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BobcatJH (504 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 06:11 PM Original message |
Barbara Boxer should apologize for nothing |
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BayCityProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 06:14 PM Response to Original message |
1. If Boxer |
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tblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 08:32 PM Response to Reply #1 |
62. Swiftboating, much ado about something that didn't even happen. Boxer didn't insult anybody, and if |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 10:28 PM Response to Reply #1 |
84. Deleted message |
Mr Rabble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 06:15 PM Response to Original message |
2. Thank you Bobcat! Absolutely right. |
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katty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 08:17 PM Response to Reply #2 |
60. NO More Apologies - more RW distractions, whinning as usual |
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tblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 08:41 PM Response to Reply #60 |
63. ACTION: Let's support our Senator. Here are numbers to Call/Fax Boxer, Reid, & the Stupid Media |
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lligrd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 10:04 PM Response to Reply #63 |
79. Email Boxer A Note Of Support |
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cadmium (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-13-07 09:55 AM Response to Reply #79 |
112. Done. |
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cynthia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-13-07 09:28 PM Response to Reply #79 |
136. done |
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Bushies gotta go (331 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 11:25 PM Response to Reply #60 |
88. Abso-freaking-lutely |
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proud patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 06:16 PM Response to Original message |
3. She didn't do anything wrong |
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Stevepol (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 06:27 PM Response to Reply #3 |
17. I saw the video of her comment and it would take a real RW wacko |
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proud patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 07:30 PM Response to Reply #17 |
50. I saw the video too |
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booley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 06:16 PM Response to Original message |
4. Excellent post! |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 06:17 PM Response to Original message |
5. So have they also demanded Alan Keyes apologize for calling gays |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 06:20 PM Response to Original message |
6. NO APOLOGIES EVER AGAIN! |
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NegSpin (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 08:03 PM Response to Reply #6 |
56. No Apologies |
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Spiffarino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 09:17 PM Response to Reply #56 |
71. No apologies. |
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Bicoastal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 06:21 PM Response to Original message |
7. Hit the nail on the head with this (non) issue |
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Diane R (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-13-07 12:31 AM Response to Reply #7 |
93. Our local news ran it this evening. They always support the administration. |
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bluedog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 06:21 PM Response to Original message |
8. did bush?? |
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SusanaMontana41 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 06:53 PM Response to Reply #8 |
33. Great post |
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Der Blaue Engel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 06:22 PM Response to Original message |
9. Frankly, every time the media pulls one of these "outraged" stunts |
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PinkyisBlue (617 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-13-07 12:34 PM Response to Reply #9 |
122. Once again, the "liberal media" is trying to change the focus of the debate. |
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file83 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-13-07 12:42 PM Response to Reply #9 |
124. This isn't just an attack on Boxer - this is a "shot across the bow" - to warn others not |
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BobcatJH (504 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 06:22 PM Response to Original message |
10. Thanks, everyone |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 06:22 PM Response to Original message |
11. Newt Gingrich's 1996 GOPAC memo |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 06:22 PM Response to Original message |
12. I am childless |
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roody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 06:36 PM Response to Reply #12 |
22. Right on! |
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salin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-13-07 07:37 AM Response to Reply #12 |
104. I am not insulted. |
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maggiegault (510 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-13-07 11:23 AM Response to Reply #104 |
118. Me Neither. |
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wryter2000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-13-07 11:29 AM Response to Reply #104 |
119. Ye gods |
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orpupilofnature57 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 06:23 PM Response to Original message |
13. Ben Franklin's American not Roy Cohn's |
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gratuitous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 06:23 PM Response to Original message |
14. "Phony outrage" is all it is |
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Fridays Child (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 06:41 PM Response to Reply #14 |
26. It is the lowest, most cynical and devious attempt to spin someone's words... |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 06:26 PM Response to Original message |
15. these demands for apologies at gunpoint |
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Christa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 06:27 PM Response to Original message |
16. Great post!! |
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ninkasi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 06:29 PM Response to Original message |
18. Perhaps it's time to note |
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ReadTomPaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 07:10 PM Response to Reply #18 |
40. Thank you. Laura Bush should be the one apologizing to Condi over 'childless' jabs |
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Divernan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 10:13 PM Response to Reply #40 |
82. Laura also specifically said Condi had no "supportive friends" |
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Cooley Hurd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-13-07 08:06 AM Response to Reply #82 |
107. What Laura said was mean-spirited! |
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The Wizard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 07:23 PM Response to Reply #18 |
46. The operative words |
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The Wizard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 07:23 PM Response to Reply #18 |
47. The operative words |
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Mira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 09:07 PM Response to Reply #18 |
68. Thanks for posting our First Lady's comments - was looking if someone did. |
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Irishonly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 06:30 PM Response to Original message |
19. Boxer said nothing wrong |
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YDogg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 06:31 PM Response to Original message |
20. phony outrage, just like everything else the republicans "stand" for |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 06:31 PM Response to Original message |
21. Murtha attacked troops/Kerry insulted troops/Boxer insulted single women. Pass the Feign-Feign |
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melissinha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 06:37 PM Response to Original message |
23. Rice's dried up eggs should take a chill pill |
