Bush ‘Pugnacious’ As GOP Strategists, White House Allies Call For Gonzales Resignation

[babylonsister]

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/16/pugnacious-bush-gonzales/

Bush ‘Pugnacious’ As GOP Strategists, White House Allies Call For Gonzales Resignation

President Bush is the main force holding up the resignation of Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, GOP sources say tonight. CBS News reports:

Republicans close to the White House tell CBS News chief White House correspondent Jim Axelrod that President Bush is in “his usual posture: pugnacious, that no one is going to tell him who to fire.” But sources also said Gonzales’ firing is just a matter of time.

The White House is bracing for a weekend of criticism and more calls for Gonzales to go. One source tells CBS News he’s never seen the administration in such deep denial, and Republicans are growing increasingly restless for the president to take action.

Also tonight, CNN’s Suzanne Malveaux reported: “Wolf, I have to tell you, I’ve spoken to a lot of people who are friends of those here at the White House and GOP strategists. They want Gonzales gone. They’re putting a lot of pressure on this president. One of them said, look, Gonzales has a constituency of one, and that is the president. But tonight, Wolf, White House officials who I’ve spoken to say that that is exactly the person who’s saving his job, that the president does not intend to let him go.”

Watch it at link~

[Jack Rabbit]

1. Il duce ha sempre ragione.

The leader is always right.

I think Bush takes that more seriously than Mussolini did.

Bush cannot admit to ever being wrong.

[aquart]

35. Mussolini ended up upside down.

I hope George dreams of that. Every night.

[TankLV]

72. If he doesn't I certainly hope and pray for that future for him...

[jazzjunkysue]

76. I'm pretty sure the chimp thinks Mussolini is a dessert topping.

"Sure is gud moo-sow-leenee y'all got heere."

[Jawja]

40. In his world, Bush is not

wrong because Alberto is HIS MAN, whose function is not to serve the American People, but to serve HIM.

I believe we are now coming to the long awaited showdown between the Bush criminals and the Republicans in the Senate, who with the help of Democrats, have aided and abetted the racketeering called the Bush "government."

At some point, the GOP - if it wants to survive - will have to bring down this enterprise. But it's not going to be easy, because you "dance with the one who brung you" and Bush was their man; so now they get to experience first hand just what a bullheaded thug he is.

[corkhead]

57. The Chimperor is as stubborn as he is stupid

Setting the gold standard benchmark for both

[tblue]

64. Yes of course, but he's protecting his own arse with this (non)move n/t

[mediaman007]

2. Don't think that Gonzales came up with this stuff on his own...

he's doing the Bush*/NeoCon bidding. Of course Bush* has a hard time firing him. He's done everything he was told too.

[Warren Stupidity]

3. It is time for a smackdown.

Bush is a twit. Somebody needs to give him a good smacking.

[NewJeffCT]

4. I hope Gonzo twists in the wind for a few more months

maybe until some time in 2008...

[tavalon]

48. Great idea!

But alas, I don't think Quaint Gonzales is going to last the weekend. Wednesday at the latest.

[LiberalFighter]

56. That would be the perfect scenario... keep the pot stirred

If Gonzo does go Congress still needs to keep investigating.

[jazzjunkysue]

78. Agreed. Keep him turning on the spit. It's so much fun to watch.

Stand by your man, George!

[saltpoint]

5. When 6-year olds throw a fit, it's in keeping with their being 6-year olds.

We expect 6-year olds to behave like 6-year olds.

We're more surprised when presidents act like 6-year olds, though, and this one has a long record of it.

[Raksha]

10. That's funny - I was thinking "two-year-old" myself.

"I'm not gonna do it and nobody's gonna make me do it!" WAAAAAH!!!! I've had six years to get used to that kind of infantile minset in the highest office in the land, but I'm STILL not used to it. Do they make high chairs in his size?

[saltpoint]

12. High chairs! LOL!

I think you're right. Let me adjust my post to make it a 2-year old.

[Raksha]

16. Glad you liked it - the "high chair" bit was a last-minute afterthought.

But as soon as I read the OP, I pictured a two-year-old throwing a tantrum. I lived through that stuff twice, but with MOST kids that stage doesn't last long (fortunately). In Junior's case, though, it appears to have lasted his entire life.

