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Thickasabrick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 05:19 PM
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ABC News calls Edwards "Desperate"
The actual title of the article is

"The Radicalization of John Edwards, John Edwards is a desperate candidate"

March 9, 2007 — On Thursday, ailing Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards rejected an offer to engage in a nationally televised debate with front-runners Sens. Hillary Clinton (D-N.Y.) and Barack Obama (D-Ill.). Sponsors of the debate would include the Democratic Party of Nevada, the Democratic Party of Arizona, the Democratic Party of Colorado, the Democratic Party of Montana, the Democratic Party of New Mexico, and the Western Majority Project, a liberal political action committee. Why would Edwards, who is currently running 25 percentage points behind Clinton and 13 points behind Obama, turn down such a rare opportunity to directly confront his opponents? Why would the television candidate of all television candidates turn down a chance to look pretty on national television?

Edwards rejected the invitation because Fox News is co-sponsoring the debate.

Really. Seriously. No joke.

"There were a number of factors and Fox was one of those," explained the Edwards campaign. "We're already planning to participate in a jam-packed schedule of debates across this country. … We can't attend every single debate and forum." Text


http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=2938218

Ben Shapiro appears to be one huge asshole. He obviously thinks being on Fox is a good thing...not to mention the damn thing was called off yesterday.

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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 05:21 PM
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1. ABC is moving to the right real quick
They want to dethrone Fox News...
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 05:22 PM
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2. Is this the Fox event that Obama, too, was boycotting?
I'm not following the details of the early campaigns all that closely, but I know I read someplace that Obama, too, told Fox to shove it.

Good for all of them!
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 05:23 PM
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3. Jeez, there are millions of "radicals" against Fox.
Not that's it's even the same, but would the GOP get CBS News to do their primary debate. I don't think so...

The fact is the media elite don't like this because it calls out the ideological nature of "news reporting" in general. They want to be the uberfuhrers of information distribution, free from scrutiny.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 05:26 PM
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5. Really -- it's just like when Nora O'Donnell called Sheehan an extremist
when the polls were saying that 60% of Americans wanted out of Iraq.

They are ruthless, truthless hacks.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 06:17 PM
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22. If that last sentence up there isn't the voice of the Oracle of Delphi
then call me a cup of gravy and stick me out the window.

Bravo.

SOMEBODY around here has the wide-ranging command of politics AND poetry, and it happens to be you.

Nice damn job.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 06:37 PM
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24. Didn't that Oracle have a Cassandra batting average?
I can't even figure out who you are, Old Crusoe, and I know you.

:rofl:

"But it's all right, yes, it's all right."
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 06:55 PM
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28. Hi, sfexpat2000. I used to be a Bay Area resident but ain't no more.
Don't worry -- I hold the Delphi priestess very high. She was a pre-statistic gal.

Hope you're having a great weekend.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 05:24 PM
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4. Boycott the Nutwing media, John. You really can't lose that way.
We'll give you all the outlets you need.

:kick:
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 05:26 PM
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6. That "Town Hall" section of ABC that you got that from...

...looks like the bat-shit crazy section of that network's on-line website.

Seriously, I wouldn't give Mr. Shapiro and his cronies the satisfaction of reprinting that article and keeping it alive...

I don't think Senator Edwards deserves it.
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Inspired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 05:34 PM
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10. A right wing website
you are correct...just bury it. I wouldn't expect anything else from a contributor to townhall.com.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 05:58 PM
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18. Good catch larissa!
:hi:
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 05:26 PM
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7. Ben Shapiro once wrote an article titled "Enemy 'civilian' deaths okay by me." eom
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 05:28 PM
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8. The Media Heathers are just being bitchy again.
I want to hear actual news, not their opinion.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 05:30 PM
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9. ABC News is vying for a position next to Faux Snooze
That commentary was quite lame. I'm glad Faux Snooze is being pointed out as a political media arm of the GOP. Pure and simple. They should be boycotted.

Did Shapiro come out against Obama because of his policy of not allowing the Faux Snooze journ-o-vermin in any of his events? I doubt it.



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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 05:44 PM
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15. Yeah, and ABC fears they're next on our sh*t list. They sure deserve to be.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 05:37 PM
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11. HIT PIECE ALERT!!!
Edited on Sat Mar-10-07 05:38 PM by rocknation
It's dated today, March 10. The official cancellation was the day before, March 9. But the story states that the other candidates are still considering attending! This is just an excuse to attack Edwards. And they accuse us of "drive-by" media.


rocknation
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 05:39 PM
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12. ABC News produced Britt Hume. It sanctions repeated dismissals of
Democrats and has for a long time.

We'll see if ABC's ratings are enough to sustain it long enough to cover Edwards' nomination in Denver.

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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 06:43 PM
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26. ABC did not really produce Britt Hume
Hume got his start with Jack Anderson, of muckracking fame.

He then went on to ABC, & was under the tutelege of Peter Jennings.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 07:01 PM
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29. We could go back to Anderson, yes, but it was at ABC that he cut his
ideological teeth.

