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wyldwolf
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Wed Jan-31-07 11:40 AM Original message |
Why would anyone have a problem with what Biden said about Obama? |
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LynneSin
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Wed Jan-31-07 11:42 AM Response to Original message |
1. I adore Biden, I like he's my senator but he has said some dumbass things |
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Wed Jan-31-07 11:46 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. we all say stupid things now and then. |
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pnwmom
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Wed Jan-31-07 01:18 PM Response to Reply #3 |
56. Maybe, but I'm sick of my President saying stupid things. |
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cadmium
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Thu Feb-01-07 07:59 PM Response to Reply #3 |
220. I hope Biden doesnt start censoring himself |
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Catchawave
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Wed Jan-31-07 12:21 PM Response to Reply #1 |
24. Joe's not known for "political correctness" |
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pnwmom
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Wed Jan-31-07 01:17 PM Response to Reply #1 |
55. I remember that dumbass comment. |
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IWantAChange
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Wed Jan-31-07 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
2. Bravo Sen. Biden - an honest opinion from an honest man. |
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wyldwolf
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Wed Jan-31-07 11:51 AM Response to Reply #2 |
7. Biden should issue an apology immediately worded thusly: |
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pnwmom
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Wed Jan-31-07 05:50 PM Response to Reply #7 |
116. He didn't say "morally upright," he said "clean." You can say all you want |
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wyldwolf
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Thu Feb-01-07 06:04 AM Response to Reply #116 |
192. which is the same thing according to the dictionary |
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fishwax
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Thu Feb-01-07 03:42 PM Response to Reply #192 |
213. But is not what Biden meant, according to his own comments on the daily show |
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Tellurian
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Wed Jan-31-07 08:51 PM Response to Reply #7 |
147. ....You are.... |
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Leopolds Ghost
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Wed Jan-31-07 09:02 PM Response to Reply #7 |
152. The fact that you guys are so ignorant about African Americans in public life tells me |
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beaconess
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Wed Jan-31-07 09:26 PM Response to Reply #152 |
158. Hear hear!!! n/m |
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Spiffarino
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Wed Jan-31-07 11:46 AM Response to Original message |
4. "Articulate" & "Clean" |
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wyldwolf
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Wed Jan-31-07 11:52 AM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Then I certainly will never call you "articulate" and "clean." |
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Spiffarino
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Wed Jan-31-07 12:06 PM Response to Reply #8 |
16. Then allow me to be more articulate |
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wyldwolf
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Wed Jan-31-07 12:11 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. I just did. In the cubicle next to mine. He said "yes." |
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Spiffarino
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Wed Jan-31-07 12:22 PM Response to Reply #18 |
26. Then I'm happy for him. |
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pnwmom
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Wed Jan-31-07 08:49 PM Response to Reply #26 |
146. The problem may be that the vast majority of white people |
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Leopolds Ghost
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Wed Jan-31-07 09:16 PM Response to Reply #146 |
155. Not if you are unpopular and assumed to be inarticulate (like me). |
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Wed Jan-31-07 12:23 PM Response to Reply #18 |
27. Cool...next time you're out in public with him... |
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wyldwolf
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Wed Jan-31-07 12:31 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. but that wasn't the context of Biden's words |
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ret5hd
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Wed Jan-31-07 04:48 PM Response to Reply #31 |
96. Yeah, I'd be afraid to do it too. |
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Thu Feb-01-07 01:21 PM Response to Reply #27 |
205. I think you've hit on the crux of the problem. |
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Leopolds Ghost
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Wed Jan-31-07 09:11 PM Response to Reply #18 |
154. I'm white, and when I'm called articulate it is usually a backhanded compliment. |
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Thu Feb-01-07 08:12 PM Response to Reply #16 |
222. Depends on who you exclude, and whether you say it with respect or with surprise. |
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Wed Jan-31-07 12:22 PM Response to Reply #8 |
