Kentucky Fried Hillary

[seriousstan]

http://www.ifilm.com/profile/breitbart/video/2829104

[ShortnFiery]

1. But I say, I say son, bring in the chickhawks who wanna fry up ole' Hillary.

:rofl:

[ShortnFiery]

But her Republican Right Wing Opposition act like rotten School Boys

with German Accents. ;)

[babylonsister]

2. Spare me! ARRGGGGHHHH! nt

[Roland99]

3. Did she give the whole speech like that or was this an intentional and announced...

attempt to sound Southern? I'm curious as to what the min. or two of the speech before this part sounds like.

[papau]

4. Sounded the same - she spent how many years in Ark? - seems more like

speaking Spanish in front of a Hispanic crowd then anything else.

But I guess there is now a "one sound/all locations" requirement lest you be called "not genuine".

[Roland99]

9. And how long ago was that? 15 years? Everyone mocks Dumbya when he does it

but now some are giving Hillary a free pass?

[DemBones DemBones]

16. People are giving Obama a free pass when he

sounded Southern without ever having lived in the South! He even said "y'all."

Edit: I'm not supporting Clinton or Obama, just for the record.

[Roland99]

18. Is there a link to a clip of Obama?

[papau]

20. Link below - 6 minutes - the "Y'all" is at 5:58

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vue55Ipk-Dc

[zulchzulu]

26. I'm a "Yankee" and I saw "y'all" sometimes

Granted I lived in NOLA for a spell...

[Eurobabe]

78. Me too, I lived in central Virginia and I say ya'll ocassionally

But I am a Yankee at heart.

[Roland99]

31. Talk about making a mountain out of an anthill. Good grief!

That's NOTHING compared to the Panderer. NOTHING.

Heck, I was waiting for that 5:58 mark and still it barely registered.


"yall".



Geez...that's causing a fuss?

[papau]

48. Hillary had a handful of slipping into Ark rhythms, and one planned phrase - and that was

enough to get folks to call her panderer?

At least she spent much of her life in the south talking in southern rhythms. Obama seems to have done a few y'alls (the u tube one is not the only time he's y'all'ed) and somehow that is not pandering.

In my opinion this is one of the more stupid attempts to slime an opponent on DU - and in the media.

[ElizabethDC]

10. She DID NOT speak like that during the whole speech

she was quoting an old hymn or something. She did havea Southern accent that came and went during the speech, but she just used this for that one part.

[Roland99]

11. That makes it even more pathetic, imo.

[ElizabethDC]

13. Why? She just used an accent to quote something . . .

hardly unusual.

[Roland99]

14. Highly Pandering is what I'd call it.

[NYCGirl]

64. When someone quotes a hymn in a church, it's perfectly appropriate.

That's not pandering.

[Roland99]

66. But not normal to adopt a ridiculous accent

Who is she? Alex Trebek reading some Italian or Spanish phrase?

[NYCGirl]

69. If it's WRITTEN in the dialect (as this was) it is. She wasn't very good at it, but

that's completely besides the point.

[Roland99]

73. True The point is that Hillary is the WORST panderer out there on the Dems' side

no matter what she said in Selma and how she said it.

She's a DLC-dandy and still doesn't get it.

[NYCGirl]

74. That's your opinion. NT

[job777]

77. and the more

she opens her mouth the worse she gets. This is not working out very well.

[a kennedy]

5. Kinda reminds me when Oprah has on a fellow Black on her show....

Oprah sometimes falls into that "girlfriend" talk.

[babylonsister]

7. Reminds me of dimson. nt

[bigdarryl]

6. talk about PANDERING!!!!!

[Learn2Swim]

8. lol...

that was funny

[mtnsnake]

12. How little it takes to amuse you! nt

[DemBones DemBones]

15. Why is no one jumping on Obama, who said "y'all" and spoke in

very Southern cadences? He said "Don't tell me I'm not coming home when I come to Selma, Alabama." OK, dude, but you're NOT from around here, though you're sure trying to sound like you are.

I'm not supporting Clinton or Obama but this jumping on Clinton while giving Obama a pass is stupid.

