Limbaugh- Edwards "Breck Girl" would be "First Woman President"

[Phoebe Loosinhouse]

I listened to Rush for about 5 minutes today while driving around. He calls Edwards "the Breck Girl" and according to his piercing, biting, scintillating, cutting edge, wit - Edwards would be the first "Woman" President.

Is he attempting to piggy-back onto Ann Coulter's comments?

Is this their greatest insult? When it all comes down to it, is the right's greatest weapon simply accusing progressive figures of either being "womanly"( i.e. gay , or the f word as used by Coulter) if they are men or of being "manly" (i.e. lesbian) if they are women?

Boy, they are really trying to play the homophobic trump card often and early. And yet, ironically, why do they seem to have all the secret gay porn people like Jeff Gannon and Matt Sanchez as undercover "manly" Right Wing Spokespeople?

Who besides me finds all of this quite weird, manipulative, and cynical?

[cloudbase]

1. We all know

that Kay Bailey Hutchison is the real Breck girl in Washington.

[tridim]

2. Or Jeff Christie..

What's the deal with these guys anyway? They're more than just simple freaks, it's like regression to grade school playground talk.

[Botany]

10. or that Jeff Christie was picked up for ....

... solicitation of male prostitutes in Pittsburgh PA in the 1970s.

Keep talking Rush.

Although he could have sex with a tranny hooker on a park bench @ noon
in Washington Square Park NYC, as he was eating Oxy, and his fans would
yell "Mega Dittos."

Check it out Freep - Tards .... if you want I'll try post an arrest record.

3 wives and no kids hmmmm

[Joe Bacon]

43. Now why did Jeff Christie have that VIAGRA on his recent romp?

Why, I'd sure like to know, wouldn't you?

too bad our Whore Press covered that up...

[Joe Bacon]

44. Now why did Jeff Christie have that VIAGRA on his recent romp?

Why, I'd sure like to know, wouldn't you?

too bad our Whore Press covered that up...

[Cha]

66. I thought that was kate

o'byrne?

[KingofNewOrleans]

3. I'm sure it sounds funnier

if you're doped up on prescription pills.

[Cha]

67. Yeh, that oxycotin must

be a laugh a second..and I don't even want to know how stupid you have to be to listen to that braincelless mope.

[saltpoint]

4. Actually it sounds as if Rush is pining for a gender-variant White House.

That's damned odd coming from a conservative talk host.

[onehandle]

5. Pay attention, Democratic Underground...

They fear Senator Edwards in a major way.

There is a reason.

[Clark2008]

6. No - they really don't.

I'm sorry, but they do not fear him.

[UnyieldingHierophant]

16. I'm with you, they don't fear Edwards*

[ddeclue]

25. Then they are foolish....

Edwards is the candidate... Hillary is the straw woman.


Doug D.

[Divine Discontent]

22. I have to soundly disagree

and as a fellow clarkie (he's my #1 choice, and I wanted him to be pres in 04), one has to only see who the right keeps pushing as the front runner (hillary) and talking about how she's unbeatable, as the one they hopefully will get to run against, heck even some of the fundies gave donations to her, and then they want obama. They are uneasy about Gore, Clark, and Edwards. There attacks on Gore are just that he's crazy and enviro nut and that he is a presidential loser, and that edwards is a VP loser and they question his manhood and call him the f word and attack him every chance they get, all while hoping hillary is our pick.. sorry, not interested unless it's her or a repub!

and as for our boy, clark (see "wesley clark call to arms" on youtube of the video I edited, he's sooooo powerful with his words), there's something going on there, because he goes on there show but they cower when he speaks and it's as if they wish so much, out of all our candidates that he was a nutcase like them, and in turn, sorry - he's not interested, either!

www.cafepress.com/warisprofitable <<<--- 2008 stickers and shirts, anti-bush stuff!

[venable]

63. they do fear edwards

a republican pollster who I spoke to two days ago thinks Edwards has the strongest profile to do real damage in 08. She said this is a common feeling amongst Republican strategists.

[TomInTib]

7. That's it. They have ID'ed the target. eom

[AshevilleGuy]

12. Yes. They know which Dem(s) can win and which can't.

Edwards and Gore they fear.

