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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 03:11 PM
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Obama Freezes Out Fox Noise Channel Reporters


Obama's Grudge Factor

These are chilly days on Capitol Hill ... and on the campaign trail for Fox News journalists -- at least when they're anywhere near Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.).

Sources tell The Sleuth that the Obama camp has "frozen out" Fox News reporters and producers in the wake of the network's major screw-up in running with the erroneous Obama-the-jihadist story reported by Insight magazine.

"I'm still in the freezer," one Fox journalist said, noting that the people at Fox "suffering the most did nothing wrong." (It was "Fox and Friends" host Steve Doocy who aired the Insight magazine piece, which reported that operatives connected to Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) found out that Obama, as a child, was educated at a Muslim madrassah in Indonesia.)

Another Fox journalist called the network's airing of the story "unfortunate" for the network's journalists who have to cover Obama and who are being adversely affected despite not being involved in the incident.

Since the madrassah incident, Obama has given interviews to ABC, CNN, CBS and NBC -- pretty much every other network except Fox. Sources close to Obama acknowledged that they're not thrilled to play ball with Fox journalists, but they stopped short of saying they are freezing the network out.

more at http://blog.washingtonpost.com/sleuth/2007/01/obama.html
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 03:12 PM
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1. Excellent move.
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Joe Bacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 07:18 PM
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37. This action is why I am now supporting him!
FINALLY, a Democrat who stands up to all the shit spitting out of the Fox Noise Network.

This is why I have made my decision to vote and support Obama for President!
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Homer12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 03:13 PM
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2. Awsome For Obama
Edited on Wed Jan-31-07 03:15 PM by Homer12
Fox would just twist and spin his words anyway into their narrow world view. A consquence for their terrible excuse for journalism.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 03:17 PM
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7. Good point... and I'll take it a step further...
Knowing this is their MO, I feel that anyone in public life has the right NOT to speak with them because of their lying ways. When they can get their act together and behave as adults, we'll let them sit at the grown-up table.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 03:26 PM
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14. I agree with you--I'm in favor of a defacto Democratic boycott of the bastards. NT
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Hav Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 03:14 PM
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3. .
Good for him. No material and no stories for them.
Somehow I doubt anyway that the average Fox viewer can be considered as "Obama's base".
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 03:15 PM
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4. Doesn't a "News Editor" have to give their blessings to stories like this?
I would think so! Even if that is not the case, as we learned in kindergarten when one child was unruly, we all suffer. Just deal, Faux News Creeps!!! You choose to take a paycheck (blood money) from those rat bastards, you loose.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 03:29 PM
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16. Exactly... their whining about being frozen out
doesn't get them any sympathy from me.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 03:15 PM
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5. Fox is just the GOP ministry of propaganda
There is no reason for any one to talk to them.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 03:18 PM
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8. Yep
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 11:25 PM
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44. FOXnews will have to parrot the rest of the msm with no interviews from Obama...
sweet!
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 03:16 PM
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6. Yes! Nothing good ever comes from our people talking to the WH News Outlet
I wish they would ALL freeze out Fox.
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A Simple Game Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 04:38 PM
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24. I agree with you for the most part. One exception I can think of
is the Bill Clinton interview with Chris Wallace.

More Democrats need to figuratively slap those idiots up side the head.

In the prior sentence, it wouldn't have bothered me if I had left out the word figuratively!
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 04:50 PM
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26. I must object to your reasoning
All any appearance on Fox does is provide a few minutes of bitch-slapping by our people, then Fox has all of that tape to edit, skew, distort, and replay for days and weeks afterward.

It is a no-win situation.
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A Simple Game Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 05:20 PM
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29. Good point and I stand corrected for being short sighted.
Even with a live broadcast the public will only see the true interview once, after that it will be sound bite heaven for Fox.

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NI4NI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 07:25 PM
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38. you're exactly right!
a no win situation!
I've said it elsewhere, that it's one thing to get ambushed, but another thing to walk directly into where you know one is already set for you.
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 03:19 PM
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9. This is something that
ALL Democrats or anyone else for that matter who is against Bush and his war. There is no way anybody is going to get "Fair and Balanced" coverage on Fox. To appear only gives them some legitimacy which they do not deserve.

I certainly would not waste my 15 minutes of fame at Fox if I were to get that 15 minutes.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 03:21 PM
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10. Well, that only leave Faux with making shi* up and claiming it as news
oh, wait ...
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ripple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 03:21 PM
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11. Excellent move. It'll be especially interesting if he gets the nod
Fox will practically be groveling at his feet if that happens. It's about time someone hold them accountable for passing their shit off as news.




