KUCINICH: BUSH BUCKING FOR IMPEACHMENT

[Luckyduck]

Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-OH) issued a press release on Saturday, alleging that the White House is "up to its old tricks" and preparing for a U.S. attack on Iran, and declared that if these trends continue it "could result in impeachment."

In the release, Kucinich reportedly accused the Bush administration of "mounting a media blitz to prepare the U.S. public for an eventual attack on Iran," noting recent reports that the President had authorized the military "to kill Iranians operating inside Iraq." He further charged that the White House was "providing information by anonymous sources and portraying Iran as an aggressor in Iraq. The President is mischaracterizing U.S. action vis à vis Iran. In fact, the U.S. is already engaged in offensive and provocative acts against Iran," he reportedly continued, asserting that "The President's strategy, by portraying our involvement as only being on the defensive, is laying out the groundwork for him to attack Iran and bypass authorization by Congress."

He concluded with the stern warning: "The degree to which this President continues to take steps to go to war against Iran without consulting with the full Congress is the degree to which he is increasingly putting himself in jeopardy of an impeachment proceeding."
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[MADem]

1. I hope he's wrong, I really do. I know the Monkey would like to attack Iran, but I am hoping that

his disapproval ratings and the GOP opposition to his adventurism in Congress serves to constrain him.

[calimary]

8. Sadly, I think you, and the rest of us, know in our hearts that he's NOT

wrong. I think, deep down, we all know that. bush wants and needs more war. War is what he's draped all his power on. "We're at war. I need all the tools necessary to protect the Muricuhpeople." He's said this again and again, and so have his henchmen and all his spinners and excuse-makers and apologists. We're at war. We can't challenge "our" pResident. We have to stand behind him. Blah-blah-blah. He needs a war to be able to keep advancing this excuse for unilaterally trampling on the Constitution. He needs a war as an excuse to keep on sneaking those signing statements under the radar. He needs a war to justify everything else he's after that is UTTERLY unAmerican - torture and renditions, the Blackwater mercenary warfare (that allows him to get around the rules, regs, and restrictions), feeding the war profiteers even more, lying, snooping, wire-tapping, and more. He needs a war to provide himself cover for all that shit, so he can justify it to a loud but still chickenhawk minority.

That's why he will NEVER give up on going to war.

Besides, there is that "wimp factor" that was burned into his brain during his dad's tenure in the White House, which junior - with obvious masculinity and Oedipal issues, found HUGELY galling. He's still intent on proving HE is the alpha male of the family, with a far bigger dick than his dad has.

It's personal with him. It's a way for him to prove his manhood. Especially since he turned his nose up at the opportunity to do so, on the level, during Vietnam.

FUCKER.

Dennis Kucinich has now invoked the "I" word - IMPEACHMENT, putting bush on notice that if he puts us all at risk of war with Iran, he puts HIMSELF at risk of IMPEACHMENT proceedings. I hope this is the first of MANY such invocations!

[Golden Raisin]

11. We're all going to wake up one morning soon

to find out Bush unilaterally bombed the shit out of Iran the night before. Bush is SALIVATING to go to war witih Iran. He will do an endrun around Congress. Impeachment better get back on the table real fast.

[calimary]

12. Make sure you recommend this so it gets on the Greatest page.

'Cause I think you're spot-on. One day we ARE going to wake up in the morning and the news will be about how we've begun bombing Iran.

ONE MORE REC... (please.)

[Kablooie]

27. Yep. And see how popular months and months of impeachent proceedings...

will be when during that time, the military, engaged in a major war, has no top commander.

Congress will buckle to the mighty Bush will.

Sorry, but unless they get impeachment going very, very soon, we've lost.

[calimary]

30. Hopefully, the criminal, even treasonous abuse-of-power revelations

from the libby trial and the climbing death toll from Iraq will be enough of a "preemptive" war on this asshole - and we can stop him before we even need the outrage of a fight picked, and war spread, with Iran. I'm hoping we can get this done before that happens. If not, it will indeed be an uphill battle as too many unthinking Americans will knee-jerk their way back to their fears that "we MUST stand by 'our' pResident in a time of war." Which, I think, is why he's in such a hurry to pick another really serious fight. He probably knows human nature well enough to recognize how that would suddenly short-circuit all efforts against him. There WILL be sufficient numbers of gullible, malleable people who'd immediately fall back in line like the docile little lambs they originally were (and he knows they still are). He IS using the troops as cover. BASTARD.