[Alhena]

17. Because Obama pulled it off a lot better than she did

[ElizabethDC]

19. Or maybe because people are just more suspicious of Hillary's intentions

in general? She's accused of pandering in every move that she makes, even when other candidates do the same thing. There's a definite double standard just because of who she is. Obama's the new kid on the block, so he's often given the benefit of the doubt. But it's understandable, and they both have their strengths and weaknesses.

[AZBlue]

51. He panders better than she does??

LMAO!!! Wow...at least someone doesn't try to cover up their Hillary-hate blinders!

[Roland99]

32. I guess metaphors are lost on some people

*sigh*

[AtomicKitten]

21. if I didn't know better

I'd swear I was on FreeRepublic some days. Seriously. Vote for somebody else in the primary - by all means - but this 24/7 effort to smear and ridicule one of our own candidates is just disgusting.

[mtnsnake]

23. No kidding

I can have a thread locked for calling Democrats chickenshits because they don't have the guts to follow through with cutting funds for the illegal war, yet the rumor mill is allowed to slander our top Democratic candidate around the clock in thread after thread. Figure that.

[zulchzulu]

25. Could you imagine if Kerry had done such a prank...

I think, again, it's Senator Clinton's own words and actions that are the issue here... the audio was not tampered with...it was her. Why on Earth would she resort to that obvious political pratfall?

If Kerry had done such a ridiculous bit of pandering, I would have called his office non-stop until I talked to him personally. And I would have told him to shut his piehole if he thinks about do something like that again... if Obama did the same sort of thing, I would lose a lot of respect for him as well.

The junior Senator from New York is providing her own material for those that think she is unelectable. It's that simple. It has nothing to do with Freeper this or Hillary Hater that... it wasn't even a good Southern accent. I've lived in the South and can tell a Yankee phony from the real thing...

I respect you greatly, but surely you must see this...


On Edit: My laptop keys are...well...laptop keys.

[AtomicKitten]

27. pandering?

[zulchzulu]

28. The big difference between Kerry's photos and Senator Clinton's southern "accent"

Kerry ACTUALLY wind surfs, hunts, plays guitar, plays football with friends (and maybe has a photo taken in a moment that shows some humanity) and can salute because he was a soldier. There is nothing phony in ANY of those photos...well, the one of him coming out of that tube was unfortunate. :->

If Kerry dressed up like a knight, I'd be a bit perplexed. As far as I know, he's not a knight...

[AtomicKitten]

36. and ...

Hillary ACTUALLY talks.

Give it a rest. Just as people who support Kucinich get sick and tired of people slamming him for being allegedly unelectable based on purely subjective reasoning, Hillary supporters object to the same.

Yet both are running for president and both deserve some goddamn respect on these boards.

At the very least stop pretending the gratuitous bashing is anywhere in the neighborhood of constructive criticism.

You and others here are proof-positive that Democrats are one dumbass party when it comes to preservation of self-interests.

[ProSense]

37. And what do you

prove?

You and others here are proof-positive that Democrats are one dumbass party when it comes to preservation of self-interest.

That apply to you in any way?

[AtomicKitten]

38. yet again you must be reminded Kerry isn't running for president

Z-zulu brought up Kerry insinuating he didn't pander, I reminded him that he, in fact, did.

It's called politics. Some are excused, others eviscerated. And so it goes. And we expect ZERO insight into that from you and the rest of your gang, as always, although I notice you have perched here ready with your same old, same old nonsensical retorts to any real or imagined slights of Kerry.

[ProSense]

41. Some get criticized. "It's called politics." n/t

[AtomicKitten]

46. your bitterness is unbecoming

The fact that you and other Kerryites plot in your forum about annihilating Hillary 24/7 isn't a big secret around here. Most adults can process their disappointment - you and your gang are acting out your bitterness and disappointment by trash-talking other candidates who are running and actually have a chance at winning. God forbid someone else would succeed where Kerry failed.

[ProSense]

49. Paranoia is unbecoming. Me bitter?

:hi:


Nah, just critical!

