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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 07:50 PM
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I saw Hillary w/ Katie Couric tonight.
I am sorry but everything she does and says looks "focus group tested" and
way too calculated.

She had a "snappy new do" for her hair with blond coloring and highlights but her
"sideburns" (female equivalent of sideburns) were left grey .... In what
I took as trying to project "a mature and thoughtful image."


Maybe I am not the brightest light on God's Xmas tree but I thought the look
is just too freaking planned.






Mary Jo Kilroy for President in 08.


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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 07:51 PM
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1. Would anyone go on national TV without planning ahead of time?
Edited on Mon Jan-22-07 07:52 PM by cynatnite
:eyes:
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Earth_First Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 08:13 PM
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14. I'm ready for MY closeup...
however one might argue that 6 1/2 years constitutes as enough time to plan...
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shirlden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 07:52 PM
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2. I second the Kilroy
nomination.


:toast:
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 07:56 PM
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5. In 04 I worked for Kerry in Ohio
and in 06 I worked for Mary Jo ....

I got an e mail today asking for me to come and help use
my "winning ideas" at some meeting.

:rofl:

I swear I could lose if I bet on a horse race with only one horse running.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 07:53 PM
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3. The main problem I have with people criticizing her looks or style
is would you do the same as if it were a male?

If you are going on a job interview wouldn't you do your hair up nicely even a new cut, put on business attire and put on your interview game persona?

The media is warping peoples view on Hillary and I don't think that it's legitamate....

Dems need to wake up and in the primaries pick the best candidate, whether it's Hillary or whomever we better get our act together...or some Repug will slip into the Presidential role again and this country will be destroyed.

That's all....



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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 07:58 PM
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9. I would object to it if it was a male too.
I know that you have to play the game but this seemed a little
"over the top."

But then again I might be wrong. :shrug:
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 07:55 PM
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4. This is the "big time" now. It's going to be all Hillary all the time.
Personally the whole thing leaves me ice cold, one long run of NAFTA, China, & Welfare reform was enough for me.
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ElizabethDC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 07:56 PM
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6. Her hairstyle was the same as it has been recently
though I really don't think it's terribly relevant to the interview at all.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 07:57 PM
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7. lol
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bling bling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 07:58 PM
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8. As opposed to wash and towel dry, comb back and GO!
Well, she tried that, actually. When she first became a senator the media wrote articles about how much less attention Hillary was paying to her make-up and hairstyle now that she was no longer a first lady.

Man alive. She can't even try to look nice without being criticized. I knew it was this bad, though, can't say I'm surprised. But damn....

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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 08:01 PM
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10. got me wrong
Fine Hill can get her "new do" on as much as she wants

but why not color all the hair? just saying??????????????
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ElizabethDC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 08:22 PM
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22. She probably just hasn't had the highlights touched up recently
that's why.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 08:06 PM
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11. I thought she looked fab-u-lous
Dwayne Edwards and Antoine Marryweather give her three snaps in Z formation.



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terisan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 08:08 PM
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12. Dick Nixon went on tv Unplanned in 1960 debate and lost bigtime

JFK planned his tv debate appearance and won. Reagan dyed his hair. GW Bush costumed himself for image-remember the bomber pilot jacket or the cowboy boots ?

Personally I want leaders with the ability to plan--planning is wise. The problem is what they are planning, not whether they plan.
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Larry in KC Donating Member (465 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 08:30 PM
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23. So you're recommending she following Bush's lead?
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terisan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 01:46 AM
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26. I'm suggesting people who plan are more likely to win and that

anyone can utilize the media to project the image he or she wants. It's up to the viewer to decode. I think Bush gave up on the costumes because they stopped working for him.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 08:10 PM
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13. I'm already sick to death of the "focus" on her looks
It is especially disheartening and superfical coming from other women



Something looking too planned? Give me a fucking break
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 08:15 PM
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16. 2 things
I am a dude

this was not about her looks but about how calculating she seems to be.




Mary Jo Kilroy in 2008
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 08:18 PM
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17. Yes I know you are a dud
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 08:21 PM
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20. D'oh
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 08:30 PM
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24. mmmm........sacksy
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 08:20 PM
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19. um, like john edwards doesn't seem calculated?
well they all are calculated, at their level they better have some sense of what they want their image to be
and the sense to make their image match their true selves.

look at bush, he has his image calculated, but it doesnt match his reality as a war criminal and sociopath.

Msongs
www.msongs.com
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 08:21 PM
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21. What's wrong with being calculating?
This is politics. No politician gets far without that characteristic.
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AJH032 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 02:04 AM
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27. deleted
Edited on Tue Jan-23-07 02:04 AM by AJH032
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rhombus Donating Member (678 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 08:14 PM
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15. It's not her looks, its her trustworthiness that bothers me
Her F.U. attitude to the the base on Iraq until she saw the recent polls, and her walled-in personality turns me off from her.

I can say about Clark, Obama, Richardson, Edwards, even Biden that they seem to have a pulse - a human connection factor. Sorry, I can't say that for Sen Clinton. I really wish I could.
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partylessinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 08:19 PM
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18. And you didn't notice that Katie was vicious towards Mrs. Bill Clinton?
You didn't mention that Katie looked like hell as she does nightly.

Hillary looked much better on NBC Nightly News with Brian Williams sitting at the desk. CBS positioned her in a chair at an angle to look fat.








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athena Donating Member (771 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 01:25 AM
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25. I'm sorry, but anyone who thinks that's "calculated"
is out of his/her mind. What the OP called "sideburns" does not look calculated at all; if anything, it looks like a bad dye job, or a wig worn on top of hair that hasn't been dyed. If she were going for the "mature and distinguished" look, she would have had gray elsewhere.
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AJH032 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 02:04 AM
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28. wow, now her looks are too planned?
what will you guys think of next?
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 02:46 AM
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29. gees, I spend a fortune keeping my hair up, and no tv reporter wants to talk to me.
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