[Kokonoe]

39. OK,!!

But Clinton we KNOW was impeached, and finished his term with grandeur thank you very much. Impeachment would not do a fucking thing to stop the "real war" son of bush really wants.

[mike_c]

2. bingo-- DK lets the cat out of the bag....

:bounce:

[demnan]

3. I think I'm going to have to support this guy for President

he speaks the truth!

[Contrite]

32. Me, too

More and more I'm convinced Dennis is the one to support

[Eurobabe]

4. They should start impeachment hearings NOW not wait until

fuckface ATTACKS Iran!

[Luckyduck]

13. exactly!

but it is good he is putting the word out there.

[Robson]

22. Don't Impeach Him

Yeah I'd like to see both him and Cheney impeached, but I'd much prefer if his own party initiated it. That way conviction is assured and it won't be an issue in 08. Bush is on very shaky ground with the GOP as they know he isn't concerned with reelection but they are. If he steps over the line especially with involving us in a war in Iran his own party will take care of it.

Such impeachment will give the USA new found respect from the world.

[Eurobabe]

25. Sorry, I don't think the CONS will have the guts to take him down

it's going to be up to us, maybe in cooperation with those that have left the GOP fold, but they'll never put forth a measure to impeach *.

[calimary]

5. Way to go, Kucinich!!!

YES!!!

This is a big day, guys. The subject has actually been broached - as it should have been a LONG time ago to serve notice to this so-called "president" that he is NOT a unilateral dictator or king, and he canNOT move on his own. That's not how this country or this government were set up. And since he evidently uses the pages of history books as toilet paper (or maybe rolling paper), he couldn't possibly be expected to know that our Founders STARTED this country and shed blood for it and risked everything for it - FOR THE SPECIFIC PURPOSE OF OVERTHROWING AND DOING AWAY WITH an absolute-monarchy governmental structure. We're here BECAUSE OF THAT, not because we've owed fealty to, and genuflected before, some king throughout our history.

That's NOT what America's about, george. GET IT??????

This stuff needs to be said. The "I" word now needs to be openly and officially invoked. It's just frickin' TIME. I'm so glad Dennis is doing it. May he be only the first of MANY.

[lovuian]

6. Kucinich has been on to Bush all along and He knows what he

is doing and thats be a Wartime President in for 8 years
so he can use the defense I am a Wartime Prez and do what ever I want too

I'm above the Law

[calimary]

7. YES, YES, YES!!! I hope if you have time today or this week - that

perhaps you'll take a moment to call in and tell Dennis Kucinich you are SO INCREDIBLY BEHIND THIS, and SO INCREDIBLY BEHIND KUCINICH in this.

And if it's possible, perhaps call either Nancy Pelosi's office, or that of your own congressperson, and urge them to get behind Kucinich, because YOU, their boss and their employer, are behind Kucinich.

These people don't, AND SHOULDN'T operate in a vacuum. And the November, 2006 election results are still fresh in the mind, and shouldn't be allowed to be forgotten. We've GOT TO USE THIS OPPORTUNITY - to build on our momentum. Otherwise it'll die, and our efforts will stall, and most of America will wonder why they bothered trusting Democrats to start fixing things and cleaning up the horrendous mess the republi-CONS have made. Our guys need to be reminded, constantly, that we have their back, and WE, their BOSSES AND EMPLOYERS, have specific dictates for them to carry out - WHICH IS WHY WE PUT THEM BACK IN POWER. There are WAY too many other forces out there pushing against them, and against us. So we have to speak up, lest we be ignored or forgotten.

BTW, if you're a campaign donor, be sure they know THAT, too. Money talks. As do the money-givers.

TOLL FREE Capitol Hill switchboard numbers are in my sig line for your convenience.

[goclark]

9. Love Dennis and k

[calimary]

10. One more recommendation gets this to the Greatest page - where

more people can see it.

Can I get an "AMEN"?

[justiceischeap]

14. It's the same thing he did with Afghanistan

Didn't catch Osama, so went to war with Iraq to take the heat off that mess-up, so now since we're overextended and losing in Iraq, he wants to start a new war as a diversion to the current war that isn't going well.

At least he's predictable.

