Isn't it time to stop kidding ourselves about Kerry?

[mot78]

While Kerry may seem strong right now, the media is just treating him with kid gloves, hoping to narrow the field until he's the last man standing. Then, once Kerry becomes the nominee-apparent, Kerry will get "Gored" like there's no tomorrow.

[PROGRESSIVE1]

1. Whoever the nominee is will get "Gored"!

Don't single Kerry out.

[nankerphelge]

2. Here's hoping...

all of them stay in the race as long as possible.

[jpgray]

3. If Kerry's the standard, everyone's been lightly treated

Kerry got blasted in the beginning, Dean got overexamined in the middle, Kucinich and Clark got laughed at ignored in the end.

But yes, the RW media have not yet begun to smear.

[calimary]

4. Not entirely sure about that.

Chris Matthews said today on MSNBC, amidst all the AWOL bru-ha-ha, that at the very least, Kerry's very presence is gonna be a big fat pie-in-the-face reminder to everybody that - here's a guy who went to Vietnam and served THERE, and saw combat THERE, and got decorated for it, compared to bush, who's done none of that, and THAT part of it does NOT make for a favorable comparison for bush.

Besides, we've seen the kid glove treatment given to bush for several years, and ONLY NOW are reporters starting to be confrontational and even combative (judging from the performance today among the White House press corps). They may keep pounding on this, and may leave Kerry alone and cut him some slack. Especially if this scandal resonates with viewers/readers/listeners. If they don't like how bush wimped out, then the press will bend that way, too. They're getting feisty with the bushies because they smell blood in the water, and they can read the writing on the wall. When they thought everybody liked bush and wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt and not push him too hard or demand too much of him and that it was unpatriotic to do so, they bent the OTHER way. Times have changed. And they may be changing with 'em.

[seventhson]

5. Ed Rollins on CNN was pracxtically orgasmic that Kerry is the frontrunner

Reagan's old campaign chief said they WANT Kerry because he is the WORST of the Dems and the easiest to make look bad.

I have been telling you all.

[BigBigBear]

6. 20 + years in the Senate

They are going to spin his voting record to death.

At this point, I'm afraid you're right. I think the Democratic establishment went with a familiar face and underestimated, again, how viscious the other side will be.

Clark could have moved the party forward, to new places and old places. Kerry represents establishment.

[Nicholas_J]

15. Clark is old establishment

A General who has suported and advised the military policy of severla presidents. Dont know why Clarrk supporters like to conveniently forget that fact. He woerked directly for the whicever White House resident was commander in Chief. Ad a General is a very, very, political position.

[KC21304]

10. And the farmer hauls another load away !

I saw Ed Rollins too, just the same old GOP recitation. Nothing new. Why don't you give it up man ?

[Catherine Vincent]

20. I've heard that said about all the democratic candidates.

Sigh!

[OHdem10]

17. "they are getting feisty----"

Last evening on CNN I think Paula Zonn had a guest on(Journalist0
who put it this way. The Media have reached the point where they have given themselves permission to be skeptical after giving Pres. Bush a pretty soft ride.

Tonight Lois Romano(WP)was on Aaron Brown's program. She seems most knowledgeable on this Awol Story and explained what the documents do not show. She specificallly descibed the kinds of Military Records that are needed for proof. She says this story is not over citing the heated press coference with Scott MCClelland and the fact there journalist all around searching out information. The journalists at the press conference were not satisfied with the answers they received.

[TheStateChief]

7. Sorry For My Other Post...

you summed up my concerns well...I too am concerned that Kerry is staking it all on being a Vietnam hero and not enough people know about his voting record. Max Cleland was handing Hannity his lunch tonight until Hannity - after getting Cleland to acknowledge that national security should be as important an issue in the GE as the economy - rattled off a list of weapons systems we wouldn't have if Kerry had his way in the Senate. Cleland had a very poor response, IMO, that underscores Kerry's vulnerabilities. As I stated in the other thread, I'll vote for Kerry in the GE if he gets the nomination, but Kerry's going to have to come up with a believable response to his actions in the Senate if he expects to win.

[bowens43]

11. You greatly over estimate the importance placed

on military experience, hero or otherwise. Kerry's voting record other then IWR is good. The more liberal then Kennedy. Nothing wrong with opposing weapons systems. The US spends FAR too much on it's military. The US military is supposed to protect our country, not police the world. Defense needs BIG cuts , the sooner the better.

[TheStateChief]

13. I'm hoping

that I'm UNDER-estimating the importance of serving in the military since it looks like Kerry is going to be carrying our flag. Also, I'm not saying that his votes were good or bad - but voting against the cruise missile and stealth bomber (two weapons systems that I'd venture most Americans know well given their frequent use over the last six years) will be taken by Bushco as supposed evidence that Kerry would make us a lot less safe. I'm also not saying that these attacks WILL stick unless, of course, Kerry doesn't come up with a strong defense of his past positions.

[KC21304]

16. You mean those Cruise missiles that missed their targets

most of the time in Gulf War I and the stealth bombers that were not very stealth ? I think we found out that neither one of these systems were a bargain when the truth was finally told. I think Kerry may welcome that attack.

[bhunt70]

8. I agree there will be a "Gore-ing" but

I think you guys are underestimating the perception many regular every day people have about the current idiot in office.

[bowens43]

9. Yes , it's all the media.

Clark is doing poorly becuase of the media, the media selected Kerry, the media cast the votes , the media,the media,the media,the media,the media,the media,the media,the media,the media,the media,the media,the media,the media,the media,the media,the media,the media,the media,the media,the media,the media,the media,the media,the media,the media,the media,the media,the media,the media,the media,the media,the media,the media.....................

[gate of the sun]

12. Yes the media selected Kerry

and few seem appalled by this or even suspicious though in every other way people are appalled by the media and suspicous...it's a funny thing.

[BeFree]

14. Kerry actually gets his support from the established politicos

Yeah, the media has yet to do any real damge to Kerry. Or Bush, for that matter. Kerry has the support of most of the in-office party members across the US. That's a lot of powerful Dems.

[AngryWhiteLiberal]

18. Bush...Kerry. Either way we're screwed. Establishment Wins.

Well, get ready for 4 more years of NO SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE in our government...corporations win again.

I'm sitting this one out.

JB

[Uzybone]

19. Yawn

then we should vote for Bush. He is the only guy who will not be "gored".