A Way Totally CT Flamebait Post - Please do NOT Lock

[seventhson]

At the outset I am saying that this is totally CT. Total Conspiracy Theory Tinfoil hat speculation.

But it deserves a hearing. A voice. A way for those of us who believe it is possible to talk about it.

A Public place where people can call us totally nuts or say wqe are off our meds.

But it needs to be said and discussed. It may be a nutzoid theory - but I am famous here for that (and even oftener I believe I am proven right). I have my flamew retardant suit on and I do not mind being called names.

Here it goes.

Get ready.

As you know I am the son of an intlleginace operative who wroked with the underground(freech resistance) against government orders in WWII.

My father was a Nazi profiler and had to smell spooks thousands of miles away (or in his parlor). He also had to smell sellouts and Nazi collaborators on the US side so that his comrades in the underground would not be betrayed.

I would do this as a poll - but I wanted to rant a little more than usual on it because it has been bothering me a lot in the past few primary dates.


Here we go:

Given the allegations (in the Village Voice) about Sharpton being financed by the right; and

given the allegations that Clark was really a Republican plant sent forth by the Stephens group and other right winf Bush backers when Kerry started to tank; and

given the Skull and Bones spooky connections of Kerry to the Bushes in this "secret order" at Yale;


QUESTION: Is it entirely unreasonable to suspect or fear that the candidacies of Clark (and possibly Sharpton) were intentionally designed to DIVIDE the PACK and thereby split the votes to keep Dean and Edwards from having a real straight ahead shot at the Nomination?

When I look at tonight's numbers I see that fully HALF or more of the people voted against Kerry in the Democratic Primaries.

Clark and Edwards SPLIT Tennessee. If either of them had been ALONE (i.e. without the other) they might have TIED Kerry.

Dean might actually have had a decent chance at winning in New Hampshire.

The whole dynamic of this primary would have been completely different.

That might explain WHY Sharpton and Clark did not challenge in Iowa.

Kerry clearly has the DLC and DNC party in his pocket and in the halls and alleyways getting out the vote. He is the mainstream Party candidate.

But the opposition to the DLC is totally split and so no one can get a fair shot at Kerry.

Maybe it is just life.

Maybe it is not a coincidence.

Maybe I should wear a tinfoil raincoat to catch the ---- that will come my way.

But please do NOT lock this thread and let us all vent and let off some steam.

These primaries are driving this progressive democrat crazy and I need a place to let my hair down.

Even if it gets peed in.

Let 'er rip.

and peace to all.

I WILL vote for Kerry, dammit, if he wins the nom and I will try to help him beat Bush. But I will NOT like it.

(Grunts sulkily)

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[brokensymmetry]

1. I know the BFEE is sneaky...

but...I find it a bit hard to believe that they're as competent as your theory seems to suggest.

After all, General Clark seems like a take-charge kind of guy. Rather independent minded - not at all the kind who would do something like this. I doubt Rev. Sharpton would be willing to do it either.

Isn't it a bit more likely that a lot of candidates sense that (1) we need a change of leadership and that (2) the pResident is vulnerable, and so decided to run?

[LiberalBushFan]

2. I see your father's skills don't run in the family. n/m

[The Magistrate]

3. All That Is Necessary, Mr. Son

Is that you vote for the nominee, against the criminals of the '00 Coup. A smile while you do so is not required....

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"

[Dr Fate]

4. LOL! Why did I know this would be a linkless S & B rant????

You may not believe me Seventhson, but I've grown to love your posts, sincerely. You brighten my DU experience with your nutty, "secret" conspiracies...!!!

[Octafish]

5. So what if Kerry's a Bonesman.

This guy was one, too. He was one of Kerry's best friends from Yale, the "charmer" of the group. His name was Richard Pershing. The grandson of 6-star General of the Armies John J "Blackjack" Pershing. Richard followed in the family tradition and volunteered for duty in the US Army after college. He died while leading his men in combat in Vietnam. Besides being an all-around great guy, Pershing was a bonesman.



There's more info on Kerry's background in the military, as well as how his anti-war thinking developed, in this Atlantic article:

http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/2003/12/brinkley.htm

[Dr Fate]

6. Your version of things does not sound spooky enough...

...S & B posts are supposed to have a spooky, comic-book take on reality. A few Christian Identity links add a nice feel too...

I give you a C-

:) :)

[Octafish]

7. Thanks, Doc!

When facing the real hidden enemy, the Monsters of the BFEE, it's easy to forget who's or what is who or what. Zum beispiel:


The Voting-Machine Industrial Complex

Demonstration Democracy

By BOB FITRAKIS
Counterpunch
September 8, 2003

During the Cold War, the CIA, in the words of long-time agent Ralph McGehee, practiced the art of "deadly deceits." Throughout the Third World, the secret spy agency engaged in covert operations, blatant acts of economic destabilization and wanton acts of mass violence.

In the 1970s, Idaho Senator Frank Church's investigatory committee established that the CIA also engaged in so-called "benign" operations including rigging elections. The agency used the term "demonstration elections"--elections that are superficially democratic but the results manipulated by the CIA.

The Company did everything from stuffing ballot boxes, creating political parties, merging smaller political parties into large coalitions as in Uno in Nicaragua, paying death squads to intimidate voters and the occasional use of computer fraud. In the mid-80s, the Reagan and Bush administration used a computer to help their "man in Panama" and CIA asset Manuel Noriega gain electoral support; they backed dictator Ferdinand Marcos when he brought in the pre-programmed election tapes in the middle of an election to turn his sure defeat into a fixed victory. The people of the Philippines didn't accept the computer results as credible, but Reagan and Bush argued it was necessary to preserve our "traditional" relationship with the brutal dictator. Remember, his political opponent, Senator Aquino was shot to death after disembarking from an airplane to run against Marcos.

Now that we have the son of the former CIA director as President, we should recognize that the more reprehensible tactics of the CIA have been brought home with the Bush dynasty. What George Bush's energy friends from Texas, including Enron, did to the California economy through the massive "mega-watt" laundering of energy should be viewed as just another economic destabilization of an enemy regime.

CONTINUE TO A WELL-DESERVED READ...

http://www.counterpunch.org/fitrakis09082003.html