Gore-Feingold 2008: The most ideologically pure ticket?

[Ninja Jordan]

This hypothetical ticket most closely represents the political ideology of DU. Agree? It's actually viable too (not like Kucinich-Boxer or other similar nonsense that gets thrown around). Not that I think this ticket would ever exist, but if it did, it most closely represents the ideology around here. Both against Iraq from the beggining as well as the patriot act. Great on the environment (Russ is even pro-2nd amendment somewhat), both great Democrats who fight for what they believe in.

[Olney Blue]

1. Yes, with Wes Clark as Secretary of State.

We might actually become a great country again.

[Ninja Jordan]

3. yeah

[SharonRB]

4. He'd be good, but I'd love to see Bill Clinton as SoS

I mentioned I'd like to see Wes as S of Defense, but found out he's not eligible to do that until he's been out of the military for 10 years.

[against all enemies]

13. Even Hillary wouldn't want a star that bright as SoS.

The big dog would over shadow the President and that's not good.

[SharonRB]

14. I know, but he'd be so good at it

and people around the world love him -- he could mend so many fences.

[Hippo_Tron]

17. IMO, Clinton could be UN Ambassador

[SharonRB]

31. That would work, too!

[SharonRB]

2. LOL -- check out my post from the KOEB during KO tonight

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=315&topic_id=73347&mesg_id=73376

You are sooooooo right.

[peacetalksforall]

5. Gore-Feingold has been my choice for months. Neither are

formally running, regrettably.

[Mojambo]

6. Same here. It's a wonderful "Restore the Constitution" ticket. n/t

[SharonRB]

7. Well, Feingold said he would consider VP

and I'm convinced Gore is going to run. The more people in the know I've talked to lately, the more convinced I am.

I went to an organizing meeting last night for a Volunteers to Draft Al Gore for 2008 group. The guy running the meeting had met Al and Tipper when he went for "Inconvenient Truth" training and he said there were little things that convinced him Al was going to run. I think he's just waiting to see how the field shakes out and to see how much support he has -- which is considerable, especially with the netroots. He also cannot really declare before the Oscars.

I also met Clarence Page, a political columnist for the Chicago Trib last week (he's also been on Hardball, the McLaughlin Group and others) and I asked him if he thought Al would run. He thinks he will -- he thinks as soon as Hillary slips up and it becomes obvious that she's not really the runaway favorite Al will jump into the race. I'd say give it until the spring or summer and he'll be in there.

In the meantime, get involved with one of the many Draft Gore groups getting set up around the country. They're trying to build a strong grassroots movement.

[xultar]

8. Ahh but Feingold says that all options are on the table with Iran. Is that pure?

Feingold said that about 3 weeks ago during an interview with Sosobad on CNN American Morning.

[Ninja Jordan]

9. Pure in the sense that Congress has authority to declare war when it deems it necessary

He's saying all options are on the table should Iran try and strike the United States.

[Tellurian]

21. How would Iran strike the United States? By Fedex?

[Ninja Jordan]

23. Should the US leave options "off" the table when it comes to American security?

How 'bout them apples? I can ask one-liners too!

[Tellurian]

24. Ok, ninj... you win!

:rofl:

[morningglory]

10. I adore that ticket!! Can they do it without raising 500 million dollars?

Just pop up at the last minute and we vote for them. God help uuuuuuuuusssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[sallyseven]

11. Gore would be crazy to run

He really doesn't want to.

[SharonRB]

15. I wouldn't necessarily be so sure about that

[Apollo11]

28. How do you know?

We know Al Gore wanted to be President in 1988.

We know Al Gore wanted to be President in 2000.

We know Al Gore won the popular vote in 2000.

We know Al Gore is full of energy and ideas.

We know he is the best-qualified person for the job.

We know he is younger than Hillary, Clark, McCain and Giuliani.

Let's all find ways to show our support for Al Gore! :)

Read Rolling Stone magazine: WHY GORE SHOULD RUN -- AND HOW HE CAN WIN
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/13248532/why_gore_should_run__and_how_he_can_win

Get ready for Al Gore's next book - The Assault on Reason - out in May!
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/16/AR2006091600877.html

Visit the following pro-Gore websites:
www.algore.com
www.algore.org
www.draftgore.com - Sign the petition! :)
www.draftgore2008.org
www.patriotsforgore.com

:kick:

[MannyGoldstein]

12. Cannot Beat Hillary/Zell

Sorry.

[LittleClarkie]

16. I like both men and would vote for them, but striving for "purity"

makes my teeth itch.

[DaveinMD]

20. completely agree

I don't like the quest for ideological purity. The phrase itself makes me nervous.

[Tellurian]

22. Agree, purity isn't an asset for fighting Republicans..

actually they rely on the easy going, Live and Let Live, Democratic personas to take advantage.

