After Kerry has dropped outWho Do Progressive Dems have Left?

[KoKo]

Kucinich is top of my List of DECLARED CANDIDATES. But...I'm waiting and have hope that Gore will throw in to the fray.

What do the rest of you think?

[Smarmie Doofus]

1. I'm leaning Obama but I'm hoping others will enter. n/t

[GreenArrow]

2. Kucinich

and Gravel, basically.

[Auntie Bush]

3. I'm waiting for Wes Clark to throw his name in the meat grinder.

And grind all the other candidates into hamburger.

Weeeeeelllll...not really!

[GreenPartyVoter]

4. Always Dennis. :^)

[jen4clark]

5. Hey, Koko.

Sorry your guy isn't running. Just remember all the good he will do for us in the Senate!

If you haven't ever checked out General Clark's policy papers, you should. He is a liberal, and proud of it!

This is a cached link to his '04 site:

http://web.archive.org/web/20051201093926/www.clark04.com/issues/

I checked a couple of the pdf links and they still work.

And this is his current site -- WesPAC - Securing America:

http://securingamerica.com/taxonomy/term/3

[KoKo]

7. I really like Gen. Clark...but I have same problem with him as with Edwards

in that they lack experience in "local elected government" that would qualify them when they get into the Washington, DC whorehouse of Media and Special Interest/Lobbyists and dealing with the Public that's they've not had alot of experience with on the "local scene."

But, hey...I try to keep open mind and figure that so many others have let us down who've HAD EXPERIENCE in local governance...maybe we ought to look beyond. I'm not on the Obama bandwagon because the Corporate MSM loves him and Hillary so much..though.

[NCarolinawoman]

10. Clark

He's a progressive who has worked in the Pentagon. If I can remember correctly, he was in charge of strategic planning under Clinton. (Well, I guess that is not exactly local government. LOL.)

Much earlier, he worked in the OMB under Ford. That was because of his degree in economics and because he taught economics at West Point--not cause he was a Republican :)

One of the things that is unique about Clark is that he really wants to do something about the Military Industrial Complex. He has said that he knows where all the "sKeletons are buried". You just don't hear anybody else talking about this issue. Well, perhaps Dennis K., but I think it's going to take a General/President to actually tackle this; hardly anybody else would have the guts or know-how.

[jen4clark]

14. found it!

Hillary = the press


by ms in la -- posted at kos

http://www.dailykos.com/comments/2007/1/18/73945/4794/55#c55


I posted this data a few weeks ago at General Clarks blog - CCN.

A Clinton- Corpress love affair

Who's the Number One recipient of media contributions in 2006 cycle?:
_______________________________________________

Media donations in general
Hillary Clinton

Media donations to all Senators
Hillary Clinton

Books/ magazines/ newspapers
Hillary Clinton (receiving 3 times the #2 recipient)

Cable TV
Hillary Clinton (receiving over 2 times the #2 recipient)

TV/ Movies/ Music
Hillary Clinton (recieving 4 times the #2 recipient)

TV / Radio stations
Hillary Clinton (the other 4 of the top 5 are all Republicans)

Communications/ Electronics
Hillary Clinton

TV Production
Hillary Clinton

And in the year 2000-- she was NUMBER 2 in Media Donations to ALL recipients following #1: Al Gore.

All data from opensecrets.org

http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/recips.asp?Ind=B02&Cycle=2006&recipdetail=A&Mem=N&sortorder=U

My Theory:

Imagine you are a corporate press mover and shaker, a "decider"-- with an agenda to maintain the corporate status quo in Washington and the world at large, and a big budget to help get you there.

Imagine you are repeatedly reminded by Rovian whispers in your ear who to keep in office, who to newly elect in order to insure that plan was forever viable and intact.

When the right wing of the bird is broken and flailing... you need to prop it up, make it look better. Best way to do that is to make the left wing look worse.

Imagine you had all decided (you and your cohorts in the corp press) that the best and perhaps only way to insure that your guys stay in power and survive a left wing coup at a time when you're polling is at its nadir, would be to mightily endorse the candidate for Pres on the other side the least likely to succeed... the most polarizing, and - because you're in Infotainment- the one who would also provide the most entertainment value whilst being swifted. Guaranteeing a win for your guy and a good time for viewers while bringing the opposition down. And healthy ratings to keep your bottom line fat and position secured.

Because you not only have the budget-- you know you have the airwaves, most all of them, ergo-- the power to influence.

The Hillary formula. And the reason the Media have donated more to Hillary over the past 4 years than anyone else.

[jen4clark]

12. Exactly my feelings

WRT Obama and Clinton. ms in la -- another Clarkie friend, put together a post a while back about who the media contributed to the most -- I'll have to go find it and bring it over. It's almost shocking -- but not really. LOL!!

hint: one of the two mentioned above tops the list.

[Clarkie1]

17. I don't get why that is in the least bit important.

Honestly, I don't.

[Blue_In_AK]

6. I'm hoping for Gore or Clark...

This has been a sad day for me.

[NCarolinawoman]

11. Kerry has always been one of my favorites.

I like the environmentalists. His record was/is outstanding.

I also think he would have been great on the international scene,

[janx]

8. Still waiting for Gore news, here...BUT...don't overlook this guy:

[KoKo]

9. Janx....just one caution..

you did read about his "gropinator problems?" It was up on Josh Marshall...and Josh isn't a RW'er. It really turned me off. Much as I like Richardson's Diplomatic Efforts and can understand that no politician is perfect...Mistresses (like Giuliani had) and Gropinators" really turn me off.

The Corporate Whore Media will be all over the "gropinator stuff." :-(

[calimary]

18. I, too, am waiting for Gore. I think if enough of us make enough noise,

he'll hear us. After all, look how the rest of the folks on Capitol Hill have begun to pay attention. Making noise WORKS!

[bluehighways911]

13. Kucinich (LOL)

Well we can now see why there has not been a liberal president in fifty years.

I love Kucinich, but Nader would have a better chance.

Who do Progressive have? Anyone with a D after their name.

Simple enough? What you haven't learned from losing race after race is. QUIT FRICKIN USING LABELS.

Anyone with a D after their name will be called a Liberal. Or Progressive, or whatever the word is this week.

Obama is my Senator and he is wonderful. He actually listened to us and voted our way, on certifying the election, as well as Alito.

But Liberals, or Progressives, or whatever you are calling yourself this week, will all say, he is to mainstream, because the MSM likes him.

Most liberals, or Progressives, or whatevery you are this week will all cry and run to Nader, like they did for the last two elections.

Dems will not give the candidate a chance. OK, not all, but enough.

But I tell you what. America will listen. And you and Kucinich or Nader will be your ususal 3%.

So quit with the labels. We are all in it. And yes, I am as FRICKIN LIBERAL as anyone on your best day.

But I know we have to win races. I will vote for in order. Gore, Obama, Edwards, Clinton, Richardson, and anyone else. And I will work my ass off for them. Because we need a new direction.

So ignore labels. Vote for the best man or woman. You won't get everything you want, but would you rather have what the last six years have been?

If so, keep whining.

[antiimperialist]

15. Prove to me that Obama is not a progressive

I'd love to hear the arguments against his progressiveness.

[Clarkie1]

16. Clark, of course....let's hope he runs. nt