[Auntie Bush]

62. What a great cartoon that would make. I wish I could draw! I can

just see ugly baby bush* sitting in a highchair flinging food with one hand, pounding the table with a spoon with the other and screaming ,"No, no,no!" What an apropos picture!

[SlowDownFast]

29. Here go.

Junior pics:








}(

[maseman]

39. I'm gonna hold my breath until I get my way darnit!

uuuhhhhhhhhh..................

[SusanaMontana41]

51. hahahahahha

:rofl:

[PADemD]

59. ROFL

[Tansy_Gold]

31. Two year olds. . . . . I'm sure some of you have already seen

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FzgvXdQ9vE&NR

Remind you of anyone?

[ClintonTyree]

36. Oh, how I wish....

GHWB had used one the night of Junior's conception. Amazing, how one small act like that can effect the entire world. The butterfly flapping it's wings thing and all...... oh, that Babs would have had "a headache" that night. And the world suffers because of it. :cry:

[TankLV]

73. Unless she ALWAYS kept her legs shut, it wouldn't have mattered...

After all, she shit out a whole batch of criminals...

[Bitwit1234]

6. Added to rove

what does gonzales have on bush. bush is protecting these two with too much gusto. They have got to have a hold on him for something.

[xxqqqzme]

8. they know where all the bodies are buried

hell, they helped him bury them.

[starroute]

26. True...they both go back to the Texas days, don't they?

So that may be more than a joke. (Remember Funeralgate?)

[aquart]

34. I wasn't thinking joke.

Real graves. No doubt in my mind.

[jazzjunkysue]

77. Gone-zalez knows where all the bodies are buried. He's been following

the elephant with a shovel for so long, he could take down the chimp in an hour. And he's got all the evidence he'll ever need on the chimp.

If the GOP is putting all this pressure on the chimp, they know all too well that Alberto can hang them all. So, what they're really asking for here, just like the dems, is for the chimp himself to resign or face impeachment.

They all know that Harriet Myers was his nose-wiper, and he's down to just Cheney, Rove and Alberto, now.

If the GOP is really pushing, then they're pulling the last leg out from under this chair and telling George that he'll walk the plank for them.

But the interesting thing is, I'm sure that George was originally supposed to be a puppet of the RNC. He was the only one who thought he was president. Everyone else thought Cheney was. So, ultimately, it really comes down to the RNC choosing to hide behind George or Dick.

At this point, it kinda looks like they've decided: We choose Dick. Bye, George.

But Gonzalez can take them all down, so, I really can't imagine how this will all play out.

We'll see if any new evidence is coughed up today and what is demanded tomorrow.

[Bitwit1234]

7. PS

If he has dug in his heels over this. Wouldn't you just LOVE TO SEE how he reacts if we could only impeach and remove him and cheney from office. Damn damn would I love it.

[pinto]

9. Mr. Bush is painting himself into a corner on this one, methinks.

[Cha]

11. Yeh, like having bush in

your corner is anything other than another "cornered rat"!

[SaveOurDemocracy]

13. Same arrogant obstinacy we saw with Rumsfeld

I guess he doesn't want to be the only rat left on the sinking ship.

[JohnnyLib2]

14. Bring on this kind of story--

it puts more pressure on the GOP legislators who are still trying to support ol' Shrub.

[Jawja]

42. And the day is fast

approaching where they will not be able to do it. When the Republicans in the Senate turn, this nightmare will be coming to an end; otherwise, the GOP will eventually go down with the ship.

[no_hypocrisy]

15. Well, after all, he IS the Decider . . . .

(I give it until after the week-end before Gonzales resigns.)

[whistle]

17. Gonzales will be gone by Monday

[sendero]

18. what a load of bollocks..

.... he's going to fire Gonzo after "his advisers told him he had no choice".

This crap, if it is actually happening, is all a loyalty act.

He'll be gone. I'd bet on it.

[BearSquirrel2]

61. Haven't you heard ...

The purpose of all the administration officials is to pleasure the president. That's what everybody says "I serve at the pleasure of the President." Deep down somehow they all think that they MUST PLEASURE GW Bush even if they want to resign like Rumsfeld claims he did.

