MSNBC's Tucker Carlson calls Conyers et al "Cowards" for not impeaching NOW

[EVDebs]

And I'm beginning to believe him. Bushco has so intimidated the Dems who now have control of Congress that they still seem to think he calls all the shots, in Iraq, and everywhere else for that matter.

Someone please draw the line.

[unpossibles]

1. what? So what are the pukes who did not even stand up to him for 6 years

much less not impeach him?

[atreides1]

5. The Repukes were his allies

Besides they needed someone to point the finger at should the Democrats take back the Congress!!!

What are the numbers needed to get this president and his evil vice impeached, or at least get the ball rolling?

[unpossibles]

18. they're still cowards. Nice screen name, btw

Dune fan, I take it? That book was like my bible for years.

[Mz Pip]

2. I think Hell has frozen over

I enthusiastically agree with Tucker on something. Amazing.

Mz Pip
:dem:

[billybob537]

3. The president and vp need to go now

before they attack Iran before the screw anything else up ENOUGH is ENOUGH!

[JanusAscending]

4. Dear ESTEEMED Gentleman Conyers,

PLEASE!!... call their damn bluff!! It's down and dirty time!

[EVDebs]

6. Agreed. The evidence is seff-evident

By their fruits ye shall know them, as the Bible says. A Republican record not to be proud of and now those AUMFs and violations of the War Powers Resolution are going unchallenged. Since when is it constitutional to let a 'decider' do whateverthehell he wants ? Fantasy as pretext for war...and another war in the hopper.

Truly, stop them before they kill again.

[wryter2000]

7. He's using it as a RW talking point

I had a freeper try that on me. "If he committed crimes, you ought to impeach him." The implication was that we don't have enough evidence, or we'd do it. I understand the frustration, but don't walk into bowtie's trap.

[enough already]

10. It's not about evidence

It's about balls. Just schedule the vote and do it.

[wryter2000]

11. Then, we impeach

And the Senate fails to convict. Bush lives to start more wars. In the meantime, he crows over his victory over "partisanship."

[mitchtv]

12. you mean it's about losing

you want an empty impeachment with no evidence, and no chance of conviction?. Patience grasshopper.

[enough already]

16. Empty? No evidence?

Spare me. I have no more patience for this mass murderer. For the House to sit by one more day is criminal. Get him out now.

[ItsTheMediaStupid]

48. The House can't get him out. A simple majority in the Senate can't either

The day there are 67 Yea votes in the Senate, the impeachment process will start.

There is no point in rushing it, there are so many crimes to investigate and put on the Congressional record now. After a few more months, maybe 18 republicans will cross the aisle and vote to convict in the Senate.

I say 18 republicans, b/c lieberhole will never vote to impeach w.

[Javaman]

59. exactly. and each and every day a new repuke comes over to our side. :)

it will happen. Just a matter of getting all the ducks in a row.

[EVDebs]

15. My blood boils watching that reporter's dinner and * plays the "Where's the WMD's?"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0TnqUlB4Gg

Watch this on YouTube and if you don't think those 'journalists' have something to be ashamed of you're a Republican.

Freep me if you dare.

[grace0418]

21. I saw that back when it happened and couldn't believe they laughed. Yeah, it's

really funny that thousands upon thousands of people have died because Iraq supposedly had those dang WMDs. Hilarious.

[enough already]

8. Even a broken clock is right twice a day

Carlson is right.

[Captain Hilts]

9. Life's too short to watch "Tucker!" nt

[AndyA]

13. While I do encourage everyone to avoid Tucker, sometimes you pause a bit too long

and get flashed by his insanity.

Investigations must be performed before the impeachment process can be initiated, and some have already started. I know letters requesting information have gone out from Waxman, so the ball is beginning to roll. I don't think it will take long for them to find "inconsistencies."

After that, the ball gains momentum... :thumbsup:

[Bullet1987]

14. He also slammed Conyers...

...For saying "far-out" things about Bush. Whatever that means...

