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Canadian_NewDemocrat
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Tue Jan-16-07 06:22 PM Original message |
Chavez? Hero or Dictator? |
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SaveElmer
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Tue Jan-16-07 06:32 PM Response to Original message |
1. Certainly not a hero... |
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harveyrunner
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Sun Jan-21-07 11:08 AM Response to Reply #1 |
112. Hero AND Dictator. A better dictator than Bush I say. |
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no_hypocrisy
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Tue Jan-16-07 06:34 PM Response to Original message |
2. Just another opportunist using politics to make his way in the world. n/t |
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muntrv
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Tue Jan-16-07 06:45 PM Response to Original message |
3. I question the wisdom of hosting the Iranian leader. We don't need to give |
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1932
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Tue Jan-16-07 10:58 PM Response to Reply #3 |
16. Don't let me catch you in other threads saying that we need to have dialogue |
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muntrv
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Wed Jan-17-07 09:14 PM Response to Reply #16 |
38. WHY NOT? I'm entitled to an opinion just like any other poster. |
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leveymg
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Tue Jan-16-07 06:45 PM Response to Original message |
4. Historical figure |
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scarletwoman
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Tue Jan-16-07 06:47 PM Response to Original message |
5. You know, you *could* just do your own research, and reach your own opinion. |
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Peace Patriot
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Tue Jan-16-07 06:52 PM Response to Original message |
6. Oh, for pete's sake! Please educate yourself...it's very important! |
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Kermitt Gribble
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Tue Jan-16-07 07:06 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Perfectly stated! |
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Poll_Blind
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Tue Jan-16-07 07:42 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. Well-stated, thought-provoking in a non-cliche' way. n/t |
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jwirr
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Tue Jan-16-07 07:57 PM Response to Reply #6 |
13. Very good. *ss and co. hate him because he nationalized the |
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CRH
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Fri Jan-19-07 11:12 AM Response to Reply #6 |
91. Well Said, Thank You, No se va Chavez. n/t |
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pberq
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Fri Jan-19-07 12:11 PM Response to Reply #6 |
93. Excellent post! thank you |
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McCamy Taylor
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Tue Jan-16-07 06:56 PM Response to Original message |
7. Um...how about elected president of Venezuela? I like that one. |
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SOS
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Thu Jan-18-07 12:13 PM Response to Reply #7 |
54. That's what he is... |
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Joe Chi Minh
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Tue Jan-16-07 07:35 PM Response to Original message |
9. Well, Einstein was a thoroughgoing Socialist, so what was good enough |
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Poll_Blind
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Tue Jan-16-07 07:38 PM Response to Original message |
10. A good start is watching "Chavez: Inside the coup" streaming, free, HERE: |
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IndianaGreen
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Tue Jan-16-07 07:49 PM Response to Original message |
12. Chavez is a hero! Bush is a tyrant! |
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otherlander
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Tue Jan-16-07 10:35 PM Response to Original message |
14. Are YOU a hero or a dictator? |
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1932
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Tue Jan-16-07 10:56 PM Response to Original message |
15. Definitely a progressive hero. MSM wouldn't be trying so hard to rework reality |
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Contrite
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Wed Jan-17-07 02:19 AM Response to Original message |
17. Hero |
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Judi Lynn
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Wed Jan-17-07 03:17 AM Response to Reply #17 |
19. Don't give up. Adequate background on Latin American history and current events |
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Judi Lynn
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Wed Jan-17-07 04:36 AM Response to Reply #17 |
21. Correction: disregard my post. I completely misread. Proof I'm "awake" far too late to post. |
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LaPera
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Wed Jan-17-07 03:14 AM Response to Original message |
18. Hero! |
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NV1962
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Wed Jan-17-07 04:12 AM Response to Original message |
20. Neither: simply a brute |
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Judi Lynn
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Wed Jan-17-07 04:41 AM Response to Original message |
22. Yeah, we've had more than enough Chavez threads. No one here will be changing his/her mind. |
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GreenTea
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Wed Jan-17-07 04:53 AM Response to Original message |
23. Hero |
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dad