Seriously, they all sound like a bunch of whores with Bush being their Sugar Daddy.


No doubt the Republicans in the Senate and House are not very "PLEASURED" by Gonzalez. They lost their majority's in part because of Duke Cunningham and the mess of firing Duke Cunningham's prosecutor stinks to high heaven. Don't get me wrong, I don't think the Republicans could care less about propriety or the law. But they do care about their appearences and no doubt they do not want to go through the hearings that will ensue when sending Gonzalez into exile will make them go away.

Their is a mountain of holes in the Bush's frock. Instead of tearing at the wholes, the Democrats seem like they want to pull on the loose threads under the guise that they were only trying to tidy things up, then when the whole thing comes unravelled they can plea a certain amount of innocence. They kept pulling at the loose threads and more kept coming out.

Lets hope the whole thing does become unravelled. And lets also hope that the Pelosi doesn't undermine the whole thing by becoming Bush's war eater. That's HIS mess and if Democrats mess around with it too much he'll just pawn it off on them.

[agincourt]

67. Exactly,

The Iraq fiasco is 100% Bush and the RWs fault, and the blame should not be shunted over to the new congress.

[BearSquirrel2]

69. Impeachment the only option ...

This is why I believe impeachment (of Bush and Cheney) is the only option to end the Iraq war in a speedy way. The second Congress passes legislation tying the President's hands, the Repukes will blame the loss on them. The Democrats will appear to be a party "starving the troops in the field". That is not a record to run an election on. Like it or not GW Bush is the president until his term expires or he is removed from office.

I hope that Pelosi is just posturing to appease the base (including many of the posters here). Certainly they can insert some real serious poison pills in the Senate to make sure that Republicans filibuster the bill. Of course, the President would look like a fool for approving a bill that would undermine his own authority.

When spending bills come along the Democrats can insert their benchmarks (as well as tax increases on the wealthy), but this will be a perilous effort in brinkmanship. I would prefer sticking to tying war funding to putting the top bracket back at the level it was during the highest period of economic growth in the history of the US (Clinton Administration, 42%).

An additional provision that Democrats can push I call the "Military Families Relief Act". It would state that the president may only deploy a soldier his 3rd time if he conscripts to soldiers to replace him. No deferments. This would FORCE the president to do conscriptions on pretty much ANYONE'S children in order to continue his war.

Some would be concerned that the presence only a limited number that would not enable him to expand his stupid war to Iran. However, he would only be required to draft EXACTLY twice as many soldiers as he over-deploys. This would be difficult for Republicans to oppose as it directly as it would provide DESPERATELY needed relief to the few that are bearing the burden of this war. It would shine a bold spotlight on those who say they support the war, but are unwilling to sacrifice the civilian life to prosecute it. It would force GW Bush to be the onpopular one who makes the CHOICE to conscript soldiers by overdeploying the existing ones in the field. It's a BIG catch-22 for GW Bush.

[agincourt]

71. Sounds like good ideas,

Far, Far too much of the blame for the Viet Nam fiasco was placed on Democrats, LBJ and the left. If anyone FUBARed the situation it was the radical RW who wanted a war with communism somewhere, anywhere and Richard Nixon. History was fabricated and the 1975 Democratic congress took the fall for the overunning of Saigon. That myth never should have stood.

[glitch]

19. Stand by your man Georgie boy! nt

:rofl: :evilgrin:

[bridgit]

20. pugnacious; hm, a .25ct word for: stubborn, intransigent, usurper of the rule...

of american law & jurisprudence = unacceptable in a national leader

[SpiralHawk]

38. He sure wasn't pugnacious when he was in National Guard

Bush deserted his unit so he could go sniff cocaine.

A lousy example for today's military to have him pretending to be
Commander in Chief.

He just likes to pretend to be tough. He is a cheerleader. That's it.
Get over IT your adoring republicons. You are in love with an image,
not a reality.

Every soldier knows he is Commander AWOL.

And lacking in honor.

[exlrrp]

55. Bush has never been in an actual fight in his life

Unless you count the time on a high school basketball team he slammed the ball into an opponents face.
Bush's "tough guy" stance is as manufactured as Hannity's or O'Reilly's. There';s nothing there at all. And his service record, when unscrambled, is one of disgrace.