[jobycom]

15. They are doing it to each of the candidates.

I'd say they have Edwards third on their list, as long as Clark and Gore stay out. Of the three main attention-getters so far, I suspect they'd most like to run against Edwards. He blew the debate against Cheney something fierce. He's a trial lawyer with only one term in the Senate for political experience. He's a blank slate they can write whatever they want on. And most importantly, he said a lot of nice thigns about the Iraq invasion early on, so every time he criticizes the handling of the war, they will trot out his Larry King statements, or his attacks on Dean for being against the war, etc.

I'm not saying any of their points are valid, or that they are right to consider him that way. It may bite them. But that's how they see it. They are laying the groundwork for their attacks in 2008.

[Divine Discontent]

27. well, I have to agree

I was EMBARRASSED for Edwards in the debate... my GOSH did he SUCK as*! it wasn't even a competition and I furious he kept repeating Kerry's name when he was clearly asked not to and kept laughing it off, looking like a rookie. Goodness, if given a second shot I hope he doesn't bomb like that again, cuz that hurt Kerry with swing voters who saw him as not worthy to lead if Kerry died in office.

[jobycom]

29. He'd do better, I'm betting.

First, he was a trial lawyer, I'm sure he's got experience at watching his own performance, evaluating it, and correcting it. Second, I suspect he's gotten professional advice on what he did right and what he did wrong. Keep in mind, that debate was coming off Gore's performance, and the media had convinced everyone Gore had been rude (even though the post-debate polls showed people though Gore won). So Edwards was trying to be "nice."

Plus, Edwards and Kerry had vowed to run a clean campaign, and I think that through Edwards off a bit. He confused "clean" with "passive," I think.

Third, if he doesn't do better in debate, he won't make it through the primaries, anyway.

[fuzzyball]

37. I think it is easier to fool a hand picked jury than debating with a

seasoned pro of the opposition party. A trial lawyer gets
the benefit of many man hours of research by his legal staff and
himself to prepare the case. Political debates require quick on
your feet responses made possible by in depth experience of political
life.

Surely a brain surgeon or a rocket scientist is a lot smarter than
any repuplic candidate, but they won't stand a chance in a politiical
debate.

[jobycom]

47. Some valid points, there, but a trial lawyer also debates other attorneys

and has to make arguments before judge and jury based on constantly changing circumstances, coming from the other attorney. It isn't just memorizing speeches. And I'm sure candidate Edwards has more researchers than attorney Edwards to help him prep. You compare a jury to the debate opponent, but the jury is comparable to the audience, while the opposing attorney is comparable to the debate opponent. The other attorney tends to be shrewd, too.

[ddeclue]

28. Don't be silly...Edwards did extremely well against Cheney...

My cat could do well against Cheney because he is so dislikeable though...

I supported Kerry from the beginning in '04 but I must tell you that even then, Edwards was the best pure campaigner in either party in '04...he has Bill Clinton's charm without his eye for the ladies...

The main reason that Kerry won the nomination is that he was a better organizer, not a better campaigner.

It's BEST to not have a lot of "experience" for 2008 candidates at this point...Experience is what the voters DON'T want - that's what they got from Cheney and Rumsfeld was "experience"..

They want fresh faces and new people and that's why Edwards will do well. Digging up old Larry King videos is pointless - it's a fluff show and 4 year old footage will not mean anything to anyone at the time.

Edwards is no doubt first on their list - If you don't have a Southern candidate, you aren't going to win the White House in '08... Hillary can't carry any votes outside of the Northeast and West Coast. Obama will do better but I don't see him winning the White House. Clark doesn't have a chance - he didn't in '04 either... he doesn't have the charisma and he isn't that great a speaker.

The only real consensus candidate would be Al Gore - I think we could all agree on that - and all the bumper sticker has to read is "I told you so - Al Gore '08". Gore could win in 08 if he runs.

Doug D.

