Is it a tad early for Obama to be making calls all over the country for donations?

[LittleClarkie]

I just got one of those calls. Have we even determined if this is indeed him. The telemarketer was polite enough, but persistent even though I said I wasn't really a supporter of his guy. He wanted money, to which I answered that I hadn't picked a candidate yet, and then I hung up. Just seems so damned early for this stuff.

[FrenchieCat]

1. It's never too early for money......

in fact, it's all about the money....

If you get another call from the campaign, tell the person that they should simply find some right wing person that every Democrat hates to call the candidate some terrible name. Heard that this does wonders for raising funds! :shrug:

[Clark2008]

7. SNARK!!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[venable]

11. Is it possible, Frenchie Cat, that you can not be snide about Edwards

even in your much ballyhooed and self-referenced, and self-referenced again and again, silent six months.

The thead is about Obama, for heaven's sake.

it's really too much. do you have any idea how transparent this behavior is, and how many people just roll their eyes at this stuff.

and please don't call me thin-skinned about this. you know and I know what you are doing. if you are honest, you will not deny it.

I expect, in response, another reference to how you have been silenced.

[FrenchieCat]

12. No, you misunderstood....I didn't say I would be "silent".....

I didn't see anyone's name mentioned in my post above.....so I believe that I'm OK.

Let me check with my censor masters.....

Ok...I'm back.

They had me re-read my OP that you are referring to...and it reads,


"I will not question anything that John Edwards or any other candidate are saying for the next six months.

Although I will want to, I will not.

Mark the anniversary date - August 25, 2007.

Good luck to all candidates and their supporters!"
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/FrenchieCat/98

I think that I'm OK.
Thanks though for reminding me of my own rules for myself! :hi:

[venable]

16. not an honest answer

you take an obama question, and make a snide remark about Edwards.

whatever.

You are not censored, unless you censor yourself. and if you do, why do you keep telling us?

[venable]

17. who cares about your self-censorship rules?

It doesn't matter to me...what matters is the pointlessness of the obsession, and it's disruption of real discourse ---- a thread about Obama strikes you as a perfect opportunity, yet again, endlessly, to make a snide remark about Edwards.

I didn't think so before, but I am beginning to agree with those who have suggested that you are obsessed with Edwards because Kerry picked him. You think he picked the wrong Southerner. Fair enough. Your opinion. That's not what this thread was addressing.

Your reply to my previous post was not honest, IMO.

You know what you are doing, as does everyone. You just refuse to own up to it.

[FrenchieCat]

19. I do not need an Internet censorsitter.....

You can pull out what you want from my comments.....

But I'm asking you to stop personally attacking me right now, which is all that you are doing.

Last time we spoke I mentioned that I was not going to question what the candidates said in terms of insisting on what I thought. I mentioned to you that I didn't feel that you were one of the ones that I necessarily felt was into these sorts of personal attacks. However, today, you have demonstrated that you actually are one of those who would attempt to stop what others have to say by criticizing them personally.

So when you point your finger at me and make statements like:
the pointlessness of the obsession
you are obsessed with Edwards because Kerry picked him
You just refuse to own up to it
disruption of real discourse
Your reply to my previous post was not honest
snide remark about Edwards
who cares about your self-censorship rules
not an honest answer
do you have any idea how transparent this behavior

You have let it be known that you are indeed a poster that personally attacks others when you don't like what they say. Your attempts in censoring me instead of simply being most mature and ignoring my comments if you don't like them are not appreciated. You are not here to tell others what they can and cannot say. I'm not sure why you think you have that right when you don't.

You need to stop it.

You can respond to this if you want, but as of today I won't be seeing it. I don't need to tell you why, because it is against DU rules...

[venable]

24. sincerely sorry about this, but my candidate is insulted by you endlessly

and I point this out, gently at first, and then without equivocation. this is not censorship.

for those reading this, clearly not Frenchie Cat who will no longer see my posts, be assured that I have never attacked her personally, though I have characterized her endless string of insults to Edwards as obsessive and not honest. this, all should know, is not intended to be censorship.