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Psephos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 09:16 PM Response to Reply #23 |
70. Rice isn't the one who needs to chill, it's the RW outrage machine |
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Irishonly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-13-07 11:35 AM Response to Reply #70 |
120. Today She's Whining |
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Psephos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-13-07 01:52 PM Response to Reply #120 |
127. Again, it's the dried-up eggs comment that crosses the line. |
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Irishonly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-13-07 02:15 PM Response to Reply #127 |
129. What dried up eggs comment? |
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maggiegault (510 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-13-07 03:36 PM Response to Reply #70 |
131. Who Said Her Eggs Were "Dried Up"? |
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Psephos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-13-07 04:28 PM Response to Reply #131 |
132. Look upthread at the parent post. |
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maggiegault (510 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-13-07 07:52 PM Response to Reply #132 |
135. Ah, Yes... |
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RevCheesehead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 06:38 PM Response to Original message |
24. Obfuscation is for the weak-minded... |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 06:39 PM Response to Original message |
25. there's no liar in the world like a conservative liar. |
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pwb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 06:41 PM Response to Original message |
27. rice is secretary of state as bush is president of the united states. |
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m_welby (508 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 06:42 PM Response to Original message |
28. It's just SOP for these guys |
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Kerry fan (351 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 06:43 PM Response to Original message |
29. A very good example |
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beachmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 09:40 PM Response to Reply #29 |
76. You said it, Kerry fan. Everybody is defending Boxer, and I |
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Turn CO Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 06:43 PM Response to Original message |
30. Then let's have the Gold Star moms say the same thing to her |
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melody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 06:46 PM Response to Original message |
31. APOLOGIZE? She was far too nice! n/t |
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Pachamama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 06:49 PM Response to Original message |
32. Boxer never called Rice "Childless" - she referred to immediate family, which includes siblings |
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tandot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 06:54 PM Response to Original message |
34. female, 42, childless here - and I totally agree with Boxer |
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iamjoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-13-07 09:03 AM Response to Reply #34 |
108. Childless Too - And I Am Insulted |
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polmaven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 06:55 PM Response to Original message |
35. How that comment turned into an "attack" |
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snowbear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 06:56 PM Response to Original message |
36. Great post, but I wouldn't click on some of those links to save my life! |
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Greg Helmsley (75 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 06:59 PM Response to Original message |
37. Freepers are now calling Boxer "racist" |
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snowbear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 07:11 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. Freepers are COCKROACHES |
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beachmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 09:44 PM Response to Reply #41 |
77. No they're not. They're human beings we disagree with. |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-13-07 12:40 AM Response to Reply #77 |
94. Thanks for reminding us to think before we type. ALL repukes ARE cockroaches. |
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deutsey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-13-07 09:27 AM Response to Reply #77 |
109. "Hotel Rawanda" came to mind immediately when I saw this |
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ReadTomPaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 07:13 PM Response to Reply #37 |
43. If she really were racist, they'd be standing in a line to defend her and vote for her. |
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snowbear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 07:26 PM Response to Reply #43 |
49. There's an old quote that still holds true that goes.... |
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The Wizard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-13-07 10:00 AM Response to Reply #49 |
113. To which of the |
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KingFlorez (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-13-07 01:53 AM Response to Reply #37 |
101. They say whatever is convenient |
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cassiepriam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 07:00 PM Response to Original message |
38. The sociopaths always want the dems on the defensive. |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 07:02 PM Response to Original message |
39. Will she cave? |
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beachmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 09:48 PM Response to Reply #39 |
78. It depends on what the other Democrats do, now doesn't it? |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 10:55 PM Response to Reply #39 |
87. On AA tonight, they said her response was "What I said was appropriate." |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 07:12 PM Response to Original message |
42. PURE Grasping At Straws! If The Lady Is That Sensitive... |
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lady lib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 07:17 PM Response to Original message |
44. K & R. Great job! |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 07:22 PM Response to Original message |
45. Where were they when Laura Bush said Condi shouldn't be |
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RedEarth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 07:25 PM Response to Original message |
48. KR... once again an outstanding post......... |
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connecticut yankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 07:40 PM Response to Original message |
51. As they say |
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LuckyX (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 07:42 PM Response to Original message |
52. Why don't we just |
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erpowers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 07:47 PM Response to Original message |
53. Damn Right |
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danm8r (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 07:50 PM Response to Original message |
54. fight back people! |
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Sherman A1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 07:54 PM Response to Original message |
55. Just as an aside to this... |
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stanwyck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 08:09 PM Response to Original message |
57. Demonizing a liberal woman. Always a strategy when you're |
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Joey Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 08:13 PM Response to Original message |
58. She said nothing wrong n/t |
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vanboggie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 08:13 PM Response to Original message |
59. These RW smears are getting tiresome |
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jelly (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 08:53 PM Response to Reply #59 |
65. We can't be the only ones who see so clearly through |
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Wetzelbill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 08:23 PM Response to Original message |
