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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 01:05 PM
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Lieberman On Appointment Of Kiley: ‘It’s A Good First Step’
He doesn't appear to 'get it' either.

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/02/imus-lieberman/

Lieberman On Appointment Of Kiley: ‘It’s A Good First Step’ «

This morning on his radio show, Don Imus questioned Sen. Joseph Lieberman (I-CT) about his reaction to the conditions at Walter Reed, saying, “If you’re somebody who thought the war was such a wonderful idea, as you did, and continues to support this idiotic exercise… have a special responsibility to know what the hell has happened to these kids.” Lieberman responded, “We all ought to be doing mea culpas. ”

Lieberman also claimed the replacement of Maj. Gen. George Weightman with Lt. Gen. Kevin Kiley at Walter Reed was “a good first step.” Imus responded, “It’s an absurd first step. didn’t have anything to do with this. He’s been in charge — that’s a big scapegoat deal and you know that.” Watch it:

Transcript:

IMUS: I had Senator John McCain on — I can’t remember when it was. It was yesterday…

LIEBERMAN: Yes.

IMUS: … or the day before. And I asked him — and he’s the one who took me and Charles and Bernard over to Walter Reed. He told me he didn’t know what was going on there.

LIEBERMAN: Yeah.

IMUS: And do you think he is telling me the truth?

LIEBERMAN: I do. Of course, I do.

<…>

IMUS: It would occur to me, Senator Lieberman…

LIEBERMAN: Yes, sir.

IMUS: … that, particularly if you’re somebody who thought the war was such a wonderful idea, as you did, and continues to support this idiotic exercise that you — and probably you sit on some of these oversight committees…

LIEBERMAN: Yes.

IMUS: … that you would have a special responsibility to know what the hell has happened to these kids.

LIEBERMAN: Yes.

(CROSSTALK)

IMUS: It’s not enough to say you didn’t know or you didn’t ask the right questions. I mean, that’s why we elected you.

LIEBERMAN: We all have responsibility. And I will tell you very personally, because I have supported the war and continue to believe that we’ve got to do everything we can to have it end successfully, I have a special responsibility. And so, you know, we all ought to be doing mea culpas.

<…>

IMUS: How do we get this fixed?

LIEBERMAN: Well, I think the first thing is to hold people accountable. And, you know, General Weightman going is a good first step. The Armed Services Committee…

IMUS: Well, it’s an absurd first step. He didn’t have anything to do with this. He’s been in charge — that’s a big scapegoat deal and you know that.

LIEBERMAN: Your questions about General Kiley are very good questions, and I’m going to ask him. Because this, after all, is the guy that was in charge for a couple years.

IMUS: Well, he’s a lying skunk. He ought to be forced to resign today, Senator.

LIEBERMAN: Of course, I don’t have that exact authority.

(LAUGHTER)

But I will tell you that — I’m on the Armed Services Committee. The Armed Services Committee oversees the medical hospitals. And a group of us on the committee are going out there this afternoon. And I am going to ask some of the tough questions that you and a lot of others…

IMUS: See if they’ll let you, Senator Joe Lieberman, walk around without being escorted by four or five of these generals who’ve known about this for years.

LIEBERMAN: Yes.

IMUS: I mean, did you read Dana Priest and Anne Hull story in The Washington Post yesterday, that General Kiley’s been up there testifying before your committee and lying to you, Senator…

(CROSSTALK)

IMUS: … lying to you and these other people. He’s lying to you.

LIEBERMAN: I agree.

Look, this is the guy that was on top of the institution. It is not — it’s a good sized hospital, but it’s not a city. And this was a building that was an important part of that. So, look, he should have known.

<…>

LIEBERMAN: Part of this, Don, was that the whole response never lived up to the increasing demand on the Army medical system or the military medical system after Iraq.

IMUS: Well, that’s not a good excuse.

LIEBERMAN: Well, no, it’s not an excuse. It’s an explanation.
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 01:08 PM
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1. Excuse me, can I swear? Lieberman, go fuck yourself. then get a new job.
and shut up.
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sallyseven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 01:51 PM
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8. Sounds good to me. He should get out of the
Senate right now.
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 01:09 PM
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2. Joely Ho — Getting the most basic truths dead wrong, as usual
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 01:09 PM
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3. I have a question for Harry Reid...
When will he strip LIEberman of his chairmanship?

http://mediamatters.org/items/200702240001

Why hasn't Harry CORRECTED the fallacy that the Dems would lose MAJORITY unless they court LIEberman? Don't we deserve a response to this important piece of info? I certainly think that we do.

Does anyone else have a problem with this? I want some answers. I've written to the Senator but I've yet to receive a reply.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 01:15 PM
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5. Everyone is scared to death of this horrible old man. He's
Edited on Fri Mar-02-07 01:16 PM by acmavm
comfortable lying, and when he gets nailed on his lies he just switches into another gear and starts lying about his lies.

No one is going to get rid of them, that would take guts, balls, never, bravery, whatever you want to call it. They'll lay there like dogs and let the old man walk all over them forever.
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SutaUvaca Donating Member (472 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 01:12 PM
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4. Joey ain't gonna get it,
that, in this case at least, Imus rants for any caring American. His rage with HolyJoe is how many many feel about the treatment of our vets. Listen to him Joe - don't go investigating only what the lying generals want you to see.
Mea Culpas indeed. How about you stop supporting the criminally neglectful Joseph.!?
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 01:23 PM
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6. Uh, yeah....sure, Joe
New Walter Reed commander has also ignored complaints about conditions

Kiley ran Walter Reed before becoming the Army’s surgeon general. During that time, Kiley ignored multiple complaints about the facility from soldiers and veterans groups. From this morning’s Washington Post:

(A)s far back as 2003, the commander of Walter Reed, Lt. Gen. Kevin C. Kiley, who is now the Army’s top medical officer, was told that soldiers who were wounded in Iraq and Afghanistan were languishing and lost on the grounds, according to interviews.

Even now, Kiley has claimed the problems at Walter Reed’s infamous Building 18 “weren’t serious” and he has attacked the media’s coverage of the issue as ??one-sided.” “I want to reset the thinking that while we have some issues here, this is not a horrific, catastrophic failure at Walter Reed,” Kiley has said.

UPDATE: John Aravosis reminds us that Kiley took no action when informed that a soldier was sleeping in his own urine.


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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 01:30 PM
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7. mea culpas my ASS--hari kiri is what is required of honourable people--oh, wait, never mind!!
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 02:16 PM
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9. "General Weightman going is a good first step". The article assumes that Joe
approves of Wiley.

Shoddy journalism.:-(
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