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Wed Jan-17-07 05:35 AM Response to Original message |
24. The answer is HERO, my friend. |
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jefferson_dem
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Wed Jan-17-07 06:41 AM Response to Original message |
25. Not a hero. Not quite a dictator...yet. |
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bemildred
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Wed Jan-17-07 10:29 AM Response to Original message |
26. How about "Chavez: legitimate elected leader of Venezuela"? nt |
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lojasmo
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Wed Jan-17-07 10:59 AM Response to Original message |
27. Chavez, a good man, has done GREAT things for Venezuela. |
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generaldemocrat
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Wed Jan-17-07 11:15 AM Response to Original message |
28. I don't like Chavez, but that still doesn't mean.... |
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Judi Lynn
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Wed Jan-17-07 11:31 AM Response to Reply #28 |
29. So especially Lula doesn't like Chavez, eh? That's not the information we DU'ers have held all this |
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generaldemocrat
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Wed Jan-17-07 11:41 AM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Lula and Chavez are rivals.... |
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Peace Patriot
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Wed Jan-17-07 12:36 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. That's Paul Wolfowitz's line--that Chavez is "riding" the oil boom and that, |
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generaldemocrat
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Wed Jan-17-07 01:03 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. Has Chavez invested in Venezuelan industry? |
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Peace Patriot
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Wed Jan-17-07 10:36 PM Response to Reply #33 |
41. You're wrong about Peru. The leftist candidate, Ollanta Humala, came out of |
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Judi Lynn
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Wed Jan-17-07 06:03 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. I found a new article you might find interesting, if you've not read it already. |
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PATRICK
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Wed Jan-17-07 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
32. What parameters of judgment? |
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BoneDaddy
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Wed Jan-17-07 07:05 PM Response to Original message |
35. Just because someone |
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Kelly Rupert
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Wed Jan-17-07 07:08 PM Response to Original message |
36. Dictator, ruling through soft power. |
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Judi Lynn
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Wed Jan-17-07 10:25 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. Why don't you post your information about his lack of transparency. |
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Greyhound
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Thu Jan-18-07 12:36 AM Response to Reply #36 |
45. Care to elaborate on the "disregard for transparency" accusation? n/t |
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HiFructosePronSyrup
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Wed Jan-17-07 07:15 PM Response to Original message |
37. I have seen a valid argument against him. |
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ProudDad
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Wed Jan-17-07 10:12 PM Response to Original message |
39. He's neither |
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1932
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Thu Jan-18-07 12:04 AM Response to Reply #39 |
42. He's a hero to the indigenous tribe in the outpost the army sent him to |
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Greyhound
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Thu Jan-18-07 12:20 AM Response to Original message |
43. He's not a dictator and in light of the history of South America's national |
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IndianaGreen
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Thu Jan-18-07 12:27 AM Response to Original message |
44. Confused About Venezuela? |
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Judi Lynn
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Thu Jan-18-07 05:17 AM Response to Reply #44 |
47. Love that Eva Golinger. So glad to see she referred to the massacre |
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paulk
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Thu Jan-18-07 02:27 PM Response to Reply #47 |
59. don't you find it fascinating that Mr. Perez started out as a leftist? |
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Judi Lynn
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Thu Jan-18-07 02:43 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. Let's see that information about Carlos Andres Perez being in danger at the hands |
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paulk
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Thu Jan-18-07 05:53 PM Response to Reply #60 |
75. Hugo Chavez didn't lead the Feb. 27th, '92 coup? |
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Judi Lynn
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Thu Jan-18-07 06:06 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. Provide legitmate information with a link concerning the coup. |
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paulk
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Thu Jan-18-07 06:59 PM Response to Reply #76 |
79. how about you supply information that he wasn't in danger? |
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Judi Lynn
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Thu Jan-18-07 07:28 PM Response to Reply #75 |
82. Don't waste your time attempting to dance around mentally. You'll just get dizzy. |