Jack Anderson is not to blame for the way Hume turned out.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 05:41 PM
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13. What's with all the GOP shit today
Don't post crap from right wing web sites. When are we going to learn not to do their lifting for them.
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 05:45 PM
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16. Exactly n/t
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 05:45 PM
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17. ABC is still considered a news website
They are quickly going down Faux News path, but...
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 06:07 PM
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19. Click - It's from Townhall
Right there, front and center, Townhall articles:

Robert D. Novak: Richardson Rising
Nathan Tabor: Don't Count Out Conservatives
Dick Morris and Eileen McGann: Hillary's Experience --Ask Bill (He Doesn't Remember It)
Wayne Winegarden: CSR and Global Warming Economics
Donald Lambro: Twists and turns on the road to the White House
Diana West: Burnt offerings on the altar of multiculturalism
Patrick Ruffini: The Information Hunter-Gatherers

Shouldn't take a wizard to figure out the purpose of the piece.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 06:08 PM
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20. Ooops, didn't notice it!
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 05:41 PM
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14. ABC comes in a close second behind Fox Noise.
Desperate aptly describes McCain, Ghouliani, and Gingrinch, who suddenly don't want to be judged on "family values." Desperate also aptly describes Roger Ailes who is whining about the dangers of candidates boycotting "journalists" (:rofl:) if they don't like the coverage they receive. Desperate also describes Fox Noise because the curtain is being pulled back further by the day to reveal to more and more people that they are nothing close to a news organization. Yet ABC uses the word describe Edwards, who basically called out Fox Noise as being a propaganda clearing house for Chimpco.

ABC is still dead to me. Fuck 'em.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 06:14 PM
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21. Zowie! Edwards is not my No. 1 choice, but for a supposedly
neutral news organiztion to publish this hit piece without a disclaimer that Townhall.com is a righty blog is inexcusable. This is what we're going to be up against for the next 20 months.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 07:29 PM
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30. DING DING DING! Wienerdoggie, you're our grand prize winner!
This is what we're going to be up against for the next 20 months.

And they can't figure out why we're "web-addicted."


rocknation
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 06:25 PM
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23. Why aren't we hearing or reading negatives on Repubs?
Edited on Sat Mar-10-07 06:26 PM by zanne
I mean, there are Republican candidates out there, too, right? This reminds me of the beginning of the 2006 Congressional races, when the media was telling us the Dem candidates were having alot of trouble. We'll see.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 06:40 PM
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25. Why is ABC publishing far right editorialists. This article originates from TownHall.com
They already did that a few weeks ago, publishing an editorial from another far right online publication, titled "John Kerry, the Ugly American".

When has ABC become the New Fox?
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 06:48 PM
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27. Edwards must be a threat
Yes, that blustery name calling by Shapiro is right-wing fear indeed.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 07:37 PM
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31. Romney's paying people to support him. That's not desperate?
Romney Gives Big Money To Key Right Wing Groups He Wants Support From
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2762799

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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 07:43 PM
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32. Eh, who cares?
I remember the MSM declared Clinton's career was over because at the 1988 convention he made an overly long speech.

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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 07:45 PM
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33. Here's their e-mail address
support@abcnews.go.com

I say we call them on it!

:headbang:
rocknation
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AshevilleGuy Donating Member (947 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 07:52 PM
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34. Going 'radical' is a sign of desperation?
Funny, I always thought a desperate candidate would go mainstream. Guess I just didn't know. :eyes:
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 09:29 AM
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35. Wow! Just like on DU!
Who needs corporate media when we've got special DUers who do a similar job?

Julie
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 09:55 AM
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37. What do you mean? I don't see many DUers with RW bias. n/t
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 10:41 AM
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38. There's a thread title here at DU
that is very, very similar to the labels applied here by ABC.

Some DUers employ reich-wing tactics when going after Dems they don't like. Some even do so with alarming regularity. Why it is tolerated here is a mystery to me.

Julie
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 10:51 AM
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40. Judging books by covers? My thread is no where near similar to this.
Edited on Sun Mar-11-07 10:54 AM by Kerry2008
Thanks for implying I'm spreading RW bullshit like ABC though :hi:

Next time I have concerns about a candidate, I'll just sit down and shut up. Wouldn't want DUers to throw a fit, and claim I'm RW because they can't address my concern.

This article that was posted was clearly anti-Edwards. John Edwards is my favorite candidate in the current field, and I absolutely love John and Elizabeth. I dare you to call me anti-Edwards. ;)

Go ahead, I need a laugh. Gawd, I'm glad DU doesn't represent the WHOLE Democratic party.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 03:30 PM
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42. The post went with it nicely
If I recall you went on about how Edwards latest efforts smack of desperation. How is that different?

Julie
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 09:54 AM
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36. This story seems to charge that Edwards is 'scared' of Obama and Clinton.
Nothing could be further from the truth. Especially when it comes to healthcare, Edwards will dominate. I really don't trust anything ABC says, but Edwards has the right to turn down any debate or forum offer he wants. Just like Obama did in Nevada. Some people bitched about that (for different reasons) but in the end it's his campaigns choice.
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enough already Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 10:45 AM
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39. The media reaction is predictable, and Edwards shouldn't be surprised
Did anyone think the media wouldn't trash Edwards in response to his decision? They could all be the next to be "black-balled" by candidates and they aren't going to kiss Edwards' ass for potentially starting a trend.
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 12:37 PM
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41. As much as I admire Charlie Gibson, I have never seen his news
show, because after the outrageous movie ABC ran just pre-election about Clinton and Albright and etc. (which I did not see, but in a rare W move, condemned sight unseen, because of general democratic consensus of its unfairness,) I will never watch anything on ABC again, and I mean anything, or anything produced by Disney.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 06:41 PM
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43. John Edwards is fucking Fantastic!@!
Love him! He's a healthy man!
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