[jobycom]

30. Heh. If you say so.

Look, nobody including Edwards thinks he did well in that debate. As for the argument that Kerry won because he was a better organizer but not a better campaigner--that's like saying Bill Gates is rich because he's a better businessperson, not a better programmer. Even if it's true, so what? The results are the same. Organizing is a big, if not the biggest, part of running a long campaign.

If you really like Edwards and want him to win, you need to accept his past mistakes, analyze where he really is, and go from there. The Republicans clearly don't see him as most threatening. Instead of denying the obvious, use it. They won't be expecting him. That's another thing Kerry did well in '04--he let the Republicans (and other Dems) overlook him, so he could be less bloody going into the final stretch.

Edwards has a lot of virtues, and I may even wind up supporting him (though he's way down on my list) but pretending or even convincing yourself that he has more than he does won't help him win, it will just make you more bitter when he loses.

[fuzzyball]

38. Yes my two dogs did not like Cheney either

He was too mean looking even for my dogs LOL.

[underpants]

54. I disagree Edwards and everyone else are being completely ignored

I doubt it is just to "sell newspapers" by making it Hillary vs. Obama they don't want people to find out how many ways their views are represented in the Democratic party. They are freezing out Edwards and Richardson (how many people have heard what he did in Darfur?) and the rest of them.

Edwards was fantastic in his debate against Cheney IMHO.

[PaDem]

56. Two days ago Limbaugh was doing the same with.........

Bill Richardson, calling him America's first "North Korean President".

[Webster Green]

8. Oxycodone and Viagra cocktail..

Settle down pigboy.....Edwards is married!

[AshevilleGuy]

9. I don't get it.

I know that the RW has little or nothing to hit Edwards with, but to try to convince people that he is gay?? That is pathetic. There are lots of celebrities, reporters and other TV personalities who I suspect are gay, but John is absolutely NOT one of them. I am myself, so I do have some insight into this. Of course he is good looking but that is irrelevant to that question.

Could the undecideds and other marginal voters be brainwashed into thinking he is? Possibly. It is impossible to prove that one is 100% heterosexual. Should John be worried about this?? Probably not.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

20. They're trying to portray Edwards as not "manly." While Dim Son is out attacking brush...

John Edwards is in shampooing his golden locks. Unfortunately, the same dumbasses who bought into the fake cowboy act will fall for this Edwards "girlie-man" crap. Alternatively, they'll portray Hillary or any other female candidate as less-than-feminine and bitchy, with a twist of lesbian. And it's working - an acquaintance of mine who considers herself a Dem once thought fairly highly of Hillary. This woman watches CNN ad nauseam and now it's "Hillary is such a bitch" and "can you believe that fake Southern drawl?". <Shaking head that this stuff actually works on people...>

[tanyev]

26. Let's see...didn't Rush get picked up for having Viagra with someone else's name in his bag?

It doesn't get more manly than that.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

50. Wasn't that when returning from the Dominican Republic...

after a performance-enhanced vacation with underage children? Yeah, he oozes manliness, and Lord knows what else.

[Cabcere]

42. "It is impossible to prove that one is 100% heterosexual."

Unless one is Ted Haggard and has gone through rehab. :eyes:

[AshevilleGuy]

48. Yay-yus-UH!! Forgot about tha-yut-UH!!!

How could I have been so remiss? Why I could be hetereosexual in three weeks!!!

[jobycom]

11. It's part of the typical conservative strategy of turning a strength into a weakness.

They did it to Gore, making his tremendous accomplishments and well-known honesty seem delusional and exagerated. They did it to Kerry by making people question his heroism.

You've hit it with Edwards. They are playing on homophobia, but they are also taking Edwards' noted attractiveness, his mojo, and trying to turn it around. Edwards' was noted for his appeal to women because of his looks and his machismo. Dems have an edge already with female voters. So they are trying to craft Edwards' image, so that when people look at him, instead of his looks they see a poser who worries too much about his hair, and seems slightly effeminate. Keep in mind the Southern strategy, too. Edwards' is from the South, and could have an appeal there. The South is one of the most non-tolerant parts of the country, so having people think "gay" or even "girlie-man" when they see Edwards practically destroys Edwards in the South. Or so they hope.

