I hold McCain responsible for the birth of KKKarl Rove.

[ncteechur]

First let me say that I used to think McCain was OK-I would have still voted for Gore but at least I could have lived with a McCain presidency. That was until he caved in and kissed W's ass in the 2000 primaries. After W and company attacked McCain's family (McCain himself not even the issue) McCain should have just flat decked him and said, "George, if you want to go after me, fine. But stay the hell away from my family." McCain would have been the hero. But alas, he caved in and licked W's boots. And that was the beginning of Karl Rove's invincibility (or at least he thought so). Yes, he learned from Lee Attwater, a snake who finally tried to attone for his crap-hole ways, too little and too late-- but HW fired Rove because he was so despicable. However, once McCain capitulated, that was it. Rove knew he could simply destroy someone and/or their family to win. If McCain had decked Bush, Rove would have been simply the snotty, pasty-assed shithole he really is. A bird turd on history. McCain sold out and doesn't deserve to ever be president.

[emulatorloo]

1. McCain has hired "rove-style" Terry Nelson already -- assoc w Swiftboat Vets, anti-Ford "Call Me" Ad

so that should tell you all you need to know about McCain.

(whole article worth reading)

http://www.evote.com/?q=node/5175
John McCain's Hired Guns

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Terry Nelson
At the top of the team is Bush's 2004 national political director, Terry Nelson. Nelson originally came on to McCain's team in March of this year as a senior advisor to McCain's PAC, Straight Talk America. Nelson was political director of the NRCC in 2000 and is credited with helping to build the RNC's grass-roots mobilization effort in 2000 and 2004. Nelson, an Iowa native who at one point worked for Jim Nussle, signals that McCain is making a strong play for Iowa, which he passed up in favor of New Hampshire during his failed 2000 campaign.

But besides Nelson's organizational skills, his easy-going manner is a cover for a down-and-dirty political infighter. Nelson was responsible for approving the highly criticized Republican ad against Harold Ford, Jr. that had a white woman asking the candidate to call her after meeting him at the Playboy mansion. The controversial ad was pulled after a week and a half, but not before it produced a turnaround in Ford's numbers from which he never fully recovered. He's been associated with the Tom DeLay scandal, and tangentially associated with the New Hampshire phone-jamming scheme to obstruct the Democrats' get-out-the-vote effort in 2002 and the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth. And in a twist of the knife to Democratic dark-horse-wanna-be John Edwards, Nelson also represented Wal-mart in its push to repair its image. While Democrats may try to make hay out of Nelson's past, McCain's campaign, which was hit hard in 2000 by Nelson's kind of tactics, is smart to bring someone in who can fight the dirty fight if necessary.

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[brazos121200]

2. Karl Rove had been pulling this stuff for years in Texas when he

advised many local and statewide elections here in the 80s and 90s. He would pull all kinds of despicable things and always seemed able to come out of it unscathed. He ruined many fine people's reputations during those years. He managed W's gubernatorial campaigns in 1994 and again in 1998, both times dragging his opponents through the mud as only he could. Because no one stood up to him here in Texas and took the trouble to stop it here, he went on to be the 'genius' behind W's campaigns.