61. I have a cousin in Iraq, plus several people I know.... |
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Spiffarino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 09:14 PM Response to Reply #61 |
69. I have a cousin there, too |
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Wetzelbill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-13-07 01:51 AM Response to Reply #69 |
100. spot on |
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pdxmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 08:47 PM Response to Original message |
64. Immediate family = parents, kids, siblings, grandkids and sometimes |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 09:01 PM Response to Original message |
66. It seems hideously obvious |
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NightOwwl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 09:07 PM Response to Original message |
67. Rub this in their face every time one of them opens their fat, hypocritical mouth... |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 09:18 PM Response to Original message |
72. Their hypocrisy knows no bounds |
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beachmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 09:27 PM Response to Original message |
73. Distract, distract, distract! That's what this is about. |
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AnnieBW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 09:33 PM Response to Original message |
74. I'm Childless |
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The Count (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-13-07 01:33 PM Response to Reply #74 |
125. I have children. They are NOT in Iraq. Boxer included me too in the group |
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Booster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 09:40 PM Response to Original message |
75. I can't imagine that Barbara Boxer would apologize for this. |
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lady lib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 10:05 PM Response to Original message |
80. That NY Post diatribe reads like it was written by a sixth grader |
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onecent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 10:06 PM Response to Original message |
81. K and R. n/t |
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muntrv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 10:20 PM Response to Original message |
83. The right wingnuts can only talk because they've got no action. |
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kevinbgoode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 10:28 PM Response to Original message |
85. I can't even believe this crap is getting any tread with the media |
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raysr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 10:52 PM Response to Original message |
86. The more they scream about apologies, |
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johnaries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 11:28 PM Response to Original message |
89. Boxer was trying to establish "common ground" and objectivity. |
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Q32 (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 11:40 PM Response to Original message |
90. Rice owes Boxer - and every other Democrat - an apology. |
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California Griz (140 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-12-07 11:45 PM Response to Original message |
91. But they were so hard on Condi |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-14-07 06:59 PM Response to Reply #91 |
139. Snort! |
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EndElectoral (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-13-07 12:26 AM Response to Original message |
92. It's their diversion...Boxer was right on...When you're not making a sacrifice platitudes are easy!! |
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NastyRiffraff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-13-07 01:28 AM Response to Reply #92 |
96. "Diversion" is right |
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LuckyX (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-13-07 01:25 AM Response to Original message |
95. Rich people never go to war |
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byronius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-13-07 01:29 AM Response to Original message |
97. Barbara Boxer is my hero. |
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Eurobabe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-13-07 01:38 AM Response to Original message |
98. Real outrage is that this is already in motion without regards to the will of the people!! |
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Eastcoastdem (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-13-07 01:41 AM Response to Original message |
99. A - FUCKING - MEN!!! |
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mogster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-13-07 05:04 AM Response to Original message |
102. Very rovian method |
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Greg Helmsley (75 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-13-07 06:54 AM Response to Reply #102 |
103. Being called "anti-feminist" can be brushed off |
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mcg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-13-07 09:33 AM Response to Reply #102 |
110. I changed my icon back to boxer.gif to show support, |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-13-07 07:38 AM Response to Original message |
105. Repugs are AFRAID of Boxer - that's why they attack her |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-13-07 07:56 AM Response to Original message |
106. My Letter to Senator Boxer: |
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The Count (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-13-07 09:42 AM Response to Original message |
111. Tokenism - GOP-s last refuge. Condi is the "single black woman" when she'swrong |
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Jade Fox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-13-07 10:08 AM Response to Original message |
114. You know, I doubt that this attack on Boxer will work very well.... |
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Faygo Kid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-13-07 10:28 AM Response to Original message |
115. Goddamn the right wing media orcs. May they rot in hell. |
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DirtyDawg (594 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-13-07 10:33 AM Response to Original message |
116. Actually, Boxer is awaiting instructions... |
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The Count (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-13-07 01:36 PM Response to Reply #116 |
126. uh....this is sarcasm, right? Right? RIGHT????? |
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byronius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-14-07 02:52 AM Response to Reply #116 |
137. That's a ludicrous statement. You must be joking. |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-13-07 10:55 AM Response to Original message |
117. At some point it may be necessary for ugly personal attacks. Let's start |
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Dutch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-13-07 11:38 AM Response to Original message |
121. Of course she shouldn't. All this faux-outrage about what she said is one of the dumbest things |
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file83 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-13-07 12:38 PM Response to Original message |
123. My take on this is much more basic: 1. Boxer stated a fact - she didn't "tease" Condi |
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Babsbrain (536 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-13-07 02:13 PM Response to Original message |
128. Condi Has No Friends |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-13-07 02:19 PM Response to Original message |
130. Everyone, go HERE and WATCH IT |
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fooj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-13-07 05:20 PM Response to Original message |
133. I love Barbara. She represents my state and I am very proud to say that... |
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Tekla West (270 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-13-07 05:41 PM Response to Original message |
134. They had to |
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rambler_american (565 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-14-07 06:14 AM Response to Original message |
138. They didn't miss the point |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-14-07 07:01 PM Response to Reply #138 |
140. True. |
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