Call That Goddamn C-Span: "Campaign 2008: Kerry's Out"

[Dinger]

Some "Democrat" called in and bashed Kerry's 2004 campaign, and said how "good" it was that he dropped out, etc.
Now mentioning an article about how "glad & relieved" Dems are that he's out. SSDD. I'm gonna try & call in. Give it to 'em DU!


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Assholes: 202-737-0001
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[marmar]

1. Who passed out the KoolAid this morning?

Did you hear the last two dingbats, including the woman who was near tears saying Bush has more integrity in his finger than the entire Democratic Party? :crazy: Lord Help Us!

[A wise Man]

4. I couldn't believe what I heard

where has this woman been, out of space somewhere? These things called republicans are an amazing species of the human race. They are so insanely possessed with hate that their minds can't function rationally.

[Dawgs]

6. It's called right-wing radio.

If you believe and only listen to Hannity, Limbaugh, and Fox News then it makes sense that you would believe this garbage.

Fortunately, it also makes them look stupid.

[KKKarl is an idiot]

7. ..

It is amazing that Jim & Tammy Baker are back on Christian television after all they did. Why would anyone tune into their tripe. The issue is that fact that to these people if you say you are Christian, oppose abortion, oppose gay marriages, support the pledge saying "under God", oppose flag burning, support English as the only official language, support the war in Iraq, believe all immigrants are illegal, a racist at heart & tell people all muslims are terrorists then no matter what you do otherwise you are still god on earth. I think I am going to run as a republican in south. I would easily win a seat on the state senate, then become governor & maybe have a presidential run because I will use the 10 "godly" commandments above as my campaign philosophy. :sarcasm:

[Le Taz Hot]

2. I hate to break the news to you

but a LOT of Democrats feel that way. I'm one of them. Now, if we could just get rid of Hilary, life would be good but I know that's not gonna happen.

[ProSense]

3. It doesn't matter, the current noise can't change history.

Support the Senator's efforts to end the war

[mrcheerful]

5. Where do these people get that it was the democratic people that were invovled in

stopping the Veit Nam war? From what I experinced it was most of america that opposed the war after they saw it was un-winnable, not just members of one party. Stupid pukes rewrite history at the drop of a hat. Had one tell me the Boston tea party was about taxes on tea, he claimed the tax drove up the price of tea. If that were the case then the founding smugglers like John Hancock would not have had a problem as it would have made his tea cheaper and that wasn't the case, the tea tax actually lowered the price of british tea imports.

[karynnj]

15. It's not just the Republicans who rewrite that history

Let me first say that Webb's rebuttal to Bush was excelent and that he was the only Democrat who could have won that seat - and without it the majority would be Republican. This may irritate some of his fans for me to say it, but Webb did the same thing in yesterday's SFRC. The context made it more annoying.

He cited a statistic that was intended to show that nearly 80% of the country supported the VN war in 1972. He did this by cherry picking the data - citing one poll question with an extremely biased question. (Do you think it important for S, Vietnam to be a stable country (or some simlar characteristic). This was to imply protesting it was wrong - I have 2 problems:

- Polling high doesn't make things right - This is why I hated the concept of Family Feud.
- You don't make foreign policy based on polls

[mrcheerful]

16. I agree that was cherry picking but Webb did actually use something that happened

I remember the poll because it made the local news paper when I was a kid and my dad beat the hell out of me for shredding his news paper. But its not as bad as the republicans blaming JFK for starting the Viet Nam war, it started under DDE's watch. But to this day we only hear the JFK blame, I seen it in a few places.

[zulchzulu]

8. Who cares at this point. America doesn't deserve people like Kerry

The damage has been done. A thousand free passes for Chimpy and clueless mob rule for Kerry.

I was for Kerry all the way in 2008, but to be honest, I'm relieved for him that he doesn't have to deal with the bullshit comments and lame accusations regarding his dedication to this nation and endless, sophmoric character assassination from all sides.

We don't deserve Kerry. We deserve less. Pass me the dog food.

[wisteria]

10. Honestly, you are so right. if meritocracy were how we chose our leaders he would be President.

To bad we settle for less for the highest position in this country.

[Generator]

13. Exactly how I've felt for years

Some can't even think, the propaganda works that well.

[Blue_In_AK]

14. You are correct.

[brooklynite]

9. I could have said all that...

Look, I voted for John Kerry; I donated about $10,000 to Kerry and the DNC in support of his campaign; I flew to Florida at my own expense to help out on Election Day. But I've learned to seperate my hopes and dreams from my views of reality, and however you feel about his ideology or whether the Republicans stole the election from him in Ohio, the bottom line was that he was a lousy candidate. He never articulated a clear message of what he stood for; he was inconsistent on the war; he never responded adequately to attacks, and he caved immediately after the Ohio results were announced. And nothing I've seen in the past two years suggests he would have done any better this time. "The Joke" was an example of both a clumsy speaking style which he was not immune from in 2004, and and a continued misunderstanding of when it makes sense to fight, and when it makes sense to acknowledge a mistake and knock the story out of the headlines.

My point here is not to harp on Kerry, but to suggest that as we move into the new Presidential cycle, we take the time to evaluate our prospective candidates as candidates, not just as future Presidents; on their ability not only to craft policies and positions, but also to convey them to the voters within the political framework we really have: non-representative primaries in Iowa and New Hampshire; campaigns that largely focus on 30-second commercials; monolithic Talk Radio attacks; and a press that focuses on the horse race rather than the issues. We can't change the fact that the election will be held under these rules, and a candidate who agrees with you on 100% of the issues is valueless if nobody else will vote for him or her.

[beachmom]

11. Oh, sounds like a plan. Let's just have another GWB salesman,

not a president. What has happened to this country?

[zulchzulu]

12. I want a World Leader who I can have a beer with

And please...no mistakes or long-winded speeches about policy...that's oh so boring...

:eyes:

(Actually, I bought John Kerry a Guinness in Chicago in August, 2003. He smiled, toasted and drank it..)