"...Bush deserted his unit so he could go sniff cocaine..."
Well, actually, he left because he HAD done cocaine and was afraid the upcoming mandatory physical would reveal that--it was the first year they started testing for drugs. He'd taken the previous two years physicals all right.
So he didn't take the physical when it was required and instead of convening a Court and investigating why, as was his commander's duty, his commanders falsely kept him listed as a pilot--and PAID as a pilot---untill they could get him an "honorable discharge." To do this they committed many crimes, like falsifcation of documents, fraud, dereliction of duty and other serious, career ending crimes. george Bush signed checks for 44 days of pilots work allegedly done AFTER he had been suspended from flying--when hte was on the rolls of NO unit at all.. He continued to get paid as a pilot--for BEING a pilot-- for 14 months after he had beeen suspended from flying.(Aug 1 1972) And nobody ever asked: HEY! How did THAT work? Nobody but me. When Bush signed those checks for work he DIDN't do--COULDN'T have done because he was suspended from doing it and additionally was not on the rolls of ANY unit, he committed embezzlement of federal funds. And he KNEW he wasn't doing the work he was getting paid for. Some of this embezzled money may very well have gone to tootski--it matches his bio's.

Its a lot, LOT more than just simple AWOL--Bush got PAID for many of those AWOL days--PROVABLY!--because his commanders fraudulently kept him listed and paid as a pilot. Thats FRAUD! Thats EMBEZZLEMENT!! And thats why they scrambled up Bush's military papers when they released them. Its a lot more than just AWOL and its serious as a heart attack for Bush and his commanders if if the truth becomes known. Thats why there was no official investigation of the CBS Papers: because they would have lad to look at BUSH'S papers. CBS had an unofficial dog and pony show "investigating" the authenticity of papers with the letterhead of a federal unit, purporting to be official TXANG documents with the signature of a federal TXANG militarry commander (see: http://news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/gwbush/bushang2.html ) --and the TXANG, nor the entire federal government ever investigated them at all! Documents that if forged, LIBEL the commander in chief and other former TXANG officers.

Bush's "honorable discharge" is worth a look, a 2d look, a look again and a double take because of the falsifications and anomalies. This is the classic example of hiding chickenshit in plain sight by insisting its chicken salad. This is a "kiss of death" discharge, no one ever wanted George Bush to hang this dishcharge up on the wall and be proud of it (like mine!)

This "honorable discharge" is a very curious thing: it shows that they stripped him of all medals and qualifications and there's a statement there that he did not finish his commitment---unless you think thhat finishing "5 years 4 months and 5 days" of a 6 year commitment. And it shows the fraud and chicanery of his discharge and last 18 mnonths in the military.

Look at the "Qualifications: NONE.." Huh? Whats up with that? Our commander in chief was disharged completely unqualified to do ANYTHING in the military, not even paint rocks white. But he's also listed as "1125D Pilot." This is a HUGE anomaly--like a truckdriver without a drivers license (something else BUsh lost--for DUI

see http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/bushdmv1.html The only president suspended from flying AND driving)
This shows the fraud exactly: Bush was kept listed--and PAID---as a pilot long after he was stripped of his qualifications--as the discharge also shows.
"Qualifications: NONE" is a very definite statement, it an absolute number: zero. Its also in capitals so someone wanted to deinfitely emphasize that Bush was stripped of hiss qualificaations. He DID have them once, now he doesn't.

It also doesn't show ANY medals at all. TAFMS and TAFCS are NOT medals, they stand for Total Accumulated Military/Civilian Service--they're tallies of attendance and should have a colon and a number after them indicating time in category--there's none, indicating either that he had none and theyre saying it or someone whited out the colons and numbers.
But BUsh WAS awarded the Nat Defense Service Medal for 6 months active duty and a pistol qualifications badge--yet these are not listed. This is a REALLY chickenshit record for someone who was supposedly the Pride of the TXANG
So they not only stripped him of ALL qualifications, they stripped him of his meager crop of medals too. Youre looking at the discharge of a man who was stripped of ALL his quaalifications and ALL of his medals---there's no other explanation of it. This is the classic example of hiding things out in plain sight--no one has EVER asked why Bush has NO medals and NO qualifications at all on his discharge.
This is what the Swiftboating was all about--while they were raving about Kerry's medals, not one single person asked why Bush had NO medals at all!! Nobody but me. Mission accomplished Swiftboaters and it was done so well they do it on everyone else with impunity. NObody EVER looks at the actual words in Bush's papers, theyre afraid to. Stripped off all his medals and Qualifications and no one wants to even look at it.