25. self-delete |
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TayTay
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Wed Jan-31-07 12:18 PM Response to Reply #4 |
22. Clean can mean without known baggage |
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Spiffarino
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Wed Jan-31-07 12:50 PM Response to Reply #22 |
37. Never thought of it in the context of unblemished by corruption |
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wyldwolf
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Wed Jan-31-07 12:57 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. that was the entire point of the OP |
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pnwmom
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Wed Jan-31-07 05:33 PM Response to Reply #40 |
106. So? If it WAS his point, he said it very badly. |
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Spiffarino
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Wed Jan-31-07 05:58 PM Response to Reply #40 |
117. If that's the case |
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pnwmom
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Wed Jan-31-07 08:53 PM Response to Reply #22 |
148. Biden says that he meant to say "fresh and new." |
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pnwmom
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Wed Jan-31-07 01:23 PM Response to Reply #4 |
58. I think articulate is a fine word. It's a rare quality in politicians these |
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beaconess
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Wed Jan-31-07 05:25 PM Response to Reply #58 |
101. Most well-educated, accomplished black people are offended when we're called "articulate" |
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pnwmom
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Wed Jan-31-07 05:40 PM Response to Reply #101 |
111. I think you're wrong about that. John Edwards, for example. |
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beaconess
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Wed Jan-31-07 05:47 PM Response to Reply #111 |
114. Apparently, Biden DOES think it's a rare commodity among black candidates |
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pnwmom
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Wed Jan-31-07 06:02 PM Response to Reply #114 |
118. As I said, I've commented on it too. I think MOST Americans, of all races, |
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Leopolds Ghost
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Wed Jan-31-07 09:31 PM Response to Reply #101 |
160. It implies Biden was educated in a Southern school |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood
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Wed Jan-31-07 03:58 PM Response to Reply #4 |
79. Uhm, I'm usually honored when someone calls me those. |
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pnwmom
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Wed Jan-31-07 08:54 PM Response to Reply #79 |
149. Me, too. If someone were to say I was bright and articulate, |
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Leopolds Ghost
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Wed Jan-31-07 09:34 PM Response to Reply #149 |
161. What if they said you were the first bright and articulate white person theyd come across |
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pnwmom
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Wed Jan-31-07 11:41 PM Response to Reply #161 |
181. I totally understand why Biden's statement was wrong. It made me cringe. |
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beaconess
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Thu Feb-01-07 01:44 PM Response to Reply #181 |
208. You've got to view the "articulate" description in context |
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Spiffarino
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Wed Jan-31-07 11:44 PM Response to Reply #79 |
182. self-delete |
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BlueManDude
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Wed Jan-31-07 11:48 AM Response to Original message |
5. I'm sick of this stupid ass 08 election already. |
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Echotrail
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Wed Jan-31-07 01:15 PM Response to Reply #5 |
52. Ditto |
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ItNerd4life
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Wed Jan-31-07 02:00 PM Response to Reply #5 |
67. ROFL! I agree! |
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Leopolds Ghost
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Wed Jan-31-07 09:36 PM Response to Reply #67 |
163. What's superficial about racist remarks? |
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earthside
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Wed Jan-31-07 11:50 AM Response to Original message |
6. I Don't Get It, Either |
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demnan
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Wed Jan-31-07 11:55 AM Response to Original message |
9. I think it's the clean part |
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wyldwolf
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Wed Jan-31-07 11:57 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. "clean" meaning "free of corruption." You believe Sharpton fits that bill? |
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demnan
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Wed Jan-31-07 12:00 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. I don't know you might be right |
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wyldwolf
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Wed Jan-31-07 12:10 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. What was intented and how the left and rightwing choose to interpret it is very telling |
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demnan
