How will Hillary and Obama vote on the Iraq escalation?

[Ninja Jordan]

Is this "the new IWR"?

[Mass]

1. It depends what the bill will be.

If it is the sense of the senate Reid wants, they will vote YES.

If it is the Kennedy's bill or anything close to that, it may be different.

[jefferson_dem]

2. I know how one will vote. He's always been an outspoken critic of the Iraq clusterfuck.

The other one...who the hell knows...?

[blm]

6. Not last June on withdrawal, or June 2005 when Downing Street Memos surfaced.

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[Mikey929]

3. Ploy

You know, this whole escalation thing could be a ploy on the part of the white house to divide the Dems. Make them vote one way or the other on it, to use as a wedge. Some will then be labeled as too right wing, others will be labeled as too soft on terror.

If the Dems can't get behind a unified message, then the hope is that not one single Dem candidate for Pres will get a good foothold.

[blm]

4. More like Kerry-Feingold withdrawal vote. Dem leaders put up a NONBINDING

measure that withdrawal should be a goal some time starting before the end of 2007. They put it up as a CYA measure to appease the base who were urging them to support the detailed and specific Kerry-Feingold withdrawal plan.

13 senators supported K-F then. The other Dems voted only with the watered down toothless measure.

This is the same thing that is happening to Kennedy's bill.

[Deep13]

5. Which way is the wind blowing?

[mzteris]

7. why is it that

all senators are referred to by their last names - except Senator Clinton?

[Ninja Jordan]

9. Because her husband is BILL

[AtomicKitten]

8. It may very well be IWR lite.

The Levin-Reid and Kerry-Feingold bills were nonstarters from the get-go since neither had a snowball's chance in hell of passing (yet some continue to try to argue their differences as if they did), but whatever the Dems come up with with regard to escalation will be the canary in the mineshaft signaling just how serious Dems are on stopping the madman in office.

No doubt this is yet another maneuver to put the screws to the Dems. This may indeed be a do-over of sorts for some (Obama's first go with putting this kind of vote regarding war on record) and we shall see if this time the Dems have the nachos to do the right thing.