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paulk
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Thu Jan-18-07 07:50 PM Response to Reply #82 |
84. for someone who is always demanding that others "educate" |
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LittleClarkie
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Thu Jan-18-07 12:38 AM Response to Original message |
46. Devil or Angel, I can't make up my mind... |
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Vidar
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Thu Jan-18-07 08:33 AM Response to Original message |
48. Hero: He asks for powers that Bush just steals. |
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Bridget Burke
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Thu Jan-18-07 08:39 AM Response to Original message |
49. Neither one. |
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Donald Ian Rankin
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Thu Jan-18-07 09:50 AM Response to Original message |
50. Not the former, and certainly not the latter. |
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PeaceProgProsp
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Thu Jan-18-07 12:46 PM Response to Reply #50 |
56. Evidence? |
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Phoonzang
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Thu Jan-18-07 09:51 AM Response to Original message |
51. Thought he was a hero...now i think not. |
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Judi Lynn
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Thu Jan-18-07 12:02 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. If you took the time to do your homework you'd be aware that the "other" |
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ShortnFiery
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Thu Jan-18-07 12:11 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. That's an awful broad brush you are employing ... |
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fuzzyball
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Thu Jan-18-07 12:35 PM Response to Original message |
55. That all depends on whether Venezuela is richer or poorer |
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PeaceProgProsp
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Thu Jan-18-07 12:47 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. Poverty down and more people have health care and education |
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generaldemocrat
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Thu Jan-18-07 12:50 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. Then why is crime up...... |
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Bridget Burke
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Thu Jan-18-07 04:18 PM Response to Reply #58 |
65. Where can we see those crime stats? |
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generaldemocrat
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Thu Jan-18-07 04:38 PM Response to Reply #65 |
68. Stats/Articles here..... |
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Bridget Burke
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Thu Jan-18-07 05:26 PM Response to Reply #68 |
73. Thanks for the information. |
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PeaceProgProsp
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Fri Jan-19-07 06:51 PM Response to Reply #68 |
98. The Kozloff article is good. It answers your questions. |
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PeaceProgProsp
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Fri Jan-19-07 06:48 PM Response to Reply #58 |
97. Chavez inherited one of the most wealth-polarized societies in the world |
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fuzzyball
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Thu Jan-18-07 02:59 PM Response to Reply #57 |
63. playing Robin Hood could help the poor but will the general |
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Judi Lynn
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Thu Jan-18-07 04:40 PM Response to Reply #63 |
69. Playing Robin Hood? You need to spend a little of your posting time on educating yourself, instead, |
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fuzzyball
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Thu Jan-18-07 04:50 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. I dated a woman from Venezuela and that was an education |
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Judi Lynn
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Thu Jan-18-07 05:00 PM Response to Reply #70 |
72. You could use help with your reading skills. I said there's no middle class straining away |
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jarab
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Thu Jan-18-07 02:46 PM Response to Original message |
61. Dictator - loved by DU and his mother. nt |
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roody
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Thu Jan-18-07 07:48 PM Response to Reply #61 |
83. Loved by the Venezuelan public. |
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LoZoccolo
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Thu Jan-18-07 02:48 PM Response to Original message |
62. I would say more of a demagogue than either of those two. |
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Thu Jan-18-07 03:27 PM Response to Original message |
64. World Health Organization |
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Thu Jan-18-07 04:30 PM Response to Original message |
66. scum sucking maggot? |
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happydreams
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Fri Jan-19-07 04:32 PM Response to Reply #66 |
96. You talking to yerself again. |
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malikstein
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Thu Jan-18-07 04:36 PM Response to Original message |
67. Huey Long |
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KansDem
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Thu Jan-18-07 04:54 PM Response to Original message |
71. Funny: President Chavez is referred to as a "dictator" in US Corporate Media... |
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sandnsea
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Thu Jan-18-07 05:29 PM Response to Original message |
74. Advocating suspension of mayors, local govt |
