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Hawkeye-X
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Tue Jan-16-07 10:49 AM Original message |
Obama running - a huge mistake, IMHO |
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Nickster
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Tue Jan-16-07 10:53 AM Response to Original message |
1. I'm not sure he's the best candidate either, but how can you say that he needs more |
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Hawkeye-X
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Tue Jan-16-07 10:55 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Well, for one thing, Edwards left the Senate |
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Nickster
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Tue Jan-16-07 11:02 AM Response to Reply #4 |
12. That's all well and good, but Edwards has little experience in foreign policy which as you can |
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Tue Jan-16-07 12:22 PM Response to Reply #12 |
41. Foreign Policy Experience Does Not Seem to Limit a President |
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Nickster
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Tue Jan-16-07 12:27 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. True, but in these times we are going to need a Herculean effort to fix all the foreign |
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WCGreen
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Tue Jan-16-07 01:11 PM Response to Reply #41 |
49. But Barak has been to Hawaii |
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BikeWriter
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Wed Jan-17-07 01:24 AM Response to Reply #49 |
106. Oh, WC! You are good! |
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Bjorn Against
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Tue Jan-16-07 08:28 PM Response to Reply #41 |
93. Neither did Bush, and look where that got us |
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Tue Jan-16-07 01:51 PM Response to Reply #4 |
59. And, Edwards was a trial lawyer before going to the Senate |
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NYCGirl
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Tue Jan-16-07 01:58 PM Response to Reply #59 |
62. Well, Obama wasn't "only a teacher", he was the first African-American president |
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DemBones DemBones
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Tue Jan-16-07 05:10 PM Response to Reply #62 |
82. But he has very limited experience in government and politics, |
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NYCGirl
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Tue Jan-16-07 05:20 PM Response to Reply #82 |
84. So all this isn't enough? |
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DemBones DemBones
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Wed Jan-17-07 02:02 AM Response to Reply #84 |
110. I'm just saying that with more experience |
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Radical Activist
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Wed Jan-17-07 05:42 PM Response to Reply #110 |
142. But your statement was a false one. |
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benEzra
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Wed Jan-17-07 09:16 AM Response to Reply #84 |
126. It's his stance on the gun issue that concerns me... |
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madmunchie
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Wed Jan-17-07 11:50 AM Response to Reply #82 |
131. He has more experience in Government than does Edwards AND |
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Radical Activist
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Wed Jan-17-07 05:41 PM Response to Reply #1 |
141. Because he has other reasons for opposing Obama |
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OregonBlue
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Tue Jan-16-07 10:53 AM Original message |
Actually I agree. Well put. |
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nitpicker
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Tue Jan-16-07 10:57 AM Response to Original message |
7. I agree. |
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BayCityProgressive
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Tue Jan-16-07 10:53 AM Response to Original message |
2. The longer |
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bigdarryl
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Tue Jan-16-07 10:55 AM Response to Original message |
3. The last time i checked to run for President looked like this.... |
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election_2004
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Tue Jan-16-07 10:55 AM Response to Original message |
5. Look on the bright side... |
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Inuca
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Tue Jan-16-07 10:57 AM Response to Original message |
6. Agree about the lack of experience, BUT |
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Bullet1987
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Tue Jan-16-07 11:09 AM Response to Reply #6 |
17. ... |
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venable
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Tue Jan-16-07 11:39 AM Response to Reply #6 |
35. well, Edwards experience is exactly double that of Obama |
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Inuca
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Tue Jan-16-07 03:13 PM Response to Reply #35 |
76. I definitely agree with your last statement |
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beaconess
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Tue Jan-16-07 09:47 PM Response to Reply #35 |
95. Not really |
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bling bling
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Wed Jan-17-07 01:33 AM Response to Reply #35 |
107. Obama=9 years experience in government (state+federal). Facts=more convincing argument. Try google |
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venable
