WTF? Iran And The United States Already Sparring On The Ground?

[babsbunny]

BAGHDAD, Iraq - Citing Iranian involvement with Iraqi militias and Tehran's nuclear ambitions, the Bush administration has shifted to offense in its confrontation with Iran — building up the U.S. military in the Persian Gulf and promising more aggressive moves against Iranian operatives in Iraq and Lebanon.

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The behind-the-scenes struggle between the two nations could explode into open warfare over a single misstep, analysts and U.S. military officials warn.

Iraq has become a proxy battleground between Washington and Tehran, which is challenging — at least rhetorically — America's dominance of the Gulf. That has worried even Iraq's U.S.-backed Shiite prime minister, who — in a reflection of Iraq's complexity — also has close ties to Iran.

Iran and the United States are already sparring on the ground.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070131/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iran_war_clouds;_ylt=AiyZKMWC0uv..ipz9P5yzd.s0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA2Z2szazkxBHNlYwN0bQ--

[fooj]

1. I'm sick to my stomach over this...

Damn him.

[Mnemosyne]

2. My stomach aches too, fooj.

:hug:

[beachmom]

3. Another example of Bush being a dumbass

Um, Iran isn't the only one meddling in Iraq's affairs, and I'm not just talking about Syria. It's due to the complete lack of diplomacy that this slow disaster is happening. I can't overemphasize how HIGHLY I am opposed to starting a war with Iran. Stupid, stupid, stupid.

[lyonn]

10. Right, Iran isn't the only country meddling in Iraq affairs

Bush seems to want chaos in Iraq, it opens the door to more chaos. Why should our troops, at this stage of the war, be sitting smack in the middle of a civil war when they could and should be protecting Iraqs borders. At least that is some of the reasoning for Iraq being a mess is the interference from other countries.

[Loge23]

4. A drunk bully at the wheel

That's what we have in place of a rational leader in this country (The U.S. - All I know about the Iranian President is what the propaganda machine has told us).
Like the proverbial bully on the block with no friends, the moron-in-chief goes on picking fights with opponents he thinks are pushovers (Iraq & Iran), while staying clear of the real tough guys (North Korea).
Meanwhile, all hell breaks loose around him leaving a mess for others to clean up.
PLEASE, PLEASE SOMEONE!! Impeach this idiot and his master NOW!!
We are just about out of time. This thing with Iran will not end nicely. This time, we may very well wake up a very cranky giant sleeping panda.

[Doctor_J]

5. Any war with Tehran won't be fought on the ground for long

About the only disaster that Smirk hasn't already committed is using nukes, and I believe that's what he will do once war with Iran is declared. It only remains to be seen if enough Limbeciles can be sold on the fact that this is a good thing.

[AndyTiedye]

8. Nobody Can Stop Him

About the only disaster that Smirk hasn't already committed is using nukes, and I believe that's what he will do once war with Iran is declared. It only remains to be seen if enough Limbeciles can be sold on the fact that this is a good thing.

It won't matter what any of us think anymore once the nukes are flying. :nuke::scared:

[endarkenment]

6. Translation required: "Citing Iranian involvement with Iraqi militias and Tehran's nuclear ambitions

BULLSHIT spewed to justify completing the neocon mission.

[Gloria]

7. Check out what Brzezinksi will be saying tomorrow in testimony...

http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/001916.php

Zbigniew Brzezinski Calls Iraq War a Historic, Strategic and Moral Calamity & Says Stop the Trappings of Colonial Tutelage

SENATE FOREIGN RELATIONS COMMITEE TESTIMONY -- ZBIGNIEW BRZEZINSKI

February 1, 2007

Mr. Chairman:

Your hearings come at a critical juncture in the U.S. war of choice in Iraq, and I commend you and Senator Lugar for scheduling them.

It is time for the White House to come to terms with two central realities:

1. The war in Iraq is a historic, strategic, and moral calamity. Undertaken under false assumptions, it is undermining America's global legitimacy. Its collateral civilian casualties as well as some abuses are tarnishing America's moral credentials. Driven by Manichean impulses and imperial hubris, it is intensifying regional instability.

2. Only a political strategy that is historically relevant rather than reminiscent of colonial tutelage can provide the needed framework for a tolerable resolution of both the war in Iraq and the intensifying regional tensions.

If the United States continues to be bogged down in a protracted bloody involvement in Iraq, the final destination on this downhill track is likely to be a head-on conflict with Iran and with much of the world of Islam at large. A plausible scenario for a military collision with Iran involves Iraqi failure to meet the benchmarks; followed by accusations of Iranian responsibility for the failure; then by some provocation in Iraq or a terrorist act in the U.S. blamed on Iran; culminating in a "defensive" U.S. military action against Iran that plunges a lonely America into a spreading and deepening quagmire eventually ranging across Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, and Pakistan.

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[lyonn]

11. The phrase, "...that plunges a lonely America..."

The speech written above so clearly sets out where America is at this moment. bush leaves little doubt where he wants to take this country. And yes, we need many more hearing in fact start impeachment hearings on the issues/lies that bush has admitted to like skipping over the FISA courts, and putting those 16 words in the SOTU address when he was told months before by the CIA not use them, and other lies he has made to the people who elected him and he took an oath to protect.

[BlueIris]

9. The first place I started getting REAL worried about Iran b/c of was DU in March '05...

where I read that we were already in Iran! That Special Forces had been there for months. I didn't know whether to believe those rumors or not, but it looks as if they were, in some sense, reasonable.

[Muddy Waters Guitar]

12. So the US and Iran are already at war

Not surprised. Depressed, but not surprised-- Seymour Hersh called this over a year ago. This is exactly how that disaster of WWI got started, things just spiraling like this.

It's just evil what Bush and Cheney, and the neocons are doing. Then again, it's prowar Democrats like Hillary Clinton and Tom Lantos who have enabled the Rethugs to do this and given it a "bipartisan" veneer, with their own hawkish statements and stands against Iran rather than calls for engagement. Shame on them.