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Judi Lynn
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Thu Jan-18-07 06:07 PM Response to Reply #74 |
77. Post your links. This isn't a gossip page. n/t |
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sandnsea
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Thu Jan-18-07 07:12 PM Response to Reply #77 |
80. You know it's true |
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ProudDad
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Thu Jan-18-07 11:59 PM Response to Reply #80 |
86. Typical right-wing crap |
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jefferson_dem
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Fri Jan-19-07 12:13 AM Response to Reply #80 |
88. Don't you know those are simply biased bits of anti-hugo propaganda promulgated |
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Nederland
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Thu Jan-18-07 06:20 PM Response to Original message |
78. He got lucky |
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sandnsea
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Thu Jan-18-07 07:14 PM Response to Reply #78 |
81. Might not even be true |
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ProudDad
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Fri Jan-19-07 12:01 AM Response to Reply #81 |
87. former chief economist of the Venezuelan National Assembly |
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Geek_Girl
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Thu Jan-18-07 09:18 PM Response to Original message |
85. He was Democratically Elected I don't think he's a dictator |
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rman
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Fri Jan-19-07 02:25 AM Response to Original message |
89. Why do you think Chavez is becoming more authoritarian and unilateral? |
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Moby Grape
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Fri Jan-19-07 08:52 AM Response to Original message |
90. how much does Hugo's Great Society benefits, cost the country? |
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generaldemocrat
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Fri Jan-19-07 11:56 AM Response to Reply #90 |
92. His benefits are sustainable so long as the economy grows.... |
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Judi Lynn
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Fri Jan-19-07 01:31 PM Response to Reply #92 |
94. You can answer a lot of your own questions, and spare yourself misapprehension |
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rman
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Fri Jan-19-07 08:28 PM Response to Reply #92 |
99. The benefits are sustainable so long as the nation generates income |
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booley
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Fri Jan-19-07 04:15 PM Response to Original message |
95. Maybe he's just a guy. |
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rman
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Fri Jan-19-07 08:34 PM Response to Reply #95 |
100. If Chavez were a Pinochet, he'd be supported by the US |
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snowbear
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Fri Jan-19-07 08:41 PM Response to Original message |
101. This is a STRANGE thread .... |
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rman
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Sat Jan-20-07 10:01 AM Response to Reply #101 |
102. Well, the OP did sort of answer his own questions |
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happydreams
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Sat Jan-20-07 05:45 PM Response to Reply #101 |
103. Maybe he was axed by.... |
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DuaneBidoux
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Sat Jan-20-07 07:06 PM Response to Original message |
104. My opinions come from the words of his own mouth. |
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ProudDad
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Sat Jan-20-07 09:14 PM Response to Reply #104 |
106. I see |
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DuaneBidoux
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Mon Jan-22-07 03:35 PM Response to Reply #106 |
113. I am most comfortable with the Swedish brand of socialism. |
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Maestro
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Sat Jan-20-07 09:07 PM Response to Original message |
105. I like his anti-* stance but I am concerned |
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ProudDad
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Sat Jan-20-07 09:21 PM Response to Reply #105 |
107. I think it's up to the "middle class" |
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Maestro
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Sat Jan-20-07 10:12 PM Response to Reply #107 |
108. Again, not everyone participated in that coup. |
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Judi Lynn
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Sun Jan-21-07 04:35 AM Response to Reply #105 |
109. "And now he is attacking Henry (Harry) Ried (Reid)?" Obviously NOT. |
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Maestro
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Sun Jan-21-07 11:01 AM Response to Reply #109 |
111. Hey JudiLynn sorry for getting the spelling wrong. |
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Judi Lynn
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Sun Jan-21-07 06:03 AM Response to Original message |
110. Venezuela dismisses US concerns on Chavez |
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dollydew
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Mon Jan-22-07 04:25 PM Response to Original message |
114. Chavez, A Bridge Too Far? |
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Judi Lynn
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Mon Jan-22-07 05:27 PM Response to Reply #114 |
116. Venezuela has nationalized industries for years. |
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Mon Jan-22-07 04:32 PM Response to Original message |
115. to his people who are not wealthy land owners/corporatists, a hero |
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