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Wed Jan-31-07 12:24 PM Response to Reply #17 |
28. Oh yes |
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wyldwolf
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Wed Jan-31-07 12:33 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. on this, I apparently am |
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pnwmom
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Wed Jan-31-07 05:42 PM Response to Reply #32 |
112. OR they think that U.S. Senator is a dumbass. |
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wyldwolf
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Wed Jan-31-07 06:05 PM Response to Reply #112 |
119. You mean "purposely misinterpreted" |
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pnwmom
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Wed Jan-31-07 08:32 PM Response to Reply #119 |
140. I didn't purposely misinterpret him, and neither did you. |
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beaconess
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Wed Jan-31-07 05:33 PM Response to Reply #14 |
105. Obama is NOT the first non-corrupt black person to run for president |
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Leopolds Ghost
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Wed Jan-31-07 09:41 PM Response to Reply #105 |
165. Don't expect an apology from some folks here. They said they agreed with Biden |
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beaconess
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Wed Jan-31-07 10:17 PM Response to Reply #165 |
174. These discussions are very revealing, aren't they? |
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Wed Jan-31-07 10:27 PM Response to Reply #174 |
180. Yeah -sigh- ..... we're supposed to be the open minded party |
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Guaranteed
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Wed Jan-31-07 10:24 PM Response to Reply #14 |
179. .....Nope. Look at the context. Look at what comes right after it. |
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Leopolds Ghost
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Wed Jan-31-07 09:38 PM Response to Reply #10 |
164. "Mainstream Middle America would not have voted for Mosely-Braun" |
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Patiod
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Wed Jan-31-07 04:23 PM Response to Reply #9 |
94. I think just the opposite |
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Karenina
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Thu Feb-01-07 12:46 PM Response to Reply #94 |
204. It makes me CRINGE! |
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More Than A Feeling
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Wed Jan-31-07 11:58 AM Response to Original message |
11. Here is what Biden is quoted as saying: |
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wyldwolf
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Wed Jan-31-07 12:13 PM Response to Reply #11 |
19. dude, they were discussing candidates! |
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Spiffarino
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Wed Jan-31-07 12:16 PM Response to Reply #11 |
20. Exactly why I say Biden is "tone-deaf" |
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Wed Jan-31-07 12:42 PM Response to Reply #11 |
35. He was talking about the candidates in the interview ... |
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Guaranteed
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Wed Jan-31-07 10:14 PM Response to Reply #11 |
173. "clean and a nice-looking guy"- as in, not physically dirty. nt |
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Wed Jan-31-07 11:58 AM Response to Original message |
12. Not the brightest comment but certainly not the end of the world. (nt) |
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Wed Jan-31-07 11:59 AM Response to Original message |
13. Jesse Jackson is mainstream as far as I'm concerned |
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Wed Jan-31-07 12:06 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. I'm not crazy about the idea for anyone with "Reverend" in his name running |
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Wed Jan-31-07 12:16 PM Response to Original message |
21. And last year, Biden bragged about being from a slave state. |
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More Than A Feeling
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Wed Jan-31-07 12:25 PM Response to Reply #21 |
29. It's like "How many more times does he have to do it before it stops being a coincidence or... |
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RethugAssKicker
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Wed Jan-31-07 12:20 PM Response to Original message |
23. BULLSHIT ! |
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Spiffarino
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Wed Jan-31-07 12:27 PM Response to Reply #23 |
30. I wouldn't go as far as that, but... |
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wyldwolf
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Wed Jan-31-07 12:35 PM Response to Reply #23 |
33. NOT "BULLSHIT" |
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Wed Jan-31-07 04:24 PM Response to Reply #33 |
95. Keyes was a jackass, but Jackson and Sharpton were corrupt? How so? |
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wyldwolf
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Wed Jan-31-07 06:07 PM Response to Reply #95 |
121. you're joking, right? |
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Wed Jan-31-07 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
34. I doubt that "clean" means "no skeletons." That's not how it read to me. |
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wyldwolf
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Wed Jan-31-07 12:48 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. So we should now not use "clean" in regard to being corruption-free? |
