african-american votes better than Edwards.

[Catchawave]

39. I wouldn't "label" Kerry,Gore, and Edwards "losers"

nor would I group them with Lieberman.

I like Obama and hope he does run! But I dont' see him "more dynamic", it's a long race to be sprinting so early :)