Why no one has figured this out I can't imagine Re: Hillary as early front runner

[Boxerfan]

I thought this would be a perfect posture for the Democrats long ago. Hillary goes out, takes the heat that only she can generate. The pot gets stirred mightilly(Shawn,Rush & every other blithering idiot spent the ENTIRE show bashing her today for example).
All this while our real canidates take notes & prepare for a whipeout after she withdraws.

Not that I don't think she could do the job,she can. She's just radioactive & should use that for the greater bennefit.

[silverojo]

1. She won't withdraw

She won't do anything for "the greater benefit". She'll only act on behalf of herself and her own glory.

That's why we need Edwards, Obama, Clark, or ANYBODY except her to win the nomination.

[northzax]

6. and just whom, do you suppose

all the others are acting on the behalf of? the patry, or themselves?

hint: no one successfully rises to that level in politics, or anything, without serious ego and drive.

[skipos]

10. But some are more about their ego than others. nt

[northzax]

11. or so their marketing would have you believe nt

[skipos]

12. You don't know anything about me.

You know nothing about why I believe what I do.
Remember that.

[northzax]

15. true, I just know you are stating something

that, to me, is patently biased. you accuse a woman who is serving her second term in the Senate to rave reviews, who is one of the best leagel theorists in the country, who observed, close up and hand on, the most effective presidency in the last 30 years of being in it 'just for her ego' while giving someone like Barack Obama, a two year senator with no administrative experience at all, a pass on this. seems strange. and then you cite no references, no experiences, just that she is more in it for her ego than everyone else.

on that I base my opinion of your comments. and you might guess, they aren't held in much esteem until you back them up.

[skipos]

16. Please show me where I

accuse HRC or what you are saying, and give Obama a pass.

[northzax]

17. and what, pray tell

is the implication of your words in post 10? in context, it sure seems like the 'some people' you mention certainly includes Senator Clinton, while seeming to exclude Senators Obama and Edwards. in context. perhaps it was unclear?

[skipos]

18. My implication is that some politicians are driven more by ego than others

Just as I said. I never mentioned HRC, Obama or Edwards. The notion that all politicians have the same level of ego in their campaigns is ridiculous. There are plenty of politicians who bow out of races gracefully, throw their support to other candidates, accept defeat gracefully, etc. There are plenty of candidates who seem to have trouble doing that.

Clear now?

[Erika]

2. Hillary will win

She wouldn't have announced if she couldn't win. Shes got the actuarial studies and pulse. She's only radioactive to Faux type people.

And I'm not even a Hillary fan.

[Blue_In_AK]

3. Maybe

but she seems rather radioactive to many of us here, too.

[Erika]

4. Not when you compare her to the likes the GOP will offer

Like I said, I'm not a Hillary fan but she beats the heck out of anything the GOP has to offer, and the GOP has lost the independents and split their base.

[illinoisprogressive]

5. I've heard alot of compliments and restraint from the right when talking about her

If you listen to the right when they are on the news they say really nice things and that she is great, ect. Talk her up. They hope we will fall for it and go for HRc

[Erika]

7. The right wing blogs have their fangs out

They are really scared of this lady. Add in Obama and they are terrified.

Who are they going to run?

[PATRICK]

9. Compare to their pushing of Joementum

Serious articles in financial publications, complete misunderstanding of personal appeal and the democratic Party, complete reliance on name recognition, fawning over the republican lite dem the same way some are getting giddy about Hagel.

But yes, this also goes with the cynical script and no one has much of an independent political thought on the other side. It's about entitlement, PR and club rules and hoping the Dems will turn into pathetic GOP imitations so they can sleep at night. Hillary is no Joe and HAS a base support unique from the others which has a real effect on the primary scene. It will take more for her to undo these automatics, but depend on her to do it. And there are better people running, which means more than billions and the discredited MSM dumb machine which has a pretty lousy batting average. So lousy that frontrunner status is almost the kiss of death, for it it they who deign to publicly confer the title.

Frontrunner gets you dough, campaign staff and lots of early press- and delusions. It might do for a Senate campaign but not when running against the best of the best fellow Democrats. She is definitely better and more viable than Joe so this will take time and hopefully less heated attacks. There will be surprises and surprises rarely benefit the one with set and immediate advantages.

[SaveElmer]

8. One flaw in your theory...

These over the top attacks on her just make her stronger...always have...

Republcians just cannot help themselves when it comes to the Clintons...

[AtomicKitten]

14. that is the truth

On the day of his impeachment, Bill Clinton as I recall had a 70% approval rating.

The Clintons are like cockroaches, and I mean that in a good way. They are resilient to the jihad waged against them by the GOP Wrecking Machine.

If HRC is to be the nominee, it is unfortunate she will also be battling the jihad being waged against her by the left.

[BlueIris]

13. "She's just radioactive." I love it.

So true.