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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 03:05 AM
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Does anyone else wish Edwards' reponse hadn't included a request for "Coulter cash"?
Maybe I'm wrong, and I welcome agreement or disagreement. (And I like, and could easily support, John Edwards as the Democratic nominee.)
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 03:14 AM
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1. I contributed
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 03:16 AM
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2. Probably the best response possible -- thanks! nt
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 03:22 AM
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3. I remain undecided, and he didn't get a dime from me, but I thought it was a neat trick
Basically, he used the smear as an opportunity to fundraise a hundred grand. In order to make the sale, he had to throw back at her, and use her name.

That's clever marketing. Talk about turning trash into treasure!
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 03:30 AM
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4. It puts me off...
and I'm not sure why. Perhaps it gives me the sense that he's lessening the severity of the offense by using it as a fundraising opportunity.

I just feel it sounds like "ooh, I was victimized - send me money!" I think I would've preferred a more direct response that rises above electoral politics and fundraising.
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evilkumquat Donating Member (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 03:55 AM
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5. It Felt Like a Pizza Belch
Edited on Sun Mar-04-07 03:56 AM by evilkumquat
Burping up a pizza reminds one of a nice meal, but the taste is tinged with the sour tang of stomach acids and other internal nastiness.

I wish more than anything else that Democrats would stick to the high ground and never, EVER stoop to the cowardly and hypocritical depths to which the GOP regularly limbos, but as a pragmatist, I know if we do not do so, those evil bastards will continue to walk all over us on their way to the National Archives to wipe their asses with the tattered remnants of our Constitution.

Evil Kumquat
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 03:56 AM
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6. Obviously, there are two divergent reactions ...
... to this -- and they are BOTH valid.

So it comes down to a matter of personal opinion.

My opinion is that it's a brilliant marketing tool, and I wish more Dems would use it. You're NEVER as apt to whip out the ol' checkbook as when you're truly pissed-off at something, or someone, and you can use your dollars to support their undoing.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 04:06 AM
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7. i didn't like it
the phrase "coulter cash" is rather crude (like the bitch herself) and rather classless (also like that bitch)

i thought edwards had a bit more class than to jump on this to raise money for the campaign.

to point out to the american public how the right uses cheep shots and name calling would be one thing--but to try to capitalize on it takes you down the same road the repukes travel.

i won't be donating over this.



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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 04:16 AM
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8. I think it's a great way to mock her
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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 04:32 AM
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11. As if of all things this action would make her feel mocked
this is a creature with no shame and no heart. Edwards raising a little money (which she's probably atleast savvy enough to know is going to a dead-end campaign) isn't going to effect her in the least.
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 05:33 AM
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12. And now she'll be crowing about....
how her attack on Edwards was one of his greatest money raising events and if it wasn't for her he'd be penniless. She will, you KNOW she will. She doesn't live in a fact based reality. She lives in Annthraxville, a twisted and diseased place that only makes sense to her and the marginal crowd that actually listens to her.
Edwards should have put the smack down on her. He should have made every Republican at that event publicly denounce Annthrax's remarks. Trying to make money from it wasn't the right thing to do. Stepping all over her and her toadies was the right thing to do but he missed the chance.
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venable Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 10:14 AM
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21. dead end campaign?
you and a vocal handful of DUers think so, but the country doesn't, the polls don't.
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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 04:30 AM
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9. Yeah, pretty much
It shows a desperation which I can understand and feel sypathetic about. Luckily I don't have plenty of extra cash so I didn't give that much though to coughing up.

I'm still on Edwards mailing list after supporting him at various times in '03/04.

For me its between Clark and Obama right now.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 04:30 AM
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10. I think it's a great idea
Let the bitch give him an unwilling fund raiser.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 06:46 AM
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13. I believe it's called a "Ceasar's Revenge" fundraiser. n/t
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Inspired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 08:29 AM
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14. I thought it was brilliant. n/t
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randr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 08:47 AM
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15. I thought it was trite and missed the target
I would love to see Edwards. or anyone slandered by her rudeness, show up face to face at one of her "events" and slap the shit out of her.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 08:49 AM
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16. I know what Edwards should have done:
Edited on Sun Mar-04-07 08:56 AM by MethuenProgressive
He should've responded with a request for his supporters to send donations to a group that directly defends gay rights. After all, the remark insulted them, not him.

Elizabeth Edwards: "Although her words did not hurt us, they may have hurt some in the gay community. We are all sick and tired of anyone supporting or applauding or introducing hate words into the national dialogue, tired of people thinking that words that cause others pain are fair game. And we are sick and tired of people like Miss Coulter thinking that her use of loaded words about the homosexual community in this country is remotely humorous or appropriate."
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NDP Donating Member (375 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 09:12 AM
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17. DU logic: Edwards, yes, Dean, no. No consistency
Edited on Sun Mar-04-07 09:12 AM by NDP
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 10:01 AM
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19. Coulter called Dean a slur? Show me where Dean asked for money here:
http://www.democrats.org/a/2007/03/dean_blasts_ann.php

"There is no place in political discourse for this kind of hate-filled and bigoted comments. While Democrats and Republicans may disagree on the issues, we should all be able to agree that this kind of vile rhetoric is out of bounds. The American people want a serious, thoughtful debate of the issues. Republicans -- including the Republican presidential candidates who shared the podium with Ann Coulter today -- should denounce her hateful remarks."
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NDP Donating Member (375 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 11:23 AM
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24. The point is, Dean used attacks on him as fundraising drives and the DU went bonkers to appease him
If John Edwards does the same, he gets criticized for it.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 11:26 AM
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26. This is very different. This was not an attack from another candidate —
or even from an opponent. It would've been understandable if Edwards had called for donations to a gay rights group or the Gay Men's Health Crisis, etc.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 10:35 AM
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22. What are you saying?
What does this mean?

"DU logic: Edwards, yes, Dean, no. No consistency"
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NDP Donating Member (375 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 11:24 AM
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25. It's pretty simple. Dean did the same thing. What candidate doesn't?
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gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 09:33 AM
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18. They either have a tin ear or need the money really badly.
The subtle humor/irony of the attempted judo throw doesn't translate into print. It looked like classless money grubbing. The bad taste of it weakened the media frenzy against Coulter.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 10:03 AM
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20. Yeah, it just didn't seem right, somewhat clumsy. NT
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 11:13 AM
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23. It was a horrible response by the Edwards campaign.
I really enjoy John Edwards, obviously. But calling for money as a response? That really turned me off on the whole situation full circle, and instead of a passionate response they ask for my money?!? It was obviously a stunt to try and turn the outrage into $$$
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 05:14 PM
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27. Careful there
You may have to borrow my avatar if this keeps up ;)
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 07:58 PM
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28. I contributed. As a Deaniac, I took many swings at the bat
when he was fielding insults and attacks from all different directions--including fellow Dems.

As the mother of two sons, one of whom is gay, I was personally insulted by Coulter's comments. I hadn't intended to make donations to any candidate until the first set of Dem debates, but Coulter pissed me off so much I decided to go ahead and give Edwards some bucks.
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1932 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 08:01 PM
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29. It reminds me of how a gay bar had people pledge for every minute that a
hateful anti-gay reverend picketed outside it. When the guy realized how much he was raising for an AIDS charity, he left.
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