[LittleClarkie]

25. Actually, that isn't what I meant by purity

I'm not going to rule out Edwards because he has a big house. That's the kind of purity test I mean. I wasn't willing to rule out Kerry for having voted for the IWR three years ago. That's the kind of purity test I mean.

I will not rule out perfectly good Dems with good leadership qualities because of one issue. I will look at each of them as a whole, the good and the bad, taking in the big picture before I make a decision.

Saying so does not mean I'm looking for "the easy going, Live and Let Live, Democratic personas."

Frankly I'm confused as to what kind of purity you are referring to that you think would be useful in fighting Republicans.

Feingold isn't pure. He voted for Ashcroft. I guess he's out then, eh?

[Tellurian]

32. What I want in a candidate is a "BraveHeart"

Here are some of the general qualities I'm looking for in a candidate:

someone who listens to my concerns and make a honest effort to address them.
someone who isn't afraid of getting involved or getting his/her hands dirty.
someone who has a strong, loyal, base of supporters behind them.
someone that will go the distance and never give up at election time if there is a problem.
someone that will advance their criticism of Bush and go head to head with him, the closer we come to election time.
someone who doesn't consider bipartisanship a priority.
someone who has a vision for our future and saving the planet..

Some of the specific issues I'm interested in:

getting Katrina survivors taken care of-
ending the Iraq War-
universal health care-
veteran's benefits-
funding for education-
programs for ending poverty-
aggressive reduction of threat of global warming-
lowering dependence on fossil fuels-

The issues mentioned are at the top of my list. I would also like to see the development of affordable housing, the restoration of New Orleans and Mississippi, increasing the minimum wage, increase in Tax Deductions, No interest College loans, Tax credits for College Tuition (not just deductible interest).

I haven't checked what our candidates are offering as their platforms just yet. I'm focused on their qualities. There can always be refinements to their proposals, the closer we come to election day.

[rusty_parts2001]

18. Excellent Ticket--Why didn't I think of it?

[RiverStone]

19. Prefer Gore/Clark...

Think that ticket has a more rounded blend of experience, particularly on matters of foreign policy.

Though I think Russ totally rocks - posted his eloquent words today from the Senate Judiciary Hearing.

[PhilipShore]

26. Gore/Clark 2008

General Clark is perhaps -- better -- then Feingold as a representative of liberalism -- and with the war going on, the security mom swing votes will go to Gore in 2008, when he runs against Jeb bush.

[More Than A Feeling]

29. How is Clark better?

I'm intrigued. Feingold was my guy (and would be again if he reconsidered his decision to bow out of the race). How does Clark better represent me (liberal that I am)? Ideology is of first importance when I make my choice.

[PhilipShore]

33. General Clark's liberalism

It is hard to define exactly how he is more liberal: because the MSM media distorts reality most of the time. However, from what I read of him -- he has the liberalism of a Gandhi, and a JFK.

About has a short background on his liberalism. I think if he does run with Gore and wins, people would be shocked about how liberal he is.

I am sure he knows more about non-violent principles -- then most politicians, because of his qualifications, etc.

About
Liberal Politics: U.S.

http://usliberals.about.com/od/peopleinthenews/p/WesleyClark.htm


...He holds strong pro-environmental views, and equally strong pro-civil rights stances....

[Apollo11]

27. I say we let the nominee pick his or her running mate

If the nominee is Al Gore, I am confident he will pick someone who has been critical of the Bu$h-Cheney administration's policy towards Iraq.

That was one of the main reasons Gore gave for endorsing Howard Dean in 2003. So it would mean that a Gore-Hillary ticket is unlikely.

from CNN.com - December 10, 2003

Gore also praised Dean's opposition to the U.S.-led war in Iraq. The former vice president called the Iraq war a "catastrophic mistake" by the Bush administration, a move that leaves the United States less effective in the nation's battle against terrorism. He said the United States is now in a "quagmire" in Iraq.

"He was the only major candidate who made the correct judgment about the Iraq war," Gore said. "And he had the insight and the courage to say and do the right thing. And that's important because those judgments -- that basic common sense -- is what you want in a president."

http://edition.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/12/09/elec04.prez.gore.dean/

Let's all find ways to show our support for Al Gore! :)

Read Rolling Stone magazine: WHY GORE SHOULD RUN -- AND HOW HE CAN WIN
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/13248532/why_gore_should_run__and_how_he_can_win

Get ready for Al Gore's next book - The Assault on Reason - out in May!
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/16/AR2006091600877.html

Visit the following pro-Gore websites:
www.algore.com
www.algore.org
www.draftgore.com - Sign the petition! :)
www.draftgore2008.org
www.patriotsforgore.com

:kick:

[LWolf]

30. lol

Kucinich/Boxer would be my first choice if I were picking the ticket.
:rofl:
What's "nonsense" to some is "best stance on issues, consistent record working for those issues, therefore best choice" for others. I will never leave issues behind when considering who makes the best candidate.

I would, however, also be pleased to vote for Gore/Feingold.