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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 03:23 PM
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12. I like this:
"Another Fox journalist called the network's airing of the story "unfortunate" for the network's journalists who have to cover Obama and who are being adversely affected despite not being involved in the incident."

What are the chances that these network "journalists" aren't guilty of some other stretching of the truth or outright lie pertaining to any circumstance where the truth doesn't suit their agenda. I think they should be removed from the air as a news outlet, or at least demoted to the category of "entertainment" rather than "news".
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 03:25 PM
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13. Smart move--why waste his time? Any asshole who watches that station, except the rare few who tune
in for savage amusement, isn't going to vote for the dusky man ANYWAY.

Far smarter to put energy into venues where you can reach a portion of your potential base.

I mean, really, do you go to church to pick up a whore? Do you go to a hospital when you want a drink? Do you go to a bar for an appendectomy?

Why go to Racist Hateville looking for votes? There's none to be had there.
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 03:27 PM
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15. Awesome... C'mon.. 4 more recommendations for this thread!

I tried to vote this up and realized that I had already!

Error: You've already recommended that thread.


4 more votes for Obama dissing Faux??
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soswolf Donating Member (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 03:30 PM
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17. Like Dylan said
How does it feel? To be on your own...
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 03:34 PM
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18. Well why the hell not?
Faux News went ahead and aired a report that was false. Then, when the truth was discovered, they made a half-assed attempt at correcting it. Barack owes Faux nothing. It's the GOP network of choice, and he is under no obligation to be cooperative with them.

It takes a lot of guts to stand up to the media in this manner, and Barack has earned a few points with me because he's done so. Good for him!
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 03:42 PM
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19. Boo-hoo!
I cry in the general direction of Condi's guys.:cry:
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 03:54 PM
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20. Have Fox or Insight publicly apologized and retracted the story?
Edited on Wed Jan-31-07 04:20 PM by rocknation
If not, I say full speed ahead, Obama!

UPDATE: I found this at Fox News Hounds:

...(O)n Monday (January 22, 2007)...Fox and FriendS...distanced themselves from the story. Co-host Brian Kilmeade noted that the Obama campaign "wanted to correct the record" and insisted that Obama had never attended a radical Islam school. Kilmeade added that the Clinton campaign also called and insisted they had no one researching Obama's background. "There was a firestorm created over that so we just want to say that's the story. The Obama camp was upset so we hope they're not now," he said...


"Insisted?" How about "stated the FACT?" The story was FALSE, not "incorrect." As you were, Obama--FULL SPEED AHEAD!

:headbang:
rocknation
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Cass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 04:24 PM
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21. Good for him. Who could blame him after the lies they aired about him.
They are a propaganda outlet, they are not real news and they do not employ real journalists. They are as phony as $3 bill.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 04:26 PM
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22. Tee hee hee!
I LOVE IT!

Faux Snooze can go Cheney themselves.



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Infinite Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 04:37 PM
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23. Awesome!
"Another Fox journalist called the network's airing of the story "unfortunate" for the network's journalists who have to cover Obama and who are being adversely affected despite not being involved in the incident."

--Well, maybe they should rally against their overseers' bias and they'll have fewer problems in the future.

I'm not behind Obama in his presidential bid purely because of his lack of substance on issues, but he's increasingly turning my head due to his forthright man-handling of those who act wrongly.
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ArbustoBuster Donating Member (956 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 04:47 PM
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25. I bet the line about "the reporters who are being inconvenienced did nothing wrong" is...
...another of Fox's patented "blame the victim" ploys. Fox deliberately spread lies, they got called on it, and they're suffering the consequences. Now Fox is trying to say that Obama is being a meanie because he won't talk to those poor, hard-working Fox reporters!

Cry me a river, Fox slimeballs. If you want people to treat you like something other than dirt, go work for a real news organization.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 09:41 PM
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47. It's also worth pointing out that this is not an isolated incident.
Edited on Thu Feb-01-07 10:41 PM by rocknation
Not long ago, a Fox host offered as proof of Cindy Sheehan's looniness her claim that she was on the shortlist for the Nobel Peace Prize. Radio host Stephanie Miller contacted Cindy, who told her she'd gotten the info from someone at the Associated Press. Stephanie then contacted the AP and learned that the information was correct. "It's called journalism," she cracked. "Try it sometime." (link)

That's all you have to do, Fox! But it's so important to you to undermine a liberal or Dem, you refuse to let the truth get in the way. Then what do you do for an encore? Refuse to admit you were wrong and whine like cranky children when you get caught!