It also says "... Officer has a six year obligation...and has completed 5 years 4 months and 5 days..."
That clearly says Bush didn't finish his commitment, unless you think completing 5 years 4 months and 5 days is the same as completeing a 6 year commitment. This tally itself is falsified: look at his pay records: http://news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/gwbush/gwb72-73milpay-p1.html There's a 6 month, a two month and a one month gap there--these provably "non show" months are counted into the "5 years..." Bush is credited for 9 months in ths statement when he provably wasn't there, making this document provably falsified--thats why he didn't sign it--another HUGE anomaly. Ive showed this discharge to dozens of veterans, there's no justifiable reason why he didn't shw up to sign it and its unheard of. We heard all about Kerry's discharge with the Silver Star with the "V"--we never heard ANYTHING about Bush's discharge other than he had one and it "proved" his honorable service. But they never SHOWED the discharge or explained it, did they?

The biggest scam in history is the Republicons stomping on other peoples honorable military serbvice while George BUsh has the most chickenshit, fraudulent military record in presidential historry. And no one wants to read the words right off the papers.
There's a lot more. Ive probably been too long on this one again. A very frustrating topic to understand, and very complex--its been twisted and distorted by some of the best liars in history---with complete backup from the federal government.
America: youve been HAD!

[exlrrp]

58. A very important item about the CBS memos

Look at the CBS suspension memo: http://news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/gwbush/bushang.html

This represents a document that provably was written by Killian, is supposed to be by law in Bush's files and is MISSING from Bush's files--another reason they scrambleed up his records before releasing them, and why there was no federal investigation of them.

Look at the document posted below: "... Verbal orders from the cmdr on 1 Aug 1972 suspending...Bush...from flying status are confirmed..."
Now, Bush's commander didn't do all this out of his head, the orders were given verbally but there was a paper ccopy of this order--its what this document is confirmiong. If there hadn't been a paper copy of this order, there would be no confirmation. Killian didn't PHONE his order in to HQ for confirmation, he wrote a memo about it and then passed it up the chain of command.

Bush's effective date of suspension was 1 Aug, 1972. From reading the cited statute AFM 35-13 para 2-29m(which the conservatives claim doesn't exist) http://www.glcq.com/regs/35-13_1971.pdf we see that: "...Failure to accomplish a required medical examination disqualifies the officer for flying duty and he will be suspended effective the first day of the month follwing his birth month, citing this paragraph as authority..."
Bush was born in July--So the effective date was 1 Aug 1972--BY STATUTE!

Furthermore: AFM35-13B 2-10 (cited above) says: "...Particular care must be taken to insure that the individual receives flying status orders or knowledge of their contents ON OR BEFORE THE EFFECTIVE DATE..." (emphasis mine) So that rules out Hodges confirmation of Sep 5 1972 as being the original order--its dated 6 weeks after the effective date and in addition doesn't say anything about the commander having given verbal orders. The verbal orders mentioned in the document below had to be mentioned in another document than Hodges--its the one the ARPC is confirming, not Hodges confirmation.
We have two confrimaation documents here but not the document theyre confirming. Another reason that they scrambled Bush's papers before releasing them.
Look at the CBS document: it mentions verbal orders, doesn't it?

Furthermore AFM 35-13 para 2-10 B2 says "...CBPO-SA will insure that the unit personnel record copy which... imposes or revokes a supension....will be acknowledged by the person concerned to indicate time and date of receipt of orders..."
That means that, according to these regulations, there should be a signed acknowlegement of this document in Bush's records--and there's not. What the Bushies try to do is pass off Hodges confirmation as the original order--but its not! CAN'T be! Wrong date! And anyway its not signed by Bush!