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Wed Jan-17-07 07:35 AM Response to Reply #107 |
122. uh, thanks for the tip, but google not needed |
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madmunchie
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Wed Jan-17-07 12:00 PM Response to Reply #122 |
133. Oh please!!!!!!! Read Obamma's book |
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venable
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Wed Jan-17-07 01:26 PM Response to Reply #133 |
134. car salesman is a little rough, don't you think |
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madmunchie
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Wed Jan-17-07 02:25 PM Response to Reply #134 |
137. Edwards goes on and on about his and basically has so much |
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madmunchie
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Wed Jan-17-07 11:54 AM Response to Reply #35 |
132. Correction: work in Government in an elected polistion - 9 yrs Obamma 6 yrs Edwards |
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k_jerome
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Tue Jan-16-07 11:00 AM Response to Original message |
8. I welcome Obama. nt. |
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Lawrence
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Tue Jan-16-07 11:00 AM Response to Original message |
9. let's see here, where to begin |
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bdamomma
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Tue Jan-16-07 11:01 AM Response to Original message |
10. experienced? do you think bush was experienced for this |
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fuzzyball
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Tue Jan-16-07 01:26 PM Response to Reply #10 |
54. And look at where the inexperienced Bush has brought us |
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bdamomma
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Tue Jan-16-07 01:58 PM Response to Reply #54 |
60. you don't know if Obama would disasterous. |
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fuzzyball
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Tue Jan-16-07 02:05 PM Response to Reply #60 |
64. I also don't know if I would lose at the horse track |
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Doctor_J
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Tue Jan-16-07 08:08 PM Response to Reply #54 |
92. Bush is inexperienced and stupid and arrogant |
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Connie_Corleone
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Tue Jan-16-07 11:02 AM Response to Original message |
11. I think you contradicted your own statement. |
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bigdarryl
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Tue Jan-16-07 11:09 AM Response to Reply #11 |
14. and they start talking in code words like there reading to a kid |
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kstewart33
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Tue Jan-16-07 11:03 AM Response to Original message |
13. I'm glad he's running. A real test for Hillary. |
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wisteria
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Tue Jan-16-07 11:27 AM Response to Reply #13 |
29. Obama nor Edwards are a match for Senator Clinton, she can mop |
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ripple
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Tue Jan-16-07 11:51 AM Response to Reply #29 |
37. Even with all that, |
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fuzzyball
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Tue Jan-16-07 02:08 PM Response to Reply #37 |
66. Hillary and other centrists will rip open Obama's far left voting record in |
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ripple
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Tue Jan-16-07 03:02 PM Response to Reply #66 |
73. I wouldn't be so sure |
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fuzzyball
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Tue Jan-16-07 05:26 PM Response to Reply #73 |
86. The most votes in EVERY election are in the center |
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ripple
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Tue Jan-16-07 10:10 PM Response to Reply #86 |
99. He's to the left of Hillary, but I wouldn't consider him |
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fuzzyball
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Tue Jan-16-07 02:07 PM Response to Reply #29 |
65. You are 100% correct, amigo. |
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InvisibleTouch
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Tue Jan-16-07 11:09 AM Response to Original message |
15. I think he will end up as the VP candidate. |
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BayCityProgressive
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Tue Jan-16-07 11:13 AM Response to Reply #15 |
19. Hillary |
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xultar
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Tue Jan-16-07 11:09 AM Response to Original message |
16. Fuckin PLEASE. And Bush was? Can't a Black man run? |
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GreenPartyVoter
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Tue Jan-16-07 11:16 AM Response to Reply #16 |
22. I wish Cornell West would. |
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Nedsdag
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Tue Jan-16-07 11:25 AM Response to Reply #22 |
27. Well, everyone is entitled to his or her opinion. |
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xultar
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Tue Jan-16-07 11:48 AM Response to Reply #22 |
36. I wish a lot more Blacks would run but let's be honest...Cornell won't win |
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GreenPartyVoter
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Tue Jan-16-07 12:16 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. Depends on the office he ran for.. but maybe he does more good as |
