Clintons push to create a 20-state super primary on Feb. 5, 2008...Funny

[carpe diem]

thing happened on the way, in their effort to make sure Hilliary got the nomination nailed down in one day.....


Clinton courts black support amid Obama surge

(excerpts)

Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton personally lobbied Sellers, the son of 1960s civil rights activists, who defeated an incumbent six decades his senior last year.

But he's about to endorse Illinois Sen. Barack Obama and offered some friendly advice for the former first lady about winning the African-American vote.

"For her sake, she needs to get Bill Clinton out there a lot more," said Sellers, one of a half-dozen South Carolina politicians set to endorse Obama.

Her advisers had planned to hold Bill Clinton off the campaign trail until later in the race. But a stunning surge by Obama among black voters in recent weeks has made the former president's help "all the more pressing," according to a person close to the campaign.

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But longer-term problems loom, exacerbated by the Clintons' own push to create a 20-state super primary on Feb. 5, 2008. Many of the states scheduled to take part -- including Alabama, Mississippi and Florida and Georgia -- are dominated by black voters. That was fine in pre-Obama days, but now she's in for a fight against a racial native son.

"The Feb. 5 primary amplifies the Democratic vote in the South, and this is a region where blacks play a very, very strong role," said Joe Reed, a Democratic National Committee member who runs the influential Alabama Teachers Association.

It's not clear if Clinton needs to win a majority of African-American primary voters to take the nomination, but she has to fight, aides say. And that's why Bill Clinton -- famously mothballed by Al Gore in 2000 -- is coming back to center stage so quickly in the campaign.

"Hillary's in a battle and she needs her best artillery," said New York-based political consultant Hank Sheinkopf, who advises Alabama Democrats. "Bill's the best artillery."

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/ny-ushill0304,0,7221890.story?coll=ny-top-headlines

[Raine]

1. I'm sick and tired of the Clintons

I wish they would both just go away. x(

[tblue]

2. I am more tired or Republics. I wish they'd go away.

[BayCityProgressive]

4. I think they are power mongers

who don't really have any ideology. They just want power. Clinton was more than happy to go along with all kinds of right wing ideas and so is his wife.

[Learn2Swim]

14. ladies and gents...

^ we have a bingo.

[Raine]

5. So am I

that's why I want the Clinton's to go away they are going to screw it up so the rethugs get back control plus another term in the Whitehouse. :-(

[Miss Chybil]

8. I'm with you. Republicans wear me out. I'd rather have a Clinton,

or an Obama any day.

[NDP]

22. I'd rather have anybody other than a Republican or a Clinton, and I won't be voting for either

[Miss Chybil]

23. That's what it's all about. In America, you get to vote for who you want.

Whether your vote is counted, or not, is up for debate, but the appearance of choice is still there and I really enjoy that right.

[NDP]

21. I wish the Clintons and the Republicans would go away. Do we have to have a Bush or a Clinton as

President? I don't think so.

[Forkboy]

3. A classic case of "Be careful what you wish for."

[BamaLefty]

6. It will be interesting

I'm going to Selma tommorrow. I bet you anything that Hillary and Bill draw more black support than Obama.

Black Alabamians love Bill Clinton. They like Obama. But Clinton is right up there with FDR and MLK in many people's minds. Yes, he is.

[illinoisprogressive]

7. I agree with Raine. I am sick of the Clintons.

someone said any politican would pale standing next to Bill. I wonder if someone could do a picture of Obama and a picture of Bill and place them side by side and see how that theory holds up

[carpe diem]

9. i think it'll be a close call...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/03/02/wus02.xml

[bahrbearian]

11. Do you think that Selma will decide anything?

[AshevilleGuy]

10. President Gore better come into the race soon, if he is going to. NT

[LiberalFighter]

12. Presidential primaries/caucuses need to be regulated

A starting point for debate.

Split the country into 6 or 7 districts. States within those districts would be permitted to have their primary on a date restricted for the Super Primary. States in other districts could not have their primary on the same date. States that don't participate in the Super Primary could have their primary on a date after the Super Primary in their district that is also not on the same date as another district's Super Primary. Super Primaries would be held 2 or 3 weeks apart from each other.
It would take 3 to 4 1/2 months.



Except for Hawaii and Alaska districts would consist of states that would adjoin each other.

ME, NH, VT, MA, RI, CT, NJ, DE, DC, MD, NY, PA, VA, WV, OH, IN, MI, KY

TN, NC, SC, GA, FL, MS, AL

ND, SD, MN, IA, IL, WI, NB

KS, MO, OK, AR, LA, TX

CA, NV, UT, AZ, CO, NM

WA, OR, ID, MT, WY

AK, HI

[election_2004]

13. Well, if you're going to limit the # of states that can hold a primary on a certain date.....

...I think it would be better to mandate that a state from each region is represented for each calendar date. Otherwise, some candidates would have a geographical advantage.

[LiberalFighter]

15. I'm not mandating... I prefaced it with this as a starting point for debate

[election_2004]

16. I just hate the idea of regional primaries

Why disenfranchise entire parts of the country in favor of one narrow region?

[LiberalFighter]

18. One narrow region?

I don't see this as one narrow region. If anything this is nothing more than a small general election. An election that forces the candidates to campaign in all of the district instead of just 1 or 2 states. In one way it might be more cost effective for the candidates both transportation and media costs.

Someday we may end up with a national primary in May or June and the winners of the primaries would campaign for the general election.

[FrenchieCat]

17. If Bill Clinton had that type of a primary schedule facing him......

he would not have become President......from where I sit.

Ironic.

[MaineDem]

19. How do we know the Clintons have been pushing for this "super primary"?

Because Newsday says so?

Honestly...

[KingofNewOrleans]

20. I agree, the super-primary

has little to do with the Clintons. Individual states have been pushing forward for their own reasons and egos. It looks like a horrible idea to me though. After NH on the 22nd there will be 20 states to campaign in, in only 14 days and candidates from both sides of the aisle competing for attention.

[atranssexualgirl]

24. Hillary Clinton before the Iraq war and what she said!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_KEWUU33Lg

one comment from the Youtube

"Hillary did her research. Saddam had to be replaced with force. Oh now she was fooled. Now its Bushes war. Just the leadership we deserve if she gets elected. "

[jcrew2001]

25. Edwards

I think Hillary and Obama supporters will split the vote and Edwards will get the Nom.