[GreenPartyVoter]

2. Not really. The main reason primary candidates drop out is due to dough more

than anything else.

[LittleClarkie]

3. It just seems nutty because I could get calls from all of them

and how could they expect me to give to them all. I'd have to have picked one by now to want to give money to him or her. And it's way to early for me.

[GreenPartyVoter]

10. Another reason to back publicly financed campaigns.

[nevergiveup]

4. I got a call like this

the other day. I drilled him on Obama's views just to see if he was legit. He was young and excited about his candidate and very knowledgeable about Obama's positions. I told him it was too early for me to give money and then thanked him for being involved.

[LittleClarkie]

5. I reacted like he was a garden variety telemarketer and hung up quick

because I tend to be a soft touch and I didn't want to be talked into anything.

[nevergiveup]

8. I have the same problem

of being "soft" in these situations but it is so early I didn't really have any guilt about not giving even though I like Obama.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

6. No.

Wait 'til Jeb calls...

[Forkboy]

9. No

:shrug:

[trof]

13. Same here. Got a call a few days ago.

I politely explained that we're retired, on a VERY fixed income, and would save whatever contribution we might be able to make until we had chosen a candidate. I also said that I did like Obama.

The young man thanked me and hung up.

And let me say this about political contributions...
In the 2004 election I was DETERMINED to do anything I could to get Bush out of office. I liked Dean, early on, and contributed to his primary campaign. After the corporate MSM chose to make him out to be a raving madman :-( and he fizzled, I supported Edwards.

I was lukewarm on Kerry, but contributed to the Kerry-Edwards campaign. This was so important to us that we gave far more money than we could really afford. Had to take in our belts and cut back on our budget for months after.

And now...I am on the 'list' of every Democratic politician in the country. I get dozens of e-mails and mail solicitations a week. I guess it's understandable in a political system where "Money is the mother's milk".

But it sure is discouraging.
:shrug:

[flpoljunkie]

14. MSM will be placing great emphasis on who can compete with Hillary--1st fundraising reports due 3/31

There are already estimates of what each campaign can expect to bring in this first quarter.

It is obscene, I agree. I wholeheartedly support public financing of campaigns on the federal level and Congress making the tv networks sell free and/or very reduced rates for commercials. I'd also like to see the return of the $100 income tax credit for political deductions that we had a number of years ago.

Public financing does require candidates to gather small amounts from large numbers of citizens to qualify for the public funds. But this will never happen, if the American people do not wake up and demand it.

[MGKrebs]

15. When HC has a $20 million head start, I would say no.

I imagine if they get resistance they will cool it down a little for a while, but as long as they are being productive, they should go for it.

Someday maybe we will have a system without fixed election dates so that we can minimize the campaign period, but that is not the case at this time.

[IndianaGreen]

18. There have been some DUers that have posted about questionable calls attributed to Obama

In one case, widely discussed here, the caller demanded a minimum contribution of $150. The DU consensus was that these calls were not legitimate calls from the Obama campaign, but a dirty trick from either the GOP or from a Democratic candidate fearful of an Obama candidacy. DUers that support John Edwards posted about a similar incident last year, before Obama entered the race, in which they received calls alleging to be from the Edwards campaign which turned out to be a campaign of disinformation.

The rule of thumb is: never respond to a telephone solicitation, for anything or anyone!

Contribute directly to your preferred candidate.

[sandrakae]

20. He doesn't know any better. After all it is to damn early for him to even be running for President.

He hasn't completed one term in the United States Senate. He is not qualified, yet he through his hat int he ring, ruining his chances for when it would be the right time.

[Colobo]

21. The right time, according to some people, would be never...

[sandrakae]

22. Im not one of those people.

[Learn2Swim]

23. No.