Funny Thoughts From Freeperland....

[monmouth]

I decided to go over there to just browse around, some of it is really awful, but this one really blasts McCain. I guess you could put a fork in him about now....lol.

McCain has four problems:
1. He's nuts
2. He's stabbed too many people in the back
3. McCain-Fiengold
4. People are tired of the retreads

One of the problems McCain, Gore, Kerry, and Hillary have is that they're old, washed up retreads from previous campaigns. People are tired of their faces. They're tired of their positions. They're tired of baby-boomer Viet Nam era narcissists (Hillary and Kerry), and they want to hear something new from somebody new.

Rudy concerns me a lot on some social issues and of course the drag photos will be posted here six times a day for eight straight years if he gets elected and wins re-election. However, he's good on crime, and good on the WOT. Electorally, he throws a basketball onto the chess board of the current lineup of states in the electoral college. I'd love to see California, New York and New Jersey be in play for Republicans. If you see Hillary campaigning in New Jersey in October 2008, you're looking at a loser.

If Fred Thompson jumps in, I'm probably with him. I'm still considering Romney, but need to see if he's still viable in a few months. I'll think about the others if they begin to look viable. I won't consider McCain. Or any Rat, of course.

[AX10]

1. See how they rationalize Rudy's short comings.

If McCain makes a comeback, which can happen because it's just so early, watch them make excuses for him too. If Judas looks like a winner, FReepers would make excuses for him too.

[illinoisprogressive]

2. the republicans are not happy with their choices. But, they have no leader, really.

we are lucky. we have a choice lineup to choose from. Cream of the crop

[babylonsister]

3. Exactly. And Newt in his newtiness wasn't even mentioned! Telling... nt

[AX10]

5. "Newtiness", Do all Republic candidates have it?

[monmouth]

4. But...., Fred Thompson???? Egads....n/t

[mrreowwr_kittty]

10. No shit!

I mean, I like him on Law and Order and everything and I know he "played" a Senator for a while but come on!

[progdonkey]

6. don't New Yorkers and Jerseyans(?) hate Giuliani?

Since it was said by a Freeper, I'm assuming it's full of shit, but the guy mentions he'd "love to see California, NY, and NJ be in play for the Republicans," but don't New Yorkers hate Giuliani?

Perhaps he's still popular in the Republican areas of those states, which could possibly overwhelm the urban areas, but isn't this a case where the people in the candidate's home state (and near neighbor) have actually seen the guy's performance up close and know just how awful he is? They already know all the scandals that will come to light in the primaries and (if he survives that) the general election. Kind of like Molly Ivins' comment about Bush that "Hell, we tried to warn you that he was just going to do to the entire country what he'd done to Texas!" Of course, Bush carried Texas regardless, but New York is hardly as friendly to Republicans as Texas is, and Giuliani doesn't have as much core Republican support as Bush had.

[AX10]

7. New York will go Dem as will Cali.

New Jersey could be a problem though.

[skipos]

9. Rudy beat HRC in recent polls in PA and NJ.

I hope they do not nominate Dame Rudy, though it shows how desperate the GOP is if the nominate a pro-choice, pro-gay, anti-gun candidate.

[monmouth]

12. I'll jump in here as an old Jersey gal. I don't think Rudy has made

his "bones" yet, but let's just say if he went to Bloomfield tomorrow, Tony Soprano and Bernie Kerick would be waiting for him with open arms.....my impression....sigh.

[TwilightGardener]

8. They are obsessed with two things:

George Bush's War of Terror (thanks Borat!) and loyalty. Absolutely nothing else matters to these psychos. I don't really ever see where McCain stabbed anybody in the back, except he supported CFR--but so does Fred Thompson, and Freepers are creaming their pants over him as some sort of savior. But just that perception of disloyalty is enough to sink McCain, despite a fairly conservative voting record and his courage and honor as a vet/POW. They are "throw out the baby with the bathwater" types who tolerate absolutely no free thought or dissent, and are unable to see shades of gray in people. In short, they're daddy-craving simpletons.

[HappyWeasel]

11. hopefully this will be enough to send them home empty handed in November.

I mean, they are either calling their candidates back stabbers and the ones they support are just Bush reloaded. Huckabee is Bush II, Brownback is Super Bush and Thompson seems like another Bush clone as well.


If Guiliani runs...he may be able to put New York and Cali into play, but he may have trouble carrying Arkansas and Tennessee.. but will not win Virginia or Florida....though he will SWEEP the west. Guliani is the best candidate for the west. McCain would be, but he is well...Mc Cain.

Actually because there are so many secular conservatives in FLA, Guliani might win as high as 55-57% in Florida.

[monmouth]

13. Lots of New Yawkers down here who greatly dislike him..n/t

[HappyWeasel]

14. Yeah...maybe... What about Deleware and New Jersey

So, maybe it will be close with Guliani....

Maybe the new swing states will be Cali, New Jersey, Missouri,Arkansas and Deleware with Iowa and Ohio coming firmly to us by like 4 or 6 points. Though Colorado, Nevada and New Mexico may vote like Arizona (where Kerry got only 44 percent)...and I don't see Pennsylvania going to Guiliani if Ohio doesn't...and with a pro-choice nominee, I don't think W.Va will be vote for Guiliani, either.

[TwilightGardener]

15. Actually, the fact that Newtie is publicly confessing his zipper sins

and they are calling in the "B" team with Thompson is a sign to me that they are losing confidence in Roody. But rather than Bush, they worship the Gipper, and are forever searching for his clone. In fact, if they weren't so dead set against embryo research and cloning, I bet they'd dig up a little Ronnie DNA and start working it in a test tube--Reagan 2.0 would be ready in 35 years.

[HappyWeasel]

16. Yeah.

lol...maybe they will do it anyway....they are quite the hypocrites.

Then again,all their candidates are...all hopeless moderates or flip floppers in the first tier and look exactly like Bush in the second. Hagel seems to try to avoid both pit falls but ends up falling in both at this point.

and judging from history, hopeless moderates is what they will probably get unless there is HUGE fracturing in the GOP that leads to such fiascos as 1964,1976,1992 and 1996. (what's sad about this is that these are the only times we will have won in the last 50 years if the neoclowns pull this off)...that makes us 4-8.... our worst record....ever since reconstruction...and if we send this bozo back to the white house in 2012, this will be the worst time for our party ever! If we can't get a guy in by 2012,we might as well go the way of the Whigs..

1868,1872,1876,1880,1888,1896,1900,1904,1908

1884,1892,1912

vs.

1964,1976,1992,1996

1968,1972,1980,1984,1988,2000,2004,2008,2012

Case in point: FAILURE IS NOT AN OPTION

[TwilightGardener]

17. Well, now that's grim. We need to pick a winnah!

[HappyWeasel]

18. yeah..

i wish we could return to

1912,1916,1932,1936,1940,1944,1948,1960

vs

1920,1924,1928,1952,1956