"...Officer will comply with AFM 35-13 para 2-10..." That is a direct written order for George BUsh to sign his suspension order (see above) And there's no evidence at all he ever did--ergo, ANOTHER failure to obey a written order.

Now take a look at the CBS memo cited above. That has the verbal orders thing on it. It's also quoting from the right statute as authority. And it also has the right DATE on it. In addition, all the other information is correct--they DID get someone else to fly BUsh's jet after he walked away from it. George Bush's airplane didn't go away when george Bush did, nor his job slot either.
Bush and his people got this knocked out only unofficially

So the CBS memo represents a document that HAD to be written by Killian and delivered on Aug 1st, that WAS dated on the appropriate day, that DID include all the information. And is MISSING from Bush's files when it is required by regulation to be there.
AMrian KNox also said she had written this exact document bt that thsi one wasn't it--OK so where's the REAL one then? (She also never said HOW this was different)
And all the Republicans said was that they didn't like the fonts/spacing/formats and it all went away. Bush never denied this is the suspension order that Killian DID deliver to him on that day according to confirmation documents nor did his aides--they just had their peasants with pitchforks and internet MaauMaus "cast doubt" on it.

George BUsh knows whether this is the order that Killian read to him on August 1st (according to confirmation documennts)---he HAS to know. And George Bush never said a thing and it all went away so well, that the Republicons can slam other people's honorable military records with complete impunity. Mission Accomplished, Swiftboat liars

[tavalon]

50. Childish, spoiled rotten jackass

or pugnacious. Same thing.

[scarface2004]

21. the constitution....

is just a goddam piece of paper i will wipe alberto's ass with!!! bush screamed at tony snow as he contracted into a fetal position!

[Diane R]

22. Could we please put some parents in charge of the white house? They're a bunch of defiant teenagers

[Jacobin]

23. Here's something to think about, though

This originated with another DUer, whose name I forget.

It may be that if another AG is appointed, that when he gets into office he will find so many bodies hidden (torture, wiretapping and who knows what other gawdawful mess) that Bush simply cannot afford to have someone else in that position,..a person who would almost have to be beyond reproach to clean up this mess.

GoneZales may be the linchpin that brings this whole criminal administration down if/when he goes.

I'm thinking Smirky is between a rock and a hard place on this one

[Lord Balto]

25. No...

He's between impeachment and Rumania, Christmas, 1989.

[Lord Balto]

24. "This ain't no technological breakdown"

"This is the road to Hell."

[tanyev]

45. Oh, I love that song. I love that entire CD!

Welcome to DU. :hi:

[sellitman]

27. Watching this "decider" fall apart is rich.

I hope the "decider" decides to keep up the ‘Pugnacious’ front as long as he can. This will be more entertaining than watching Nixon go down.

[StefanX]

28. Bush is "pugnacious" -- Gonzales has a "constuency of one"

It's almost funny, if it wasn't so sad.

What a spoiled little brat/dauphin. Surrounded by his nannies and consiglieris -- Harriet Meirs, Gonzales, Condi Rice, Karen Hughes, Rove.

The boy in the bubble is throwing a tantrum.

When is a grownup going to stand up and sweep this petulant little "pugnacious" loser off our national stage?

I am so fucking tired of him puffing himself up and stamping his feet.

[Pacifist Patriot]

30. This is a recognizable pattern. Who exactly would be surprised....

Bush would be in denial? His consciousness isn't even in our plane of existance.

[19jet54]

32. Deja Vu...

Nixon had these same feelings & we all know how that one turned out?
1) War
2) Ego
3) Illegal Activity
4) Cover Up
5) Lying to Congress
6) Angry Congress
7) "A House of Cards built on lies will soon fall" - Sen Byrd
8) Run & Hide

We can only hope :popcorn: this shows ending is a good one!

[The Wizard]

37. The difference

Nixon was smart and knew the American people had enough. Bush will have to be taken away in chains, ranting about Saddam did it too, or but but but Clinton, or heh heh heh I'm the Decider. We deserve better than a babbling idiot leading a cabal of treasury looters.