[zulchzulu]

39. Well, you sure were quick with the Kerry "pandering" photos...

I'm assuming your conditions that Kerry was "pandering" are based on the "fact" that he left the Democratic party; otherwise your logic that he doesn't deserve respect is due to him not being a "real" Democrat, hence you are a member of the dumbass party as well...

Breath. In... out... ah...

[AtomicKitten]

42. AGAIN -- Kerry isn't running for president.

.... now run along and commissurate with the other Kerry people who act out their bitterness that he isn't running on candidates who are.

[ProSense]

44. It has been announced. What's your point? n/t

[zulchzulu]

45. So since Kerry isn't running this time, he doesn't get respect like others?

C'mon.

Checkmate.

New game?

[AtomicKitten]

47. the actual candidates are unique and different in that regard

which must come as a big surprise to you and your friends.

you haven't finished the game you started ...

[zulchzulu]

53. Me and my friends?

How did you know? We (and you know who we are) meet beforehand and then go AIM each other off our MySpaces...then we gang up on anyone who is for Senator Clinton...wait...just got another IM... oh, yeah...and we...wait...another IM...hold on... um....can I get back to you...tnx!

[Forkboy]

68. It's a vast left-wing conspiracy

By the way...our meetup this week is at the secret hideout.

[ProSense]

34. This a photo thread?

http://news.yahoo.com/photo/070305/480/iacn10203051831/print;_ylt=AlAPNF3EPVQB88IjrEUo9FpsaMYA">

http://news.yahoo.com/photo/070305/480/iamp10403050339/print;_ylt=Ak7u0Li_jlzERpxqdjvhbmJsaMYA">

http://news.yahoo.com/photo/070303/480/cacc10803032057/print;_ylt=Aoj0uru3.2B3YaKjhNoWKg9saMYA">

http://news.yahoo.com/photo/070226/480/nydd10102261933/print;_ylt=AuELuLfIvfOHW8p7hFHPkdxsaMYA">

[AZBlue]

54. Again, I must ask you of your post(s): what does that prove? What's the point?

You just like to see your name in print, huh??

[ProSense]

56. It was a response to

this.

Now may I ask, what's the point of your question and snarky remark?

[AZBlue]

58. Well, goooollly, thanks for the clarification.

:sarcasm:

Truth hurts, huh? Take a breath and think about it and learn from it...

[ProSense]

61. Well, there you have it, the reason for your response. n/t

[Forkboy]

67. I learned both Kerry and Hillary are panderers

And that we have at least one flaming hypocrite on DU.

Glad I took that breath or I would have never learned that. :thumbsup:

[MH1]

63. Hey thanks for that link, I just found out

I can see comments that are otherwise hidden, if they are linked like that!

I was wondering who posted the photos you all were talking about! And exactly which photos they were!

Hey those were actually all pretty good photos of JK...I even like the clean room suit - I've worn one of those myself a few times (not at the same place, lol)... it does kind of piss me off when people make fun of it, because it only proves they have NO IDEA what wearing a clean room suit is about - some of us are kind of proud of doing that sort of job. Go Kerry!

[mtnsnake]

60. Here's another photo. It's title is called "Running Mates"

[ProSense]

62. Nice photo of Kerry! n/t

[mtnsnake]

29. Did you say IF he had ever "done such a ridiculous bit of pandering"?

I think you should check out a few pictures adjacent to this post. lol

[zulchzulu]

33. Read my response to the photos...

Notice that Kerry was windsurfing, was playing guitar, was hunting...you know why? Because he actually DID those things. He wasn't propped on a surfboard, handed a guitar and acted like he played or was handed a gun and acted like he hunted...

He really does those things in real life. Some may have thought that what he actually does was "pandering", but they were usually Bush supporters.

Senator Clinton, on the other hand, can't do an authentic Southern accent to save her...ah..whatever...

Tag. You're it.

[MH1]

40. Yeah, let's see...

Kerry was on the cover of American Windsurfer in 1998. But, if he actually goes windsurfing during a campaign to relieve stress, it's pandering! Of course! Don't you see the simple logic here?

