Should we give a pass to Presidential Candidate who have "Girl Toy" Second and Third Wives?

[KoKo]

Or should we applaud these fellows for being the new Donald Trumps and Entertainment Values Americans who can "use it up, toss it out and make it better."

Which Candidates are the MOST VULNERABLE for "GIRL TOY" Problems? I see Fred Thompson and Newtie as #One's.

But maybe some DU'ers think this is a sign of POWER or CHOICE. If it's "CHOICE" should we trash their young wives. Doesn't that somehow make us sound like "Racist Hypocrits" to diss Politicians who had tragic marriages but managed to find happiness with SOMEONE and it shouldn't MATTER the AGE or LOOKS of the Wife: :shrug:

[hobbit709]

1. Depends on how hypocritical

they are about "Family Values"

[Horse with no Name]

2. It depends if they left their dying wives for trophies

THAT does matter.
However, in defense, power is a hefty aphrodisiac (as is money).
I think trading golddigging for arm candy is fair.:shrug:

[MadMaddie]

3. It's not trashing their young wives....it's trashing the candidate and how

and when the candidate acquired the new young wife.

1. The young wives were mistresses while these men were married. (So they shouldn't be put on a pedastal.)

2. The grown ass men left their wives at questionable times, Newt-while his wife was in the hospital fighting cancer. 3 Marriages etc.
Newt who destroyed a President over an affair while he was also having an affair.

3. Guilliani...who knows..

No..it's time that the Democratic party stop playing nice and call a spade a spade. These men nor do their previous mistresses now their wives deserve sympathy.

[Not Me]

6. Play their game...

Jesus' own words from Mark 10:8-12

"And the two shall become one flesh, so that they are no longer two, but one flesh.

What therefore God has united (joined together), let not man separate or divide.

And indoors the disciples questioned Him again about this subject.

And He said to them, Whoever dismisses (repudiates and divorces) his wife and marries another commits adultery against her;

And if a woman dismisses (repudiates and divorces) her husband and marries another, she commits adultery."

[babylonsister]

4. Definitely add Giuliani. nt

[Manifestor_of_Light]

11. Giuliani was getting a divorce from Donna Hanover

And wanted the wife, Donna, and the girlfriend, Judith, to both live in Gracie Mansion.
The judge told him he couldn't do that.
He got a divorce and married Judith the girlfriend (not sure if she's wife #2 or 3).

[JI7]

18. Judith is # 3, Giuliani's first wife was his cousin who he cheated on with Donna

[JI7]

16. Giuliani married someone his age and less attractive than Donna

so not really what one would consider a trophy wife.

[Raven]

5. Marriages that don't work out I can understand...

affairs while you are married mean that you are a liar, simple as that, you can't do that without lying; serial affairs mean that you have no brakes and probably something else going on with your self esteem, ego or someting. No one who courts one person while married to another should be trusted with this country. Jesus, that rules out a lot of people I know!

[LiberalFighter]

13. Serial affairs and marriages mean that the individual...

will not take responsibility for their actions.

If they can't take responsibility for their actions then how can we trust them to make responsible decisions for our country?

[Eurobabe]

19. I have to agree with you on this

Either spouse. If someone cheats on their spouse, they are not above lying to anyone else.

[TwilightGardener]

7. No--no one gets a pass--fair game, baby!

[demnan]

8. I don't give a flying fuck at a rolling donut

my preferred candidate would be a radical feminist or gay person against the war and for impeachment. Or a grey suited conservative person against the war and for impeachment. Or a nun or Mormon against the war and for impeachment. Or a crazy crack addict against the war and for impeachment. Or a three legged dog or horny cat against the war and for impeachment...

I'll settle for Edwards at this point.

[pampango]

20. Well, said. But you realize that you are talking about issues

not candidates' personal lives don't you? ;)

Some prefer that our campaign strategies come from what we can learn on Entertainment Tonight. :(

[lakeguy]

9. if they cheated, no pass...

if they didn't then judging them is no better than judging based on color, sex, or whatever.

[Chipper Chat]

10. Depends on which political party they are affilliated with.

If you are REPUBLICAN you are "acknowledged to have made mistakes which are forgivable and are now in the past". Repentence is what counts. Now...........
..if you are a DEMOCRAT with a divorcy past or questionable sexually you are a weasel and a scumbag for life.

[AlCzervik]

12. pointing out facts, and if those facts don't apint a pretty picture, oh well.