[tinfoilinfor2005]

43. Clever post.

But I don't care how he goes. Just so he goes. x(

[JohnnyRingo]

33. Then it's time to resign

If Buxh was half as loyal to his country as he is to his friends and party, he wouldn't be in this situation.

[tomp]

41. keep him, fire him--win/win for us.

it's the prosecution that i'm waitng for.

[scavok]

44. Gonzales resigning is a foregone conclusion

Bushes big problem is that his replacement must get through a Democratic Senate. The only way that is going to happen is if the nominees are Patrick Fitzgerald or Carol Lam.

Let the nominations begin! :popcorn:

[shain from kane]

46. It's time for a Saturday Night Massacre. Rove and Gonzales. And guess what? It's Saturday.

[Botany]

47. "We" have Gonzales lying on tape to the U.S. Congress

"We" have the e mails showing manipulation of the US Attorneys
"We" have the proof that he stopped investigations
"We" are about to see that Gonzo used the NSA to spy
on political "enemies."
"We" have the proof that Gonzo used the patriot act, not
to fight terrorism but to increase power for bush.

So please Mr. (unelected) President hang in there with your boy
because he will help take you down too.

[bluedog]

49. had to look that word up...

–adjective inclined to quarrel or fight readily; quarrelsome; belligerent; combative.

yes......that fits bush to the letter.....

[alfredo]

52. More he struggles, the deeper the hook sinks.

[IWantAChange]

53. Pugnacious - bellicose - I'd suggest totally out of touch with reality.

Name something that the majority of the American public would agree on that Chimpy has done RIGHT in the last 3-4 years????

[Jennicut]

54. Im sorry, but my 2 1/2 year old is more mature than Chimp

At least she says she sorry when she does something wrong. Chimpy NEVER even apologizes. I think his mental level is in the negatives actually.

[ljm2002]

60. That's perfect!

Let's hope he sticks to his guns.

Because there will be a showdown on this one, no doubt about it.

Mr. Bush is about to find out there are in fact limits to his powers. He has not had to back down for his entire tenure -- geez, look at what happened after our stunning upset in the midterms: he's going ahead with his "surge" regardless, because that's what he wanted to do and he's the "decider". No wonder he thinks he can do as he pleases.

So here's hoping he digs in his heels on Gonzales, those two are a match made in ... Hades. Well matched. Dim bulbs, stubborn, self righteous, political loyalty trumps all, and let us not forget, the mob-like reliance on "omerta". These two were made for each other, let's hope they go down together. I for one will drink a toast when that occurs, and pray that we can fix half the damage they've done.

[treestar]

63. What's the difference between Gonzo and Rummy?

Bush didn't hang on like this for Rummy.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

65. "President Bush is the main force..."

President Bush is the main force...

:rofl:

[DemKR]

66. Get out Gonzo n/t

[cassiepriam]

68. Bush likes to keep the guys who take the heat for him. They are his firewall.

[debbierlus]

70. Typical Bush - no one tells me anything - I am king

I hate him.

[natrat]

74. what do you expect when you have a retarded drunk for a president

[PATRICK]

75. If I thought for sure

the Congress would act suitably I'd encourage Bush to keep the lawbreaker because that opens wide the road to direct impeachment. So does firing the crony protector in a way. It buys Bush more time and keeps the reluctant "impeachers" from having to face that decision immediately. Either way Bush should be finished as a tinpotty dictator.

On top of conducting NO investigation(Plame leak) into a major high crime and putting his seal of approval on the evidenced crimes of Rove and Gonzales, Bush is making himself party to it. Tantrums, loyalty. He can use up that reserve very quickly and "reluctantly" let Gonzo talk him into it. He is still in trouble and very very weakened and demoralized after, but he has to do it.

What worries us all more is the "or else" if that gauntlet is thrown down at this government and every pretends not to notice it too much. More outrage and expressions of shock and force to get him to get rid of Gonzales. But will they start talking of the impeachment that cries out to heaven and all the traditions of law? Some, the usual will. Maybe a few intrepid newbies will waffle and whisper and intimate.

And Bush will depend on and glory in their weakness.

And after ALL this we still have a war to stop. Unfortunately that is Cheney and the left hand of this tyranny. Without impeachment determination against the POTUS or VEEP the inevitability stays.