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More Than A Feeling
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Wed Jan-31-07 12:51 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. Interesting. |
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wyldwolf
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Wed Jan-31-07 12:55 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. It is interesting |
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More Than A Feeling
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Wed Jan-31-07 12:58 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. Um, that's what your whole thread is about. |
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wyldwolf
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Wed Jan-31-07 12:59 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. um, no, my OP is about Biden's use of the word "clean," |
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Wed Jan-31-07 01:04 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. Biden's background and character are the issue here. |
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wyldwolf
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Wed Jan-31-07 01:05 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. no, the issue is the words he used in describing Obama |
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Karenina
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Wed Jan-31-07 02:53 PM Response to Reply #45 |
68. What a "classic" exchange! |
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wyldwolf
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Wed Jan-31-07 03:41 PM Response to Reply #68 |
73. memo to Karenina |
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Lydia Leftcoast
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Wed Jan-31-07 03:50 PM Response to Reply #73 |
77. No, he just implied that the average black politician is corrupt |
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wyldwolf
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Wed Jan-31-07 04:18 PM Response to Reply #77 |
91. no, he imlied that the other black candidates for president have been corrupt |
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pnwmom
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Wed Jan-31-07 05:12 PM Response to Reply #91 |
98. And he's wrong about Carol Moseley Braun, if that's the case. |
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beaconess
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Wed Jan-31-07 05:36 PM Response to Reply #91 |
107. And he implied that EVERY black candidate was corrupt |
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wyldwolf
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Wed Jan-31-07 06:07 PM Response to Reply #107 |
120. ...no, he implied none have had the same combinations of qualities as Obama |
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beaconess
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Wed Jan-31-07 06:08 PM Response to Reply #120 |
123. And that's wrong, too |
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wyldwolf
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Wed Jan-31-07 06:13 PM Response to Reply #123 |
126. no it isn't. |
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Wed Jan-31-07 06:17 PM Response to Reply #126 |
129. Oh, really? Nice parsing, but that's not what he said. |
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Thu Feb-01-07 06:23 PM Response to Reply #129 |
214. I agree |
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Karenina
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Wed Jan-31-07 06:29 PM Response to Reply #73 |
132. And exactly HOW do YOU know |
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pnwmom
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Wed Jan-31-07 01:07 PM Response to Reply #39 |
47. Biden sounded like a bigot in that comment, just as Jackson did |
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wyldwolf
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Wed Jan-31-07 01:22 PM Response to Reply #47 |
57. Only to those who have an ax to grind with Biden |
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Wed Jan-31-07 05:17 PM Response to Reply #57 |
99. I think about Biden very little. But when I saw that quote, |
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Wed Jan-31-07 01:05 PM Response to Reply #36 |
44. If we mean corruption free, that's what we should say. |
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wyldwolf
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Wed Jan-31-07 01:06 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. LOL! OK... |
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pnwmom
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Wed Jan-31-07 01:11 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. In the context of a TV show, yeah, everyone would understand what |
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wyldwolf
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Wed Jan-31-07 01:13 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. Oh, Look! Josh Marshall at TPM said John Edwards was "clean." |
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Wed Jan-31-07 06:13 PM Response to Reply #51 |
127. And in context, the word has a definite implication |
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Wed Jan-31-07 01:11 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. Since Biden is NOT a policeman frisking Obama...... |
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wyldwolf
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Wed Jan-31-07 01:15 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. saying "clean" is another way of saying that. |
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More Than A Feeling
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Wed Jan-31-07 01:16 PM Response to Reply #50 |
54. What an awful metaphor. |
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Leopolds Ghost