That's their strategy. They are starting to circulate emails about Hillary using aggressive language to turn her image as a strong leader into an image of a shrew. They are trying to bring up Obama's race by claiming he's "practically" white--this not only turns those who might vote for him because he's black, but it also reminds the racists out there that he is black. It's early in the primary season, so these are trial balloons, to fine-tune their attacks for when the election gets serious.

That's how they operate. If the election is ever about issues, they lose. They have no issues, and they have a history of failure when in charge. Their only plan is to make voters despise their opponent more than the voters despise the Republicans.

[FrenchieCat]

14. I agree with your analysis. n/t

[iamjoy]

13. Maybe Edwards Would Be The First Woman President

In the same way that Clinton has been called the "First Black President."

I've never quite seen him as the true champion of women's rights (not that I have any complaints on that front), his passion is for poverty.

But, let's face it, he is sexy. And I think the fact that he's faithful (to his wife) makes him sexier.


Breck girl, indeed.

[ddeclue]

19. Limbaugh is just upset that he is younger than Edwards

but much fatter, balder and more of a horse's ass...

:)

Doug D.
Orlando, FL

[Cabcere]

39. Is he really?

Younger, I mean. ;) (Everything else checks out.)

[ddeclue]

45. Oops I'm wrong...

Limbaugh - Born Jan 12 1951
Edwards - June 10 1953.

Limbaugh is 30 months older...

Oh well.. he looks 30 YEARS older...

Doug D.

[ddeclue]

17. You know that they live about 400 yards from each other

in Palm Beach Florida don't you?

Coulter and Limbaugh are practically next door neighbors...are you really surprised by Limbaugh's comments?

Will someone kindly tell DoctorShopper and MannCoulter to sit down and shut up....

Doug D.
Orlando, FL

[TheCowsCameHome]

23. They probably sleep in the same cage, too.

[hobbit709]

18. Oxycontin boy thinks he's a wit

He's half right.

[TheCowsCameHome]

21. He's a vile, disgusting pig - and he said this:

He said something about "what kind of gown Edwards would wear if he won the presidency"

Then he was cut off (haha) because the Red Sox game came on the station he broadcasts on locally.

[niyad]

24. what pisses me off is the notion that being a woman is somehow "less"--that

being a woman is somehow insulting.

[jobycom]

31. Yes, that's a big part of it, too.

The Repubs always play on racism, misogyny, and all forms of bigotry. Their insults always focus on making the candidate look non-white, non-male, and non-hetero. Everything not a white male is inferior to them.

The good news is that white males are only about 35% of the population now. Sooner or later, their strategy will backfire. I really feel 2008 may be that year.

[Cabcere]

40. I hear ya.

That pisses me off, too. :grr:

[benny05]

32. NY Sun did use First Woman

On Edwards today, or so I read.

[agincourt]

33. Limbaugh needed to be shut up long ago nt

[Colobo]

34. This is proof Republicans are ready for defeat

They have absolutely nothing solid against our strongest candidates, so they are just trying to smear them with high school tactics, appealing to the most stupid, mentally challenged elements of their constituency.

[InvisibleTouch]

35. What's really going on here...

...is that the rethugs are jealous they don't have such handsome candidates as we do. :)

[Cabcere]

41. You got that right!

Edwards, Obama... :loveya: (Of course, I'm not shallow enough to vote for a candidate based on looks alone...but you know, it doesn't hurt that our candidates are pretty easy on the eyes!) ;)

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[zulchzulu]

46. Limbaugh is about as relevant as the last crap my puppy took last Tuesday night

The crap is more meaningful.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

52. I dunno...I'm convinced Limpballs' rant against Michael J. Fox...

backfired big time and helped McCaskill win a tight race in Missouri. In that regard, he's pretty relevant. Keep opening yer big, fat trap, Limpballs, especially a few weeks before November 4, 2008!

[TheWraith]

49. Maybe it's because they can't get away with saying what they really want to.

They can't use the words that they really, deep down want to use to describe Obama and Clinton (one particular word, especially, directed at the former) so they run to the last "acceptable" targets for their twisted hatred of everything that's not them: gays, muslims, and throw in a little abortion.

