Hillary says that if she knew then what she knows now,

[chieftain]

she would have voted against the Iraq Resolution. At least that's what she told CNN in an interview, today. Frankly, Joe Lieberman is about the only Democrat (independent or otherwise) who still supports the failed Iraq policy with the benefit of hindsight.A campaign based on superior insight to Holy Joe is not likely to succeed I have never been very enthusiastic about her candidacy for a variety of reasons.So far she has not improved my perception one little bit.

[wakeme2008]

1. And next she will say If I know then what I know now about Holy Joe

I would not have campaigned for him and stub Ned Lamont...

[LiberalEsto]

2. I heard Joe called Ho-Joe recently

and thought that described him to a T.

[bigdarryl]

3. so she's doing a Kerry when will these politicians learn

This is what Bill Maur was talking about when speaking of Hillary she wants to be all things to all people

[Clark2008]

4. She's also doing an Edwards and Biden.

I think most of these people are flipping their positions on this war faster than a IHOP cook.

[bigdarryl]

6. Clark2008 i agree with you 100% this is why senators don't make good candidates for president

[venable]

15. No, she is not like Edwards, she refuses to admit she made a mistake

when asked today..."So, it was a mistake?"..... (shaking her head)..."I don't think people should use words like that"

compared to Edwards

"I was wrong"


These two are not at all alike.

[kath]

20. So she refused to say those simple words "I was wrong" or "I made a

mistake".

:puke: :puke: :puke:

[Warpy]

8. They need to quit speaking in code

Stupid is good at one thing, speaking code to fundies.

Democrats are notoriously bad at codespeak. Instead of giving that oh so weaselly and nuanced statement, she needs to boil it down into "I voted for the war and I was wrong. I had no idea Stupid would shoot first and ask questions later. The inspections should have been allowed to proceed."

This isn't talking down to people, it's just plain speaking.

The Democrats currently in office and who aspire to the presidency need to learn how to do it.

[Loge23]

5. ...and if the polls suggested otherwise

...so would Hillary's position. I'll pass, thank you.

[AtomicKitten]

7. If that is true ...

she'd be just like Edwards, Kerry, and Biden.

[BayCityProgressive]

9. She has said this for a while now

and I still lump her with Kerry, Edwards ect who have magically seen the light. I will not support them in the primary, but I will vote for them in the general because if Obama doesn't get it, one of them will.

[sandnsea]

11. It's not the same

When Edwards or Hillary say Bush Lied, and sign on to the DSM letter and hearings, then they'll have seen the light.

Kerry has definitely seen how the Bushies lied, although he never backed war to begin with.

[AtomicKitten]

12. correct

Separating Hillary from the rest of the pack of knuckleheads that voted 'yes' is unreasonable. Quite frankly, I find the retraction when polls allow rather repulsive; I'm not impressed.

I have pledged to not vote for anyone that demonstrated epically poor judgment in voting 'yes' on the IWR in the primary, but I too will suck it up and vote for whomever gets the nod in the general.

My fingers are crossed for Gore, Obama, or Clark. I'd mention Kucinich in that bunch but, although I hosted a couple fundraiser for him myself in the 2004 primary, I don't think he's a viable contender.

[sandnsea]

10. She says there wouldn't have even been a vote

Which is quite a bit different than calling this administration liars on the war and war intelligence.

She can't do that because hubby was out there with his big fat mouth egging the war on.

That's why we've got to intelligence hearings people.

[niyad]

13. quite frankly, I have a problem with each and every candidate who says that. After all, just about

every person who was on the net, who could READ, who read something besides the msm, already KNEW that every single thing the lying thugs of this maladministration was saying was a complete and utter lie. 30 million people around the world who hit the streets on 15 feb 2003 knew the lies. each and every person who attended a protest knew the lies.

so my question is, how do we forgive our representatives, who apparently knew less than we did?

[SOS]

14. "If I'd known then what I know now"

I'd have gotten rich in the stock market.

A pallid description of hindsight isn't particularly inspiring.

[RiverStone]

16. Question for you...

The IWR passed the House on October 10, 2002 by a vote of 296-133, and by the Senate on October 11 by a vote of 77-23. It was signed into law by Shrub on October 16.

My question chieftain is this: What did 133 people in the House, 23 people in the Senate, and millions of people protesting the IWR around the world know that Hillary did not (back in 02)?

[oasis]

17. Bush prematurely kicked the inspectors out and began his invasion. We all know now.

Who knew that this would happen? Those claiming to have foreknowledge of these events, please provide us with the final score of the next Super Bowl.

[SOS]

21. In his September 2002 address to the UN

Bush does not even mention the possibility of renewed inspections.
It was clear that Bush did not want any inspectors in Iraq.
Way back in June 2002 Bush introduced his new "doctrine" of preemption in a speech at West Point. That "doctrine" was aimed at Iraq.

You didn't need a crystal ball in 2002 to see that Bush was going to attack.
Did anyone seriously believe that Bush, who has nothing but contempt for the UN, was going to allow unlimited inspections?
He couldn't risk it. The neocons sold the war to the public based on the phony WMD threat.
There was no way in hell they were going to allow Blix to finish his work.

No unusual powers of foreknowledge were needed.

[Pierzin]

18. That is just sad. The UN Weapons Inspector Hans Blix knew....

but the Bushies wouldn't take his (or their) word for it. If a my congressman Jim McDermott could go over there before the invasion and say there were no weapons, why wouldn't anyone beleive him?
I have said the same thing in another post. Iraq had no weapons, crap, none that could even remotely possibly reach half way around the globe to the continental USA.
The selling of the Iraq War is the single greatest pack of lies since Reagan sold the need for a military build-up to end "the Cold War".:crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

[Imagevision]

19. Hillary was so much in supporting Bush .. now the election of course changes this!!