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Wed Jan-31-07 09:50 PM Response to Reply #54 |
167. It's probably the first one that springs to mind for most Americans |
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Wed Jan-31-07 10:22 PM Response to Reply #36 |
177. Just don't put it next to "nice-looking." Gives people the "wrong idea." nt |
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Thu Feb-01-07 01:37 AM Response to Reply #36 |
185. that's not what he meant, according to his comments on the daily show |
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Wed Jan-31-07 01:09 PM Response to Original message |
48. Articulate & clean seems blatantly pejorative of other arfrican-americans |
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Wed Jan-31-07 01:29 PM Response to Original message |
59. Does Obama like fried chicken and watermelon and tap dancing, too? |
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pnwmom
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Wed Jan-31-07 01:31 PM Response to Original message |
60. On top of everything else, Biden's comments were blatantly sexist. |
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Milo_Bloom
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Wed Jan-31-07 01:31 PM Response to Original message |
61. You really don't understand? |
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Wed Jan-31-07 01:35 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. The list of the bright and articulate in the Black world is long, long, long...... |
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Karenina
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Thu Feb-01-07 12:39 PM Response to Reply #62 |
203. IIRC my "Official Codeword Dictionary" |
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Wed Jan-31-07 01:38 PM Response to Reply #61 |
64. Do you really think Keyes is bright? I think he's a nutcake. NT |
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Milo_Bloom
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Wed Jan-31-07 01:50 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. Being a nutcake, doesn't mean he isn't bright. |
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Wed Jan-31-07 01:37 PM Response to Original message |
63. Becuase I have a brain? |
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Lydia Leftcoast
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Wed Jan-31-07 01:47 PM Response to Original message |
65. Because it implies that inarticulate, stupid, and corrupt is |
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DancingBear
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Wed Jan-31-07 03:22 PM Response to Reply #65 |
69. Here is the sad part |
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Wed Jan-31-07 03:39 PM Response to Reply #65 |
72. Exactly Lydia! |
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fishwax
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Thu Feb-01-07 01:49 AM Response to Reply #65 |
186. nothing hard to understand at all |
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Thu Feb-01-07 09:12 AM Response to Reply #65 |
196. Exactly! |
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Wed Jan-31-07 03:35 PM Response to Original message |
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wyldwolf
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Wed Jan-31-07 03:44 PM Response to Reply #70 |
74. Where has it been said or implied they're not? |
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Wed Jan-31-07 03:50 PM Response to Reply #74 |
76. Uhm, this is just a guess, but I think people are reacting to the fact that Biden DID... |
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wyldwolf
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Wed Jan-31-07 03:53 PM Response to Reply #76 |
78. then you're misinformed |
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Solon
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Wed Jan-31-07 04:00 PM Response to Reply #78 |
80. Keyes is more out of the mainstream than Jackson... |
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wyldwolf
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Wed Jan-31-07 04:06 PM Response to Reply #80 |
85. We're not talking about Bill Clinton. |
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Wed Jan-31-07 04:01 PM Response to Reply #78 |
81. Keep digging |
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Wed Jan-31-07 04:07 PM Response to Reply #81 |
86. keep dancing! Have you seen the latest on this from Biden and Obama? |
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Wed Jan-31-07 05:39 PM Response to Reply #86 |
110. and farther down you go! |
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Wed Jan-31-07 04:13 PM Response to Reply #78 |
89. Still ignoring Carol Moseley Braun I see... |
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Wed Jan-31-07 04:15 PM Response to Reply #89 |
90. you see wrong. I address her earlier in the thread |
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Wed Jan-31-07 05:32 PM Response to Reply #90 |
104. That's a muckraking site. That forgets to mention she was exonerated |
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Wed Jan-31-07 06:08 PM Response to Reply #104 |
122. ...that quotes legitimate sources |
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Wed Jan-31-07 08:41 PM Response to Reply #122 |
143. And leaves out the most important information -- that she was exonerated. |
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Wed Jan-31-07 10:17 PM Response to Reply #90 |
175. Except, that's not what he meant. "[C]lean and a nice-looking guy." |
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Wed Jan-31-07 05:20 PM Response to Reply #78 |
100. You're still not responding to the fact |
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Wed Jan-31-07 06:08 PM Response to Reply #100 |
124. ...who was corrupt |
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Wed Jan-31-07 08:57 PM Response to Reply #124 |
