Dodd vs Biden

[Bucky]

Poll question: Dodd vs Biden

Who drops out first?

[UrbScotty]

1. Hopefully Joe Foot-In-Mouth Biden. (nt)

[MADem]

2. I want Biden to stay in through a few debates. Dodd too.

It's not always about the winner. Biden has some good perspectives on international and national security issues.

He'll add to the discussion, even though he hasn't much of a shot.

I think he's running for Secretary of State, myself.

[AshevilleGuy]

3. I like Joe Biden. His antiwar speech this week was dead-on.

Why he is not a good presidential candidate I don't know, unless it's that he speaks before he thinks too often.

But could he beat Rudy next year?? I wonder.

[MADem]

6. It's his background...see his first run decades ago. And he has a bit of

diarrhea of the mouth.

But he would ADD immeasurably to the debates. He will make the winner, whoever that may be, stronger by honing the issues down to the sharpest points. He knows his foreign policy.

[Rydz777]

10. Agreed

Biden doesn't know when to shut up, but when you sift through all the verbiage, he usually makes sound points.

[MADem]

13. I hope you agree with me, though,--that I still want to hear from him

I doubt I will vote for him (I remain undecided) but I think his VIEWS matter. I think he can help shape policy.

I like his foreign policy perspective. I just wish he'd "get to it" in fewer words, overall!!!!!!!!

[AshevilleGuy]

11. I remember. It was 1988.

But the media jackals got him on a technicality, copying someone else's speech, call it plagarism. Like the others never do that!

He has always seemed presidential to me, despite the logorrhea.

[MADem]

14. It was pretty ugly, though. It was Neil Kinnock (Labour-UK) and it was WORD FOR WORD

and even sigh for sigh, expression for expression, hand wave for hand wave.

It was painful to see. IMO.

That said, he has a good mind....notwithstanding the brain surgery, which really IS a kiss of death!

[AshevilleGuy]

17. Brain surgery? That sounds vaguely familiar.

It is not also true, that he lost his wife and children to some awful accident many years ago?

[MADem]

19. Horrible car accident, it killed his wife and daughter, who was an infant.

He has two sons, they were in the car, too and survived (can you imagine the trauma?). The brain surgery was due to aneurysms. It's a miracle he lived, really. And then, there's the hair plugs (he used to be a young, bald man). Oh, and he was one of the youngest, if not the youngest, guy elected to the Senate. It's a life like a soap opera, really. It probably has a great deal to do with his sunny disposition, as well--he probably figures he shouldn't even be here, and every day is a gift.

He remarried, but much later; very nice gal, they've been together going on 30 years. Together they had a kid, and by now grandkids. He commuted (still does) from DC to DE every day on the train rather than let someone else raise the kids. You can read about that and see a pic of his second wife here http://www.joebiden.com/getinformed/about though the tragedy with the first wife is not mentioned. He's a Roman Catholic. A fascinating fellow, really, and not stupid. If every President had a brain that worked as well as his, aneurysms notwithstanding, we wouldn't be in the mess we're in now.

[UrbScotty]

5. Biden is smart when it comes to foreign policy.

I'll give him that.

I agree that he's 'running,' so to speak, for Secretary of State (though I'd like to see Richardson get that post, if not VP).

[MADem]

7. I'd like to see Richardson on the ticket, too. We'll see--there's lotsa

Special Envoy jobs out there, too!

[Alexander]

4. Biden, I hope.

He's too much of a weathervane. I like some of Dodd's ideas on foreign policy and Cuba and hope he has an influence on the nominee, assuming he doesn't get the nom.

[PresidentObama]

8. I wish Dodd had a better campaign.

His voice is important in this race, but I just wish he were a more serious candidate and acted like one. But I don't know. I think Biden will drop out first, probably!!

[NewYorkerfromMass]

9. They're 2 of the better candidates

if you can get beyond the media hyped ones.
"What a mean thing to say!"

[Infinite Hope]

12. Dodd.

He has less national credibility. I'm not saying he deserves less, but he has less. Biden is seen as more electable nationally and as more of a statesman. That being said, neither will be in it very long. If both are in it after Iowa, I'd be shocked. My guess is Dodd will be out by next fall. Biden, if he isn't out before the primary/caucus season, will be out after Iowa.

[TSIAS]

15. I like both

It's speculated that Dodd will do well in fundraising, considering he's the chairman of the Senate Banking Committee. Biden would be good in another year, but it's hard to see where he'll get a base of fundraising this time.

Biden has no chance in a presidential election. He doesn't mind his words, and is quite frankly too honest at times.

[liberalpragmatist]

16. Biden's foot-in-mouth disease makes Kerry look like a master wordsmith!

Biden's got no hope as a presidential nominee.

Dodd would actually be quite good. But I can't see him going anywhere. Although I think he could be a possible running mate for John Edwards (who wouldn't really need another Southerner and could use an elder statesman, more experienced in foreign affairs, to back him up).

[Mass]

18. None = That they are not media-approved candidates does not mean that they

do not have the right to run.

We are at a stage when the media corporations decide who is president. And we are following them like sheep!

[MADem]

20. The question is simply which one drops out first--they can't both be President

even if by some tremendous miracle one wins the nomination.

No one is saying they don't have the "right" to run. But facts being what they are, those two are at the back of the pack--one, at the least, is likely to go after a few primary results come in.

[Bucky]

21. Oops, I seem not to have voted in my own poll.

We'll fix that soon enough. But it's still a mean thing to say.

[Czolgosz]

22. Biden is a jackass; Dodd is just boring but a very good Senator. Plus Dodd has raised enough cash

that he's in the race through the first debates. Don't count on Biden to stick around much longer; he just waiting for a good opportunity to get out and endorse Hillary.