[Alcibiades]

14. They are scum

The number one threat to marriage in this country is heterosexual divorce, which is often caused by philandering men looking to trade up for a newer model.

People, this is a family values issue! I remember how many repub women were critical of Hillary when she stayed with Bill, and I thought "How hypocritical! You claim to be pro family, yet this woman wants to give her man, her only husband, the father of her child, a second (or 13th, or whatever) chance, and you're all like "Kick him to the curb!" when it's not anyone's business but theirs."

As a father who is still married to my first wife, these guys make me sick. Their wives have given up so much, their youth, their figures, and often their careers, but they treat them as if they were like a golf club: use it til it's worn out, drop it off at goodwill, then go to the pro shop and pick up a new one. Anyone who treats the mother of his children like that, well, how will they treat the poor?

[Apollo11]

15. For me - the key issue is children

If a man cheats on his wife while she is looking after his young children, he is a rat.

But if a couple have no kids, and one or both parties is no longer happy in the relationship, then I don't think we should judge someone who "falls in love" with someone else and finds happiness (however short-lived) outside their marriage.

Equally, if the kids have grown up and are leaving home, you can't force the parents to stay together.

What you all seem to be saying is that people should stick with their first marriage, no matter what.

I certainly respect people who get it right first time around. But if a marriage has hit the rocks for whatever reason, you cant just turn back the clock and put everything back the way it was at the beginning.

But I agree that the "ideal" is to get it right first time around, and then stay faithful to your spouse. Al and Tipper Gore are one of the best examples I can think of ...

[Alcibiades]

23. All those who talk the talk should walk the walk

It's no big whup to me if the Clintons get divorced. My parents got divorced, and I have to say, I'm better off because of it.

What gets me is that these people--i.e. Republican politicians, and sometimes ministers--have the balls to oppose gay marriage on the grounds that it weakens heterosexual marriage, when a far bigger threat to marriage is heterosexual infidelity. These guys are rich men, and they do what rich men do. They have a first wife, who bears their kids and who take care of their husbands while they are young and (perhaps) struggling, and the minute the stretch marks appear, the minute things sag a little, they dump wife #1 for a hot young thing.

In other words, they leave a woman with whom they have shared their lives, and had kids--for me, probably the most amazing experience you can share with another human being--for the most superficial of reasons. She gained a couple of pounds, got a wrinkle, etc. It's the hypocrisy, not the divorces per se. If it were simply a question of love, sometimes these dudes would marry someone their own age when they remarry. Am I wrong, or did not the dudes in question all drop the mothers of their children for a young hootchie momma, or not? That's what I'm talking about--talking like they are Cotton Mather on the one hand while living like they are Hugh Hefner.

If somebody's a player, a Clinton, that's one thing. We all know about him, all knew about him before his first election. What we're dealing with are men who leave their wives for the most superficial of reasons, all the while praising marriage and motherhood, when what they really mean is that motherhood is good so long as there's no weight gain or stretch marks, that marriage is good so long as there's no young hotties willing to lube up your crankshaft.

Divorces are choices. It's not a force of nature that caused these men to leave their wives for younger women, it was their unwillingness to be real men, to grow up, and not to be slaves to their lusts. And when somebody does that while pretending to be moral, while denying rights to others on the basis of the supposed sanctity of marriage, they are scum.

[JI7]

17. in Newt's case he cheated and said his 2nd wife was not hot enough to be first lady

he left his first wife while she was going through cancer treatment and refused to pay child support.

in Newt's case it's not just about marriage not working and finding someone else. and it's not even just about cheating. but there is a viciousness to it towards his ex wives.

[cleveramerican]

21. The tone matters

there are some that seem so much worse than others.
Its a case by case question for this voter

[Rockholm]

22. REPEAT AFTER ME......

Clinton, Obama, Edwards, Gore.......None of them have been divorced. Still on their first marriage!

Stupid Hora O'Donnell on the Today Show the the panel (Dee Dee Meyers and Bay Buchanan) NEVER mentioned the fact that none of the Democrats have been oft married. Bay did get some dig in about Bill and "when the next round of bimbos coming out" will hurt Hillary.

Nice, NBC.........real nice.

[Stinky The Clown]

24. The operative word ought to be "Totality"

As in: we should judge our candidates by the totality of their lives. Every experience, every action, makes us who we are and it is all fair game for consideration.