150. The Federal Elections Commission and the Justice Department, under |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood
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Wed Jan-31-07 04:04 PM Response to Reply #70 |
84. Newsflash! No one thinks most whites are articulate or bright! |
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Wed Jan-31-07 04:22 PM Response to Reply #84 |
93. Well, there is one thing for sure, Biden isn't that bright or articulate. n/t |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood
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Wed Jan-31-07 04:57 PM Response to Reply #93 |
97. How can he be? His shoe size and IQ match. (nt) |
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Madspirit
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Wed Jan-31-07 03:37 PM Response to Original message |
71. Why? |
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lojasmo
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Wed Jan-31-07 03:47 PM Response to Original message |
75. Well, it's an ignorant lie, for one. |
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wyldwolf
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Wed Jan-31-07 04:01 PM Response to Reply #75 |
82. not hardly |
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Wed Jan-31-07 05:27 PM Response to Reply #82 |
102. She was exonerated, after a 5 yr. investigation. |
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Wed Jan-31-07 06:28 PM Response to Reply #102 |
131. Don't debate with wolf on this one... |
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Karenina
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Thu Feb-01-07 12:34 PM Response to Reply #131 |
202. And Jesse Jackson is a "rabble rouser" |
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Thu Feb-01-07 08:34 AM Response to Reply #82 |
194. "Not hardly"? |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood
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Wed Jan-31-07 04:03 PM Response to Reply #75 |
83. She was mainstream? |
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Wed Jan-31-07 05:39 PM Response to Reply #83 |
109. Excuse me? Carol Moseley-Braun was a U.S. Senator |
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Thu Feb-01-07 09:09 AM Response to Reply #109 |
195. Okay, quick then, name all 100 Senators without using the internet. |
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Thu Feb-01-07 01:50 PM Response to Reply #195 |
209. Can someone be in the mainstream only if YOU'VE heard of them? |
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Wed Jan-31-07 05:46 PM Response to Reply #83 |
113. She didn't have a national following, but many candidates don't. |
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Thu Feb-01-07 08:33 AM Response to Reply #83 |
193. You don't think 20 people watched the Dem primary debates? |
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Wed Jan-31-07 05:38 PM Response to Reply #75 |
108. So were Shirley Chisholm and Doug Wilder and others |
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Wed Jan-31-07 05:48 PM Response to Reply #108 |
115. Ah, but you see, |
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Wed Jan-31-07 04:08 PM Response to Original message |
87. Biden thought he was at the Greenville Country Club for a second |
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Wed Jan-31-07 04:09 PM Response to Original message |
88. If that's what he said, there's nothing wrong with it. |
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Wed Jan-31-07 04:20 PM Response to Reply #88 |
92. Thank you! |
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Wed Jan-31-07 05:28 PM Response to Original message |
103. if you listen to the actual recording of the interview |
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Wed Jan-31-07 06:11 PM Response to Reply #103 |
125. it changes it dramatically |
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Wed Jan-31-07 06:15 PM Response to Reply #125 |
128. well, yeah... |
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Wed Jan-31-07 10:04 PM Response to Reply #103 |
169. Obama is the first mainstream African-American? |
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Thu Feb-01-07 09:25 AM Response to Reply #103 |
198. a comma? |
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Thu Feb-01-07 01:26 PM Response to Reply #198 |
206. it wasn't misheard, it's very, very clear in the recording of the |
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Thu Feb-01-07 01:33 PM Response to Reply #198 |
207. it wasn't "misheard" - it's very clear in the recording that there |
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Thu Feb-01-07 12:03 PM Response to Reply #103 |
199. yeah |
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Joey Liberal
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Wed Jan-31-07 06:21 PM Response to Original message |
130. It helps the republiNazis n/t |
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Wed Jan-31-07 06:30 PM Response to Original message |
133. It would be okay if |
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Wed Jan-31-07 06:33 PM Response to Original message |
134. "electable" is a BS word. means "MSM approved". |
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Wed Jan-31-07 06:42 PM Response to Original message |
135. Dumb statement, but it pales in comparision to some of the other statements about Obama |
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Wed Jan-31-07 06:50 PM Response to Original message |
136. I like Obama, |
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Wed Jan-31-07 08:36 PM Response to Reply #136 |
141. Yes, he did mean to pay Biden a compliment. And yes, in the way he did it, |
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Wed Jan-31-07 09:20 PM Response to Reply #141 |
156. Ahhh Thanks for the clarification. nm |
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Wed Jan-31-07 10:07 PM Response to Reply #136 |
170. Do people with a black accent not sound "smart educated and proper"? |