Hmmm...Kerry was in a band in high school called the Electras, and they even put out an album...but if he picks up a guitar and plays it - YES - pandering!! (oh, he was pandering again recently, at his stepson's wedding reception, where according to the gossip columnist he - gasp - played Ring of Fire! Pandering, I tell you!)

Never mind that he's been a hunter all his life... still pandering!

Don't you GET it? It's Kerry, so it doesn't matter how long he's actually done these things, it MUST be pandering!

:sarcasm:

:banghead:

[snowbear]

22. Her voice is like fingernails on a chalkboard ..

Very grating on the nerves!!!!

[Superman Returns]

30. Her voice is a bit annoying isn't it

But, I like her. She's my second favorite candidate.

[zulchzulu]

24. Dis musta been Carville Le Turncoat's idear...

Great Googley Moogley...that was downright....odd...

[zulchzulu]

35. Upon further review, I agree with Talking Points Memo's assessment

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/horsesmouth/2007/03/yet_another_win.php

Watch the clip:

http://blip.tv/file/get/Tpmmedia-HillaryIDontFeelNowaysTiredBiggerExcerpt835.wmv

The soundbites (while a tad awkward) were taken out of context and cheery-picked, Gee, where have I seen that before...

I agree with Greg Sargent's assessment:
"Look, Hillary's real sins here were being corny as hell and painfully tone deaf. But phony this wasn't."

On that note, Senator Clinton needs to be a little more careful...

[MH1]

43. Isn't breitbart known as a right wing nutjob?

Just checking... seems TPM got the goods on this story.

[zulchzulu]

50. Agreed...TPM nailed it

I don't know, however, if the newly spawned "gaffe" can be stopped in the MSM. The edited video is now in heavy rotation.

Note to Senator Clinton: when going into character to read a quote in a Southern accent, preface the quote with "he might have sounded like this..." or something.

[ProSense]

52. Details

here.

[Melissa G]

55. I'm on dial up at home so i can't comment on the Hillary clip

but while I am from Texas folks often say I normally sound like I'm from New York, mostly because I talk fast..
Anyway, I was giving a speech once at a pretty large rally and walking on I had no sense of the way the microphone was pitched. When I heard what came out, it was either go southern or sound really silly. Since it was a viable, somewhat authentic option for me, you can guess what i chose.

just saying..a weirdly pitched mic can move you to unexpected choices to keep up your momentum.

[AZBlue]

57. Why are you promoting THE DRUDGE REPORT here on DU???

That's where this trumped-up, twisted story came from.

Hillary's quoting a southern hymn - and she affected the southern accent to express the words as they would have been originally stated. The only thing she's guilty of is a bad accent.

[Capn Sunshine]

70. We ALL know why

This same thing happened last election cycle.
There's a lot of money available to compensate online keyboard warriors to befuddle the gullible Dems who post online at places like DU.
I take notes.

[Mass]

59. SO, when are we going to talk about issues and not about what the RW media want us to care about.

Every single politician will have a moment of pandering (assuming this is what it is about, which is not even sure). This is part of the job.

But is it important to spend our on how Hillary speaks, Coulter's insulting Edwards, or Obama's slave-owners ancestors.

Or can we speak about what is going to affect our life in the next 6 years at least: where candidates stand on issues.

[Forkboy]

71. Not singling you out Mass

But I really,really hope people here remember that the next time the Right hangs the red-meat known as Nader under their noses so we can lap it up like dogs while the Repubs fuck the country even harder.

[AtomicKitten]

65. Proved to be bogus

here:
http://rawstory.com/showarticle.php?src=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.talkingpointsmemo.com%2Fhorsesmouth%2F2007%2F03%2Fyet_another_win.php

[wyldwolf]

76. ah! The Hillary haters on the right AND the left are shot down again!

[mtnsnake]

72. Hello? seriousstan?

Who's laughing at who now? Looks like the bad guys pulled the wool over your eyes and half the people on this thread. lol

[eridani]

75. Tone deaf as all get out. However--

--it really fries me that Bush gets a free pass from the MSM for far worse offenses in that line. He even had a totally phony "ranch" built for the purpose.

[Ninja Jordan]

79. RW garbage