[Pooka Fey]

15. Let's see - * is not impeachable until he illegally attacks yet another country?

Am I understanding this correctly? Oh never mind...

[Luckyduck]

16. Kucinich knows Bush is impeachable

I think he was just following Pelosi and Conyers, but now he has finally had enough.

[StrictlyRockers]

17. FEEL THE LOVE, DENNIS! K&R

[Tom Joad]

18. The US is clearly the main aggressor in Iraq.

[chknltl]

19. Ya know...the Iran fear mongering may be added smoke

... to keep the media from spending their precious minutes on other things which bushco prefers gets as little air time as possible. I am not saying that bushco is not wanting to go to war with Iran, I don't put it past his megalomaniac associates, I just wonder if this ain't all deliberate smoke and mirrors.

I too support Dennis Kucinich, his speeches represent my thoughts closer than everyone else's at this point. Using the "I" word looms big in my book right now too. Here is why:

DO YOU TRUST IN BUSHCO'S ABILITY TO PROTECT AMERICA FROM FUTURE 9-11S????

You all know that this admin. has:
#1 Done more to increase hatred against America worldwide than Saddam Hussein could have hoped for.
#2 Victimized as many if not more folks in the Middle East than Saddam Husein did.
#3 Done more to destabilize the Middle East than Saddam Husein.
#4 Invaded a country under false pretenses as did Saddam Hussein.
#5 Used WMD against the peoples of the Middle East, combatants and noncombatants as well as our our own troops.
#6 Stole the resources from the citizens of Iraq.
#7 Set up prisons, incarcerated thousands or more and condoned torture on many of the citizens of the middle east.
#8 Threatens even more countries neighboring the ones we occupy today.

These points and more are well discussed here in the DU...sure we can nit-pic the finer details among ourselves but the citizens of the Middle East do not have that luxury...They are aware of these things and more...much more if you are a citizen of Iraq. So if we are aware that bushco in usual fashion is creating more terrorists as opposed to reducing terrorism, if we can easily see that this ever growing slice of the Middle East has a damn fine set of reasons to hope for America's destruction, then what are we going to do about it?

What would you tell that poor Iraqi civilian whose family's been shot up whose electric water and sewage have been spotty at best and whose leadership we helped remove for crimes we also commit...What do you tell that guy my fellow DUers that can sway him from strapping on a nuke and taking a stroll through your neighborhood? Not gonna send him any messages? Gonna just let him see that we gave bushco a pass for these crimes? Then you place your fate in bushco's hands.... I worry that you trust the bushbastards to protect you from those future 9-11s he and his evil administration helped create!

Do not send the Middle East the message that we gave bushco a pass. The impeachment process MUST be the message we send and even though it is not going to be enough, it is the best option we could choose to start with. I use the "Chicken Little" name for a reason: I think the sky is about to fall and dear God I hope I am wrong. AMERICA'S FATE MAY YET BE IN THE HANDS OF WE THE PEOPLE...wake up America.
thank you
c

[mnhtnbb]

20. I LOVE Dennis for telling it like it is.

[Luckyduck]

21. IMPEACH and IMPRISON

First we impeach the bastard- then we elect Kucinich who will sign onto the ICC- then send Bush to the Hague

[Just-plain-Kathy]

23. I love an honest politician....

One who isn't afraid to speak against the corporate warmongers we have on the right and on the left.

:patriot:


(Hey Hillary,when will you speak against the surge?)

[ChiciB1]

24. I've Said This Before... But I Sometimes think HE Actually WANTS To

be IMPEACHED! Just to "cut & run" from the horrendous MESS HE'S made of things! Isn't that was he ALWAYS does???

[Luckyduck]

45. let's give him what he wants then!

n/t

[burrowowl]

26. IMPEACHMENT

of Bu$h and Cheney is the only way to stop BU$HCO madness!

[chknltl]

28. 29 votes and less than 29 posts...deserves a good kick nt

[calimary]

29. What's this?!? I leave for the day and this thread is stalled at four

votes. I return at the end of the evening and there are THIRTY THREE!!!! YOWZA!!!!

DANG, I love DU!

This is truly a MUST-read. Especially the following passage:

He concluded with the stern warning: "The degree to which this President continues to take steps to go to war against Iran without consulting with the full Congress is the degree to which he is increasingly putting himself in jeopardy of an impeachment proceeding."