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Thu Feb-01-07 09:24 AM Response to Reply #170 |
197. A large, very large group people |
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Wed Jan-31-07 06:54 PM Response to Original message |
137. Yeah, he really is |
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Wed Jan-31-07 10:10 PM Response to Reply #137 |
171. People don't realize that this sort of thing became patronizing 100 years ago. |
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Wed Jan-31-07 08:10 PM Response to Original message |
138. because it was assine |
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Wed Jan-31-07 08:27 PM Response to Original message |
139. Biden himself disagrees with you about what he meant. |
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Wed Jan-31-07 08:46 PM Response to Reply #139 |
145. except he doesn't |
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Wed Jan-31-07 09:04 PM Response to Reply #145 |
153. "Clean as a whistle" means "very clean." |
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Thu Feb-01-07 06:02 AM Response to Reply #153 |
190. according to the dictionary I quoted, you're wrong |
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Thu Feb-01-07 07:59 PM Response to Reply #139 |
219. Yes I saw that after you posted |
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Wed Jan-31-07 08:36 PM Response to Original message |
142. Would this be compared to Kerry's gaffe? Frankly, BS. Chris Dodd announce and no one covers it! |
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Wed Jan-31-07 08:42 PM Response to Reply #142 |
144. I've been wondering that myself. n/t |
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Wed Jan-31-07 09:26 PM Response to Reply #142 |
159. Are you a DUer who thinks Kerry's statement about Bush's level of ed. was inexcusable |
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Wed Jan-31-07 08:57 PM Response to Original message |
151. Wow, what a historically ignorant statement. |
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Thu Feb-01-07 06:01 AM Response to Reply #151 |
189. Is it now? What makes your reply so totally ignorant is... |
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Thu Feb-01-07 12:27 PM Response to Reply #151 |
200. SOP. Here's the drill. |
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Thu Feb-01-07 07:12 PM Response to Reply #200 |
218. That's great analysis and insight |
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Thu Feb-01-07 08:18 PM Response to Reply #200 |
223. Damn - that's good! |
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Thu Feb-01-07 12:29 PM Response to Reply #151 |
201. SOP. Here's the drill: |
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Wed Jan-31-07 09:24 PM Response to Original message |
157. The obvious connotation is that he is not one of those "dark-skinned, sweaty preacher types" |
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Wed Jan-31-07 09:41 PM Response to Reply #157 |
166. Joe Biden... |
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Wed Jan-31-07 09:35 PM Response to Original message |
162. Wow, wyldwolf....what can I say? |
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Thu Feb-01-07 06:02 AM Response to Reply #162 |
191. I know what I can say back to you |
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Wed Jan-31-07 09:51 PM Response to Original message |
168. Its one of those 10 foot pole things... n/t |
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Wed Jan-31-07 10:12 PM Response to Original message |
172. What's worse, Biden's supposed unconscious racial bias |
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Wed Jan-31-07 10:18 PM Response to Reply #172 |
176. You can't? Wow. |
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Wed Jan-31-07 10:22 PM Response to Reply #176 |
178. That's right |
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Wed Jan-31-07 11:48 PM Response to Original message |
183. I really don't - this is just another excuse for the circular firing squad... |
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Thu Feb-01-07 12:45 AM Response to Original message |
184. So Shirley Chisholm was inarticulate and unclean, wow! |
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Thu Feb-01-07 01:56 AM Response to Original message |
187. Who are you to decide what African Americans get offended at? |
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Thu Feb-01-07 05:50 AM Response to Original message |
188. Not the first time Biden has opened mouth inserted foot. |
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Thu Feb-01-07 03:24 PM Response to Original message |
210. "Clean Cut" "Clean Cut" He fucking meant to say "Clean Cut" |
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Thu Feb-01-07 03:28 PM Response to Reply #210 |
211. You might want to tell Biden what he meant - he says he meant "fresh and new" |
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Thu Feb-01-07 06:26 PM Response to Reply #211 |
215. White denial is some DEEP SHIT! |
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Thu Feb-01-07 03:29 PM Response to Reply #210 |
212. Biden says he meant "fresh"....just as stupid, IMO. N/T |
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Thu Feb-01-07 06:35 PM Response to Original message |
216. My grandfather once told me |
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Thu Feb-01-07 06:53 PM Response to Reply #216 |
217. Especially if you're a member |
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Thu Feb-01-07 08:01 PM Response to Reply #216 |
221. I dont want Biden to censor himself because a media flap |
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Thu Feb-01-07 08:19 PM Response to Original message |
224. Depends on who you exclude, and whether you say it with respect or with surprise. |
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Mon Feb-05-07 05:34 PM Response to Original message |
225. Lookout: The backlash could be Obama's |
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