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LSK
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Tue Jan-16-07 01:30 PM Response to Reply #16 |
56. oh I see, now if you dont like Obama you are a racist |
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fuzzyball
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Tue Jan-16-07 02:10 PM Response to Reply #16 |
67. Congreesman Ford is much more qualified black man than Obama |
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Nedsdag
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Tue Jan-16-07 02:29 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. Excuse me? |
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fuzzyball
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Tue Jan-16-07 05:28 PM Response to Reply #68 |
87. Excuse me, I was comparing two black candidates based on |
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Nedsdag
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Tue Jan-16-07 09:13 PM Response to Reply #87 |
94. I guess you're DLC then. |
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fuzzyball
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Wed Jan-17-07 01:08 AM Response to Reply #94 |
103. Yes, and that makes me just as good as any other democrat |
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Telly Savalas
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Tue Jan-16-07 10:13 PM Response to Reply #67 |
100. Qualified at what? |
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fuzzyball
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Wed Jan-17-07 01:14 AM Response to Reply #100 |
104. More Qualified in this sense... |
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Hippo_Tron
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Wed Jan-17-07 03:40 AM Response to Reply #67 |
117. Ford's views on school prayer and gay rights won't resonate with most Democrats |
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fuzzyball
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Wed Jan-17-07 02:43 PM Response to Reply #117 |
138. Good analysis....except Ford has the best chance to win in GE |
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Moloch
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Wed Jan-17-07 02:46 AM Response to Reply #16 |
114. Thank you! Its about time somebody pointed that out... |
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cboy4
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Tue Jan-16-07 11:10 AM Response to Original message |
18. I don't believe it's a "huge mistake." If voters don't think he's |
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mtnsnake
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Tue Jan-16-07 11:14 AM Response to Original message |
20. What good is experience if it makes you a rotten president? |
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SaveElmer
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Tue Jan-16-07 11:15 AM Response to Original message |
21. Lets examine the experience of the last President from Illinois... |
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CalebHayes
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Tue Jan-16-07 11:19 AM Response to Original message |
23. Do you think Lincoln was experienced enough? |
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Pirate Smile
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Tue Jan-16-07 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
24. Judgement is more important then experience. The best option |
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Shadrach
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Tue Jan-16-07 11:22 AM Response to Original message |
25. I like Obama |
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Nedsdag
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Tue Jan-16-07 11:27 AM Response to Reply #25 |
30. How long? |
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Shadrach
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Tue Jan-16-07 11:36 AM Response to Reply #30 |
33. Get at least a full term in the Senate. |
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ripple
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Tue Jan-16-07 11:58 AM Response to Reply #33 |
38. People don't buy into the experience thing |
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Shadrach
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Wed Jan-17-07 07:37 AM Response to Reply #38 |
123. That's a good point... |
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Pirate Smile
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Tue Jan-16-07 06:43 PM Response to Reply #25 |
89. That is the Republicans. Democrats don't give people their turn. A person |
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athena
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Wed Jan-17-07 02:07 AM Response to Reply #25 |
111. He's older than JFK and Clinton were. |
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w13rd0
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Tue Jan-16-07 11:25 AM Response to Original message |
26. Actually... |
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beaconess
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Tue Jan-16-07 09:56 PM Response to Reply #26 |
97. Bingo bingo bingo!!! |
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kentuck
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Tue Jan-16-07 11:26 AM Response to Original message |
28. He's running for VP... |
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Eurobabe
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Tue Jan-16-07 01:58 PM Response to Reply #28 |
61. Yeah they all said that about Clark too |
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truebrit71
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Tue Jan-16-07 11:27 AM Response to Original message |
31. He has the hot hand right now, why not press it? Besides, if it gets Hillary... |
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Auntie Bush
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Tue Jan-16-07 01:23 PM Response to Reply #31 |
52. Doesn't the guy/fool in office prove we need someone with a diversity |
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truebrit71
