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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 08:22 AM
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How is "large manufacturing" hurt by a Min.Wage increase?
First of all I didn't think that there was any more "large manufacturing". The Dems say so because of outsourcing and the Republicans say so because you whining little unionists need to get over it-there is lots of grass to cut out there and plenty of homes to sell.

Secondly I thought that there wasn't anyone on minimum wage really. That's one of the main arguments I hear "this won't help but 1/2 a million people anyway" and those are just teenagers and slackers anyway, right?

The failed actresses/spokesmodels on CNN make my brain hurt sometimes.
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 08:40 AM
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1. Large manufacturing is helped by an increase
You're right that there isn't anyone on minimum wage really. Go to any employment website and you'll find plenty of $5.50/hour jobs. I've even seen $5.35/hour jobs. The minimum wage is $5.25/hour. Someone in a $5.35/hour or $5.50/hour job doesn't count in the minimum-wage statistics but wow! That huge $10/week increase over minimum wage is enough to make the payments on that Hummer, right? (And right now y'all are thinking, "you can't even get ten dollar hummers from crack whores.")

And there are DEFINITELY no employees in large manufacturing plants making minimum wage. They can't even hire illegal aliens to cut and package chicken for $5.25/hour. You know how McCain once said there were jobs Americans won't do? There are also jobs Mexicans won't do, and standing in a freezer getting yelled at for twelve hours a day while risking carpal tunnel, lower-extremity injury and accidental amputation for five dollars an hour is one of them.

The proposed new minimum wage is $7.25 per hour. There are a LOT of people--far more than half a million--in jobs that pay between $5.25 and $7.24 per hour, and all of those people will get an immediate raise if this goes into effect. That's a big if because Bush WILL veto it and we probably don't have enough Republicans on our side to overturn Bush's veto.

But large manufacturing--more properly called "heavy manufacturing," a category which includes things like carmaking--benefits from a minimum wage increase because it increases the number of people able to afford the manufactured goods.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 08:56 AM
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2. Wow and excellent and complete refutiation
if that is really a word.
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 01:02 PM
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4. Tutti Frutti Refuttiation
nt
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dazzlerazzle Donating Member (329 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 10:27 AM
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3. minimum wage rage
It irks me that organizations such as the chamber of commerce actively lobby against raising the minimum wage. Let's see how many raises or bonus payments the people on their board have had in the last ten years! This is why they should have new hearings on the commonwealth of the Marianna's deal to kill the US minimum wage from being put into place. The congress at that time actively supported slave labor, and they should have to answer to their actions.
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ItNerd4life Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 01:53 PM
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5. I don't like the minimum wage law the way it is enacted
I think there should be 2 minimums. 1 for people under age 22 just entering the work force, the 2nd should be more akin to a living wage.

However, with that we need to make it so companies don't move off shore and take jobs with them. I like the idea of no corporate executives can make more than 50 times their lowest paid worker, no matter what part of the world the worker resides in. Kind of like how 401k programs are designed, everybody has access to 401k plans because they can't be made to just benefit the executives.

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