The Split Among Dems

[cleveramerican]

the dems fall into two camps.
The GET OUT NOW! faction has its points.
So does The BUILD A COALITION FOR WITHDRAWAL faction.
Any Space for compromise between these two looks unlikely
One view will win and the other will loose
So who's right? and more importantly what is best for our nation?

[zanne]

1. We're not as "split" as the media tells us.

Otherwise, we wouldn't have gained so many House seats and taken over the Senate in November. We all want to get out of Iraq and I believe we will.

[cleveramerican]

2. I'm talking about SINCE then

I agree getting out of Iraq is a common mission, but the specifics of what that entails is a political minefield on which there is far too little agreement.

[Stinky The Clown]

3. Rather than asking who's right, why not ask what they have in common?

Common ground is the most fertile of soils for growing a crop of accomplishments.

[cleveramerican]

5. I ask because

I know its doesn't really matter who's right, it only matters which will prevail.

[Stinky The Clown]

7. You're right .... it doesn't matter. But in your OP you clearly asked

who was right.

[cleveramerican]

8. lets pretend we are all in step

I can see that denial is alive and well, pretending there is agreement doesn't make it so

[Stinky The Clown]

10. I'm not pretending we're in step .......

.... and you still haven't answered my question.

[cleveramerican]

11. besides d next to their name?

otherwise not much


when ever have you seen Hillary near John Murtha ( the most obvious members of each faction)

[Larry Allen]

4. With this appropriations bill pending we work on out now

Then we can work on primary candidates. These are activities, not factions. We should always be building coalitions. I would like to a see a coalition aimed simply and specifically at eliminating for profit corporations from the political process. It would be transformative and would benefit the peace movement and every other progressive cause.

[marlakay]

6. Even the get out now crowd

knows you can't all just board the plane TODAY and thats it folks!! I am on that side of the fence but common sense says it will take at least a month or two to sort things out. I think the real problem is no one wants to start the process and when they do, they don't agree on how long it will take. Especially when you have the idiot president adding more troops when we ALL both right and left know we need to pull out...

For some stupid reason the members of congress and senate that do want to start pulling out right away, seem to get drowned by the others afraid for how it will look...god everything in this society now is all based on how it looks.

Who gives a damn how it looks? How it looks is like we are a country being run by obvious liars and the people don't care enough to be out in the streets demanding for them to be ousted.

[sutz12]

9. There are two kinds of people in the world...

Those who divide people into two groups
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and those who don't.

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