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Wed Jan-17-07 01:36 PM Response to Reply #52 |
135. Hey, Wesley Clark is still my number one pick..Always will be... |
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Der Blaue Engel
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Tue Jan-16-07 11:29 AM Response to Original message |
32. So don't vote for him |
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Irreverend IX
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Tue Jan-16-07 11:38 AM Response to Original message |
34. It makes sense for him to run now. |
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athena
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Wed Jan-17-07 05:16 PM Response to Reply #34 |
139. You haven't read his books, have you? |
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RaleighNCDUer
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Tue Jan-16-07 12:11 PM Response to Original message |
39. On the contrary, it creates exposure, makes the opposition take |
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Tue Jan-16-07 12:23 PM Response to Original message |
42. He more exprienced than Edwards. eom |
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zulchzulu
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Tue Jan-16-07 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
44. Let him run... |
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Tue Jan-16-07 12:55 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. Clinton did *not* run in 1988 |
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zulchzulu
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Tue Jan-16-07 01:29 PM Response to Reply #47 |
55. Welcome to DU and... |
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GenDem
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Tue Jan-16-07 12:40 PM Response to Original message |
45. I don't know..... |
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Tue Jan-16-07 12:45 PM Response to Original message |
46. I'm glad he's running ! |
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Sir Jeffrey
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Tue Jan-16-07 01:05 PM Response to Original message |
48. We do tend to elect governors to the presidency... |
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Tellurian
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Tue Jan-16-07 06:57 PM Response to Reply #48 |
90. Yes, you're absolutely right.. |
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beaconess
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Tue Jan-16-07 09:59 PM Response to Reply #48 |
98. Nice analysis! |
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AJH032
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Tue Jan-16-07 01:11 PM Response to Original message |
50. how is a retired senator better than a senator? |
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Ninja Jordan
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Tue Jan-16-07 02:56 PM Response to Reply #50 |
72. Agreed. That made no sense. |
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Tue Jan-16-07 01:21 PM Response to Original message |
51. he should not run |
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ripple
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Tue Jan-16-07 01:25 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. Just because YOU have no idea what Obama stands for |
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geiger
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Tue Jan-16-07 02:54 PM Response to Reply #53 |
70. Interesting, the assumptions you are making about me, and you know nothing about me |
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ripple
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Tue Jan-16-07 03:39 PM Response to Reply #70 |
78. You said this: |
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w13rd0
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Tue Jan-16-07 11:06 PM Response to Reply #70 |
101. Ah...how do you know the primaries have... |
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Timmy5835
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Tue Jan-16-07 01:34 PM Response to Original message |
57. Experience? Please.......... |
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Zavulon
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Tue Jan-16-07 01:39 PM Response to Original message |
58. No need to shoot you down here, I agree with you. |
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Norquist Nemesis
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Tue Jan-16-07 02:02 PM Response to Original message |
63. Obama is certainly a charismatic speaker and definitely vulnerable |
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Tue Jan-16-07 02:34 PM Response to Original message |
69. No mistake |
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Ninja Jordan
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Tue Jan-16-07 02:56 PM Response to Original message |
71. Disagree. It's now or never for Obama. |
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AtomicKitten
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Tue Jan-16-07 03:06 PM Response to Original message |
74. He'd be an idiot to ignore this level of momentum. |
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DuaneBidoux
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Tue Jan-16-07 03:11 PM Response to Original message |
75. It\'s NEVER a mistake, in a democracy, to run. It would be a mistake to nominate him. |
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ripple
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Tue Jan-16-07 03:45 PM Response to Reply #75 |
79. That's why Clark would make an outstanding running mate n/t |
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trillian
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Tue Jan-16-07 03:18 PM Response to Original message |
77. Agree with you about BO |
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terrya
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Tue Jan-16-07 04:30 PM Response to Original message |
80. I don't think Obama will say no to VP. |
