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Now onto Cooper.
Mr. Libby talks to Cooper on July 12.
Mr. Cooper is bugging Cathie Martin. I want you to answer these questions. On Saturday July 12.
Now talking about his family. Harriet boy and girl of 13 and 10.
Mr. Libby and his family go on AF2, they leave Andrews Airforce Base to Norfolk VA. They fly because a ship is going to be commemorated.
It's a Saturday, it's like his day off.
Mr. Libby goes up to talk to Cheney. Goes up to get a note. The card has been saved. Mr. Libby was supposed to make certain statements refuting Wilson's allegation. And there is not a word on that card about "the wife." Mr. Cooper was trying to keep Libby on the phone. Mr. Libby was trying to get off the telephone. He's got his wife and two kids in the next room. Mr. Cooper says, in an effort to keep the conversation, he throws out this statement. And that's where the dispute starts. Mr. Libby recollected that he just said, I heard that too, but I don't know if it's true. Mr. Cooper says differently. If Mr. Cooper took notes of the conversation. Because Mr. Libby gives information. You will not see in those notes. There's not one word about "the wife." Not one word. not a word about the notes. The notes do not support Mr. Cooper's recollection, at all. Mr. Libby has no notes. For all practical purposes, Mr. Cooper has no notes. Right after he gest off the call with Mr. Libby send an email to his editor. Doesn't say anything about "the wife."
But Mr. Cooper says that Karl Rove had told Cooper about the wife, the day before. It's right there. Mr. Cooper comes back and types a email to his editor. But if you look at the notes about Mr. Libby it doesn't say anything about "the wife."
This suggests Mr. Libby's recolelction is correct.
Onto Judy.
There's no separate count involving Judy Miller.
Unflattering picture of her on the slide.
Quotes. "I'm just speculating," "My memory is fuzzy," "I might have been confused"
Has Wilson's phone number
Got the name of WIlson's wife from multiple source
Libby has a recollection that he said the same.
The only reference to Wilson's wife in Miller's notes of this call reads:
Victoria Wilson works in unit.
She says she might have been trying to trick Mr. Libby.
What you're going to see in terms of all of these conversations.
Russert has no notes.
Cooper's notes do not support his story.
Miller: what few notes she has are extraordinarily cryptic.
"Stay with me for a second."
This whole prosecution is built on a false premise.
This is what Fitz said: What Scooter Libby wanted to do was make up a phony story about Russert, so when he was asked questions about Judy or Cooper, he learned about it from Russert.
"That theory is illogical and intellectually flawed."
On July 11, Mr. Libby is told by Karl Rove that Novak has already written a story. About Valerie Wilson that she works at the CIA.
If Mr. Libby needed a reporter on the 11th so he could say to Miller or Cooper, he didn't need to invent a story with Russert. He heard on the same day that Novak had already written a story.
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Now moves to government witnesses. I don't have time to talk about all six. To show you that their recollection of what happened is not too good either.
Reiterating that Libby never said he first learned about Wilson's wife from Tim Russert.
When Mr. Fitzgerald rolled the screen with all these witnesses you would have thought these people had perfect recollection.
Grenier. Associate Director of the CIA. One of the top people at the CIA. Interviewed in December 2003. Said he did not remember discussing Wilson's wife with Libby.
January 2004, I have no recollection of talking to Scooter Libby about the wife.
A year and a half, after the first interview, he then tells the FBI that he remembers a conversation with Scooter Libby.
The Wife was not that important to anyone. Let's talk about Mr. Schmall. Every day Libby began his day sitting with a CIA agent.
Says his memory was quite poor.
May 27, he finds a note with a name Valerie Wilson. Joe Wilson.
Now his thinking is, though he doesn't recollect the conversation, he must have had a conversation.
Those people have recollection issues also.
Because "the wife" was not that important.
He says he had a lunch with Mr. Libby.
Going-away lunch. Most of the conversation involved football.
You should know in substance, the wife works at the CIA.
When the FBI wanted to talk to Ari, he pled the fifth, refused to testify unless he was immunized.
After being immunized he said he had this conversation with Libby.
While in Africa,
While on the plane he has a conversation with Mr. Bartlett,who is the head of Communications or Bush. Didn't mention to Bartlett about Libby
Right after Mr. Bartlett says to him that "the wife" works at the CIA. Conversations with reporters.
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