Oh YEAH!!!

I sure appreciate all these kicks and rec's - and hey, it's not even my thread! But it's REALLY important. This needs to be spread around, seen by everyone, so they know this is now being discussed even more openly.

This NEEDS to be said, read, and spread! Dennis, YOU ROCK!!!

:loveya:

[eridani]

31. An interesting point about his website

From 2004 until he announced his candidacy for the presidency, he absolutely and strictly FORBADE any mention of impeachment on the discussion forum. That he has changed his mind over this on the Iran issue makes me really, really worried about BFEE plans for the immediate future.

[Luckyduck]

43. Let's me get this straight....

Kucinich would not allow free speech on his discussion forum?

[eridani]

47. It was a tool for his re-election as congressman, not a soapbox

As such, it reflected his policy at the time. The 9-11 truth subforum was pretty active, though, and he didn't have a problem with that.

[cyclezealot]

33. Go Dennis. Write your congress members backing DK.

I just did. My Congressmen is a waffler too. Time to get the likes of him off the fence. THe only way the US war mania and destruction of our economy will stop is if we get rid of these wanna be dictators.

[Luckyduck]

46. good idea

:toast:

and Tucker Carlson- maybe he will have him on to talk Impeachment!

[caseycoon]

34. OH DENNIS! Please keep the pressure on! n/t

[porkrind]

35. Scary. Thanks, DK, for telling it like it is.

DK is electable to me. :)

[JacksonWest]

36. He's right and wrong.

The White House is clearly talking up a war with Iran-read the memes. Watch the news. The frequency of Iran thoughts/threats/pontifications is high. I work out at the same gym every night. I throw on the ipod, and I spend some quality time on the tread mills. They have tv's going, with CC. Anyway, I can watch CNN, FOX, and MSNBC at the same time. For the last month-Iran has been popping up more and more in the text, on the scroll bar, and as a story of interest.

Now, Iran is clearly provoking the United States to do something-at the height of our unpopularity. Iran has an interest in Iraq-it's a Shiite majority state(Iraq). However, Iran doesn't really have the capacity to hurt us. If we attack them-the whole region will back Iran-as well as some other countries. Sort of a nightmare scenario we should avoid. It will make Iraq look like a Sunday Picnic. Sort of.

Anyway, world war 3 aside-Any attack on Iran will be purely tactical. It won't reach the threshold of a ground war yet. I don't think we'll have another cold war scenario-but you never know. Iran is involved in Iraq, right now. As is Saudi Arabia. Yet, we're not yelling at the Saudis. Interesting. And it's the Saudi backed groups that are doing most of the killing against the Shiite majority. yet, we're not raising an eyebrow......

However, Dennis, wonderful, sweet, innocent Dennis, the impeachment train has passed. they don't have the time, let alone the votes. This congress isn't going to impeach, they aren't going to do shit. At all. They're just going to sit on there hands and let Bush continue flying this plane into the mountain. I'd love a congress that actually does something.....but that's just a pipe dream, eh?

[Catfight]

37. We should already be in months of impeachment hearings, I have no

idea why we are waiting on a mad man to fully go mad?

[Luckyduck]

40. 650,000 innocents dead!

I agree,but it's a start...

[Kare]

38. Put impeachment back on the table!!

eom

[Imagevision]

41. The Dems will allow Bush to attack Iran ->then address the fallout??

Will Hillary Obama or edwards then say we have serious problems to deal with??

We have a whacko running loose in the White House and no one in government cares?

Can this be what Cheney/Rice met by "the mushroom clouds" The US. is bucking to get attacked, with this president his next speech will be from a bunker!!

Wake-up America!! Pelosi, What's going on???

[melody]

44. I think Specter's recent statement strongly precludes an attack on Iran

... without serious, widespread reaction by the GOP.

If Bush goes ahead, he's toast. This isn't even brutal, nasty politics anymore, this is mass murder for profit.

[blondie58]

42. Go Dennis!

The more that I read about him, the more I like him. He would be an awesome President- he is a man who is true to his soul. Yep, we need to impeach this Bozo and Cheney and anyone else. They are all a bunch of criminals.

[Luckyduck]

48. Kucinich and Impeachment- my two favorite topics

:kick:

[goodhue]

49. kick