:headbang:
rocknation
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FreeStateDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 04:52 PM
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27. I like Obama's style, when they get it wrong and it's personal let'em feel the disgust..
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Bullet1987 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 04:56 PM
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28. Obama seems pissed...
...And FOX News and people like them need to realize their tactics are getting old and people are getting fed up with the BS stories and lies.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 06:15 PM
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30. Let the people know WHO they are dealing with -- FAUX News deserves no favors
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Tactical Progressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 06:26 PM
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31. See, I don't believe in censorship ...
and since all FOX does is censor the truth out of the news:

Good work, Obama!
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 06:28 PM
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32. from tpm -- From The Horse's Mouth
January 24, 2007 -- 12:41 PM EST

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/horsesmouth/2007/01/post_15.php

OBAMA TAKES ON FOX NEWS.
If this is a sign of how Barack Obama intends to deal with the right-wing media during his Presidential campaign, then I'm all for it.

Obama is aggressively going after Fox News today for pushing that smear-job report claiming that he went to an Islamic “madrassa” school as a child. The report has already been completely debunked by CNN, but Obama isn't letting up. The Senator's office has just emailed out a blistering memo targeting Fox that says the following:

In the past week, many of you have read a now thoroughly-debunked story by Insight Magazine, owned by the Washington Times, which cites unnamed sources close to a political campaign that claim Senator Obama was enrolled for “at least four years” in an Indonesian “Madrassa”. The article says the “sources” believe the Madrassa was “espousing Wahhabism,” a form of radical Islam.

Insight Magazine published these allegations without a single named source, and without doing any independent reporting to confirm or deny the allegations. Fox News quickly parroted the charges, and Fox and Friends host Steve Doocy went so far as to ask, “Why didn’t anybody ever mention that that man right there was raised — spent the first decade of his life, raised by his Muslim father — as a Muslim and was educated in a Madrassa?”

All of the claims about Senator Obama raised in the Insight Magazine piece were thoroughly debunked by CNN, which, instead of relying on unnamed sources, sent a reporter to Obama’s former school in Jakarta to check the facts.

If Doocy or the staff at Fox and Friends had taken

All of the claims about Senator Obama’s faith and education raised in the Insight Magazine story and repeated on Fox News are false. Senator Obama was raised in a secular household in Indonesia by his stepfather and mother. Obama’s stepfather worked for a U.S. oil company, and sent his stepson to two years of Catholic school, as well as two years of public school. As Obama described it, “Without the money to go to the international school that most expatriate children attended, I went to local Indonesian schools and ran the streets with the children of farmers, servants, tailors, and clerks.”

To be clear, Senator Obama has never been a Muslim, was not raised a Muslim, and is a committed Christian who attends the United Church of Christ in Chicago. Furthermore, the Indonesian school Obama attended in Jakarta is a public school that is not and never has been a Madrassa.

These malicious, irresponsible charges are precisely the kind of politics the American people have grown tired of, and that Senator Obama is trying to change by focusing on bringing people together to solve our common problems.


This is exactly the right thing to do: Take these guys on very aggressively, and above all, single out by name the people who are lying about you. Wrap their lies around their necks.

Let's hope we see lots more of this.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 06:33 PM
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33. Fuck those ass holes.....
They aren't Journalists at all.....
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 06:45 PM
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34. The Democrats should have done this LOOONG ago. Good for him.
May the wisdom spread.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 06:58 PM
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35. He won't pick up a single vote by pandering to FAUX. Big Dog took on
Chris Wallace right where it counted and I applaud it, but Obama has ZERO to gain from dealing with that propaganda machine.

Again--excellent maneuver. :patriot:
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 07:16 PM
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36. HA HA!
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 07:38 PM
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39. I love it! Thanks for posting this!
Grudges can be a very good thing. You can't be nice to people like that. Fuck Fox.

YeaaaahhhhHHHHHHHHH Baaaaaaaaaby!!!
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 11:12 PM
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42. you're welcome
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 07:53 PM
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40. Three points for Obama.
:evilgrin: Shut Fox News out of the room, give interviews to REAL news networks.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 09:10 PM
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41. How can you not love this guy?
Great stuff from Obama!
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 11:20 PM
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43. I'm surprised Chris Mathews didn't lead today off with FOX getting shut down by Obama!!
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 11:35 PM
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45. Good for him! Finally!
but what has taken us so long to DO this is what I want to know! This has been going on for the whole time faux has been on the air...

I hope to see LOTS more of this DEMOCRATS!
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 11:45 PM
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46. Obama handled this really slick, giving interviews to ABC, CNN, CBS and NBC
Hannity will be crying the blues saying; "why won't Senator Obama allow me to interview him?"
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