Obama made a very good appearance talking with Schieffer

[question everything]

I don't know that he thrilled many DUers with his proposal for a phased withdrawal, but he appeared well thought and articulated.

[Taverner]

1. I have a great phased withdrawl plan

Phase one: get out of Iraq

Phase two: never do something that stupid again

[Warpy]

2. He talks a great fight

but he's been seduced by the dark side.

Lieberman has been his mentor.

[aein]

4. what the hell are you talking about?

[Alhena]

7. Lieberman his mentor? What on earth are you talking about?

These are Obama's own words BEFORE the war started. Sound like Lieberman to you?

http://usliberals.about.com/od/extraordinaryspeeches/a/Obama2002War.htm

I don't oppose all wars. What I am opposed to is a dumb war. What I am opposed to is a rash war. What I am opposed to is the cynical attempt by Richard Perle and Paul Wolfowitz and other armchair, weekend warriors in this administration to shove their own ideological agendas down our throats, irrespective of the costs in lives lost and in hardships borne.

What I am opposed to is the attempt by political hacks like Karl Rove to distract us from a rise in the uninsured, a rise in the poverty rate, a drop in the median income, to distract us from corporate scandals and a stock market that has just gone through the worst month since the Great Depression.

That's what I'm opposed to. A dumb war. A rash war. A war based not on reason but on passion, not on principle but on politics.

[Warpy]

14. That was 2003. This is 2005:

"Lieberman became Obama's mentor when Obama was sworn into the Senate in 2005. They stayed close at Thursday night's event, too, entering the room together and working the crowd in tandem."

http://ex-donkey.mu.nu/archives/166079.php

Yes, I know it's a lousy site, but the story came out 2 years ago and is only in pay-for-view archives.

But it has been mentioned as an aside in a lot of articles like: "As a freshman senator, Vietor insisted, Obama had been assigned Lieberman as "mentor". Read the Hartford Courant and you'll find Lieberman boasting that Obama picked him." from http://www.counterpunch.org/cockburn04242006.html

I don't pick this stuff out of thin air, folks. Obama has been cited by the DLC as one of their 100 leaders to watch.

He looked a hell of a lot better on paper in 2003 than he does now.

[question everything]

16. Why not be his mentor in 2005?

Here is a fresh new senator, and here is an old timer, a former V.P. candidate, clearly part of the Democratic leadership... I don't think that this should be held against him - one way or the other.

[Skwmom]

15. I'm going to have to learn more about Obama.

On the surface he looks great (and I really hope he still does after further investigation).

On edit. To disparage Obama they'll try to link in him with Lieberman (guilt by association). It's the same game they play in trying to link Edwards with Clark, Feingold and Gore (which is really a joke).

[acmavm]

3. He was pathetic compared to Hagel.

[MGD]

5. Obama's chances of being elected President of the U.S. are roughly equivalent

to Ron Jeremie's chances of winning an Oscar award for best performance by an actor. We like to think it's within the realm of possibility but it really isn't.

[bigdarryl]

8. He has a better chance than Hillary because she's a female

[MGD]

9. Sure he does. Keep telling yourself that.

[Cheney Killed Bambi]

6. agreed

solid performance.

[xchrom]

10. i am becoming more impressed with him.

he is so smart -- which more than anything is the thing i'm looking for.

i'm not looking sound bytes or media messages -- i'm looking for the best person who can think intelligently on his/her feet.

the only thing that keeps me skeptical is the lack of experience.

but he is slowly gaining a fan.

[illinoisprogressive]

11. He was never mentored by leibermann. He was mentored by

Paul Simon, the great progressive senator from here and by Durbin.
He hates Liebermann. If you saw his face when Keith asked him about Liebermann you wouldn't question it.
Obama will make a fantastic prez.

[xchrom]

13. did i say he was?

[ellenfl]

12. i find him vague. he is great at obfuscating, imo.

he uses a lot of words to say little. i am still not impressed.

ellen fl