[DemDogs]

57. Aimed at Edwards, the one who can sink them

I disagree. I don't think that they are targeting Edwards because they can't target the others. They are targeting him because he is the most dangerous to them. He threatens them in their strongholds. Rudy vs. Johnny in Oklahoma? They are scared to death of him.

[ecstatic]

51. These attacks are meant to turn off women voters, I think

Take note: The right really seems to fear Edwards. The thing that I find laughable is how these ignorant memes end up actually hurting our candidates. That's how they get us--they come up with something so stupid / innocuous that we don't feel it's important enough to respond to, but for some reason these topics resonate with voters.

This latest series of attacks is geared not towards homophobic people, but towards the target Edwards voter: women. While there is absolutely nothing wrong with being gay, the issue does become more tricky if someone is in a heterosexual marriage with kids. The result could possibly be that soccer moms/women who previously viewed Edwards as this great attractive husband who married an "average looking" woman will now have a seed planted in their mind that Edwards just married "anyone" to cover up the fact that he is gay.

[madinmaryland]

53. This coming from a perverted, drug-addled gas-bag.

'nuff said.

[Geek_Girl]

55. I guess they think Pretty Boy = Gay in middle America?

I really don't understand the framing they are trying to set. The only thing I can think of is because Edwards is an attractive man, he must be gay. It really boggles the mind.


:crazy:

I just wonder if the goobers in this country will fall for it.

[KansDem]

58. You know, it's getting to the point where the neo-con, fascist scream machine

...is acting more and more like a group of overly-stimulated boys in a junior-high locker room.

Really...

I keep having to ask myself "Are these adults?" when I read something like this...

[HuffleClaw]

59. i guess its an attempt to 'normalize' coulters comments?

"oh, but LOTS of people JOKE about stuff!"

[Uncle Joe]

60. Actually I believe "the Breck Girl" was coined by Maureen Dowd n/t

[DesertRat]

61. I don't get it. Because he's attractive, he's a woman?

And because he has a full head of his own hair? :shrug:

[durtee librul]

62. First of all, if that's the WORST

they can say about JRE, then tough noogies and it just shows me they can't find anything with 'real meat' to attack him on.

As far as the name slinging goes, that's all his audience understands. The loudest at the table always gets the food - and if you've seen Rush lately, he obviously gets his fair share.

[DesertRat]

64. Apparently he was quoting this headline in the NY Sun

Could Edwards Become First Woman President?
By JOSH GERSTEIN
March 8, 2007

BERKELEY, Calif. — Toni Morrison famously dubbed President Clinton America's "first black president." With that barrier broken, the comments of a prominent feminist are provoking debate about who may lay a similar claim to the title of America's first woman president.

The candidate being touted as a torchbearer for women is not Senator Clinton, but one of her former colleagues, John Edwards. At a rally near the University of California, Berkeley campus this week, a veteran of the abortion-rights movement, Kate Michelman, asked and answered the question she gets most frequently about her decision to back the male former senator from North Carolina.

"Why John Edwards, given the historic nature of our extraordinary campaign for the presidency this year with Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama and all the others?" Ms. Michelman asked as she warmed up the crowd for Mr. Edwards. "I've gotten to know a lot of political leaders over the years that I've been an advocate for women's rights. I know the difference between those who advocate as a political position and those who understand the reality of women's lives."

Compared to Mrs. Clinton, Mr. Edwards is short an ‘X' chromosome, but listening to Ms. Michelman, that is easy to forget. "As a lawyer, as a senator, as a husband, as a father of two daughters, he understands the reality of women's lives. He understands the centrality of women's lives and experience to the health and well-being of society as a whole. … He understands that on an extremely personal level," she said.

http://www.nysun.com/article/50057

[Cha]

65. What a fucking green eyed monsterous

Homophobe.


limpdick is soooooooooo Jealous of John Edwards..anyone with any life experience can see that.

What if there were a Liberal radio person who got on the airwaves and tried to brainwash the minions with stupid ugly lies about wingnuts? Oh wait ..they wouldn't have to lie.

[mitchum]

68. I will celebrate when that piece of shit is a dead piece of shit