[EVDebs]

17. What's left to investigate ? I watch this clip on * and the nonexistent WMDs

and my hair is on fire, praytell WHEN if not NOW will Congress give this administration a 'speedbump' ? if not writing up a 'ticket' ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0TnqUlB4Gg

[blondeatlast]

19. If Tucker's mouth is moving, the Heritage Foundation is setting the Democrats up.

I've been wondering why the RW Noise Machine has been so chummy with the Dems lately.

They are getting hand jobs from the HF while flirting with the party in power.

How utterly convenient for them.

[ginnyinWI]

24. agreed--they are setting traps.

The other trap is "well if you want the troops to come home, why don't you withhold all funds?"

Nope--I don't think the Dems need to take advice from the GOP. Thinking outside the box is called for--like Kerry's lastest resolution on making * responsible to formulate his own timetable for withdrawal.

And an impeachment would be nothing more than a political trap at this time. Maybe down the road, but not right now.

[blondeatlast]

25. Scary to think this thread has about 6 recommendations already.

I'm amazed at the naivete I see on this board sometimes.

[EVDebs]

27. View the video on Post #15 and call ME naive ? I don't think I'll roll over

and play dead like Congress seems to want to do.

[blondeatlast]

31. I'm all for impeachment--what offends me is the naivete of those who don't realize

that "courage" is the daily talking point from the lazy, lap-dog press.

Tweety is on about the same word, different issue.

Maybe you like being played. I don't.

[EVDebs]

37. You give these Republican bullies too much credit. Their days are numbered

And the fate of their party is at stake.

If the facts are there to back impeachment AND THEY ARE there is no excuse for letting Bushco start another escapade into Iran or Syria right now just to satisfy the 'crazies in the basement' of the WH's blood lust.

Some R's are going to have to start jumping ship soon...think about that one if you're worried about being 'played'.

Sy Hersh says the worst is yet to come
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x79921

Let's preempt that.

[phiddle]

20. No one wants to impeach Bush & Cheney more than Conyers

Hell, he's already got articles drafted. But let's let him work...the hasty stroke oft goes awry.
Tucker, IMHO is trying to provoke such a hasty stroke as a defensive measure for Bush & Dick.

[Senator]

22. There's no line to draw -- Carlson is Correct

Feingold is calling Dems "timid," when even he is merely threatening to hit the war criminals with his purse. All the while parroting the Big Lie of "co-equal branches of gov't."

The Congress can remove the (p)Resident. He cannot touch them. There's nothing "co-equal" about that.

Whether it's really cowardice, self-delusion, dereliction of duty, or pure ignorance is really irrelevant. The LieberDems are still the butt of the oldest GOP joke in DC:

"Gosh, for a minute there I thought they might actually DO something."

Only Impeachment is a substantive act.

It IS our positive agenda.

It is our ONLY moral, patriotic option.

--

[EVDebs]

26. Unless his unlawful spying has been applied to Congress behind their backs

"He cannot touch them." Don't tell that to Karl Rove or Grover Norquist or their minions in the NSA, FBI, etc.

[Cocoa]

23. Tucker Carlson commenting on Conyers's courage

:rofl:

[fooj]

28. My thoughts, exactly.

May I join you?

:rofl:

[blondeatlast]

33. Over here.

:rofl:

[Hekate]

29. Why on Earth would our Fighting Dems take advice from this right wing shill? Why?

The same reason Hansel and Gretel would enter the gingerbread cottage, maybe?

Please recognize that Tucker is not our friend. Repeat after me: a right wing shill is not and never will be a friend to Democrats. This is a trick.

Hekate

[Quantess]

30. It's not a "trick". It's self-preservation.

Tucker wants to stay relevant.

He can feel which way the wind is blowing, and he's looking out for his career.

[EVDebs]

39. He knows what Bush is all about but likes the steady paycheck

the corporation gives him. Besides, he was against Iraq early on and felt a bit of freeper 'payback' himself

[Quantess]

42. Sure, he probably is getting favors and cash for being a Bush propagandist.

But at the same time, he's probably wondering how he can segue his "journalist" career into the next presidency.

[EVDebs]

32. So he's right then ? Conyers et al in Congress are cowards ?

And there's now WMDs and we give * dictatorial powers and you can go back to your regularly scheduled sigmoidoscopy courtesy of the Republican Party, which btw, YOU will pay for.