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DemBones DemBones
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Tue Jan-16-07 05:06 PM Response to Original message |
81. I agree. I don't think he can become our |
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FrenchieCat
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Tue Jan-16-07 05:12 PM Response to Original message |
83. Welcome Sen. Obama and may the best man/woman win...... |
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bluehighways911
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Tue Jan-16-07 05:22 PM Response to Original message |
85. You Clinched it for Obama |
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bcoylepa
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Tue Jan-16-07 05:32 PM Response to Original message |
88. he should run |
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McCamy Taylor
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Tue Jan-16-07 07:05 PM Response to Original message |
91. Run, Obama, run. Everytime a prominent minority candidate runs |
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beaconess
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Tue Jan-16-07 09:54 PM Response to Original message |
96. George Bush has 6 years of the most relevant possible experience one can have to be president |
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BorisTheBlade
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Tue Jan-16-07 11:19 PM Response to Original message |
102. agreed |
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BikeWriter
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Wed Jan-17-07 01:22 AM Response to Original message |
105. Uh, include allied commanders in your exceptions and I'll agree. |
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NV1962
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Wed Jan-17-07 11:38 AM Response to Reply #105 |
130. ...with experience as HEAD OF STATE, and I'm in |
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bling bling
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Wed Jan-17-07 01:37 AM Response to Original message |
108. Obama isn't experienced but Edwards IS? Is this a joke? |
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AtomicKitten
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Wed Jan-17-07 01:42 AM Response to Reply #108 |
109. 8 years in the Illinois State Senate is worth - what - squat? |
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BikeWriter
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Wed Jan-17-07 02:24 AM Response to Reply #109 |
113. He's a bright young man, but not a Presidential contender... |
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AtomicKitten
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Wed Jan-17-07 05:19 AM Response to Reply #113 |
119. not exactly certain where you're going with this |
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BikeWriter
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Thu Jan-18-07 03:05 AM Response to Reply #119 |
145. I'll assure you I am not an (alleged) Democrat! I prefer... |
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Wed Jan-17-07 09:33 AM Response to Reply #109 |
127. Absolutely. There is no other logical explanation. |
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TheDonkey
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Wed Jan-17-07 02:14 AM Response to Original message |
112. wtf! It's a great time to run now b/c his voting record isn't that extensive as if he waited |
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Hippo_Tron
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Wed Jan-17-07 03:11 AM Response to Original message |
115. Truly stellar career in the senate, that's a good joke |
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Hippo_Tron
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Wed Jan-17-07 03:20 AM Response to Original message |
116. How many losing Vice Presidential candidates have been elected President in the 20th century |
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NV1962
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Wed Jan-17-07 03:55 AM Response to Original message |
118. I may agree (or not) on your opinion on the Senator, but... |
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Leilani
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Wed Jan-17-07 05:24 AM Response to Original message |
120. I'm happy Obama is in the race |
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AtomicKitten
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Wed Jan-17-07 05:46 AM Response to Reply #120 |
121. woot |
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Leilani
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Wed Jan-17-07 01:58 PM Response to Reply #121 |
136. "We should be setting off fireworks" |
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MiniMe
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Wed Jan-17-07 07:56 AM Response to Original message |
124. The experienced VP (Gore) was a Senator from 1985-1993 |
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hippiechick
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Wed Jan-17-07 08:30 AM Response to Original message |
125. I agree with you, Hawkeye ... |
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techno-nubian
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Wed Jan-17-07 09:50 AM Response to Original message |
128. You think John Edwards is better? John Edwards is wack. |
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Wed Jan-17-07 05:49 PM Response to Reply #128 |
143. No, no. Edwards has an RFK of the south appeal. |
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Wed Jan-17-07 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
129. If Edwards is running, then so should Obama. n/t |
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Radical Activist
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Wed Jan-17-07 05:39 PM Response to Original message |
140. Your second point is exactly why he should run now. |
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Wed Jan-17-07 11:00 PM Response to Reply #140 |
144. Great point |
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