[Hekate]

43. I said Tucker is "a right wing shill" not that he's "correct"

I'm not sure how you got that out of what I said.

I think Conyers et al. are our Fighting Dems, which is why I called them that, and I think they will do us proud. There's nothing cowardly about John Conyers.

Hekate

[blondeatlast]

35. Amen, amen, amen. Funny how Tweety is using the same word, too.

If it weren't for Olbermann, I'd destroy the TV.

[elocs]

34. Take a moment and think why he is saying that.

Because Carlson knows that it is too early to have a successful impeachment and conviction. Impeachment without conviction does not do much, so Carlson would like to goad Democrats into prematurely passing articles of impeachment. I think that our Democratic leaders are too smart to fall for that. Impeachment will happen when it is the right time or it will not happen at all. If it is worth doing, it is worth doing right. How many DA's have lost cases when they were pressured by the public to file charges too soon and the person who so obviously appeared guilty was not convicted. You investigate first, not rush to indict.

[EVDebs]

36. If they can't lock up and put under house arrest how about a citizen's arrest ?

If Congress won't act ? Who will ? The 'Surge' is merely pretext for an action in Iran.

Congress can stop the war
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=2709436&mesg_id=2709436

They should be doing it NOW.

[elocs]

38. Check the U.S. Constitution because it is very clear on the matter.

Although Bush does not read the Constitution or care about it, we should be familiar with it.

[EVDebs]

40. Article II section 4 re treason ?

BTW, look at Feingold run with the ball !

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x84624

He's got the ball and is running with it !!!!!! Go, Baby, Go !!!!

[elocs]

44. That's my Senator. At least one of them.

There are a lot of Republicans here in Wisconsin who will vote for Feingold because they appreciate his integrity and honesty.

[The Count]

41. Believe Fucker Carlson? What qualifies him to call ANYONE a coward????

I want impeachment as much as anyone, ut I'll be damned if I take lecturing from MSM toadies like Bow Tie!

[mzmolly]

45. I'm shocked. And, he provided Nader with a platform to do the same.

huh? :eyes:

[harveyc]

46. I won't say I agree with him, but I agree with you! ... n/t

[EVDebs]

47. We'll all get to the promised land...just the R's will be kicking and screaming. nt

[tinfoilinfor2005]

49. Groan. Somebody please make Tucker go away.

PLEASE!........

[KoKo]

50. Tucker is a Libertarian! Of course he wants Bush Impeached...Blame

Democrats for the dirty deed of "Cutting and Running" while we were at WAR! :rofl:

Don't get suckered by Tucker!

[Generic Brad]

51. How can we impeach without the votes?

Last time I looked our majority in the house and senate was not large enough to impeach anyone. We need Republican votes as well.

[madville]

54. Stop being realistic

The idea that the Senate Republicans are going to crossover and kick * & Cheney out is not a possibility. Can you imagine the R's giving Nancy Pelosi the Presidency by voting against Bushco in the Senate ? I have a hard time doing that, doesn't matter what happens in the next 20 months.

[BlueIris]

52. Yeah, and you would know from coward you FAT PIG.

"I'm not voting for John Kerry tommorow. I don't want him to be president."

Asshole.

[tavalon]

53. Conyers a coward?!?

Oh, that is rich! :rofl: Tucker Carlson as the messenger of that little missive? Priceless. :rofl:

It is a rare day when anything associated with Tucker Carlson's name can make me laugh but I guess this is a rare day indeed!

[anitar1]

55. Gosh. I thoought the Dems had been in control for 1 month !! n/t

[dave123williams]

56. Let's call their bluff and impeach the little naked emperor.

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[cassiepriam]

58. Dems are always set up in lose/lose situations.

If they impeach they will get slimed, if they don't impeach they are
getting slimed.

[silvermachine]

60. Carlson is such a tool...

...his favorite tactic is to say one fairly reasonable but very general thing, like how he has always been against the war in Iraq, but then he follows it up with remarks about how we need to win it. He really makes me ill. When he drew comparisons between naming a street in Baltimore